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2022 MO Senate Seat

2022 MO Senate Seat

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PostMar 08, 2021#1

Well, this is gonna be interesting:

Blunt says he won't run next year: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... b6ec1.html

Could it be in the cards to have both Hawley and Greitens repping us in the senate.

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PostMar 08, 2021#2

I feel Greitens will run.

Kander and McCaskill have declined. Sifton is in and has been for a little while now.

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PostMar 08, 2021#3

This is a 5% chance seat for Dems and 25% if its Greitens....so basically Dems have to do whatever they can to push him to be the GOP nominee. 

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PostMar 08, 2021#4

Would Hawley endorse Greitens after he investigated him when they were AG/Gov? What about Parsons' endorsement? 

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PostMar 08, 2021#5

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I feel Greitens will run.

Kander and McCaskill have declined. Sifton is in and has been for a little while now.
I wonder if Galloway will go for it, as the dem with the most recent/significant election infrastructure to ramp back up. 

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PostMar 08, 2021#6

wabash wrote:
chriss752 wrote:
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I feel Greitens will run.

Kander and McCaskill have declined. Sifton is in and has been for a little while now.
I wonder if Galloway will go for it, as the dem with the most recent/significant election infrastructure to ramp back up. 
She didn’t do too well this past election. I think she’ll be more focused on trying to retain her Auditor seat.

Also, I could see Ann Wagner running on the Republican side.

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PostMar 08, 2021#7

The GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier, political analysts say According to political analysts cited by The Week's Tim O'Donnell, former president Donald Trump's popularity in Blunt's state will give a Trump-endorsed candidate the "inside track" to replace Blunt. https://theweek.com/speedreads/970866/gop-senate-primed-even-trumpier-political-analysts-say

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PostMar 08, 2021#8

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The GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier, political analysts say According to political analysts cited by The Week's Tim O'Donnell, former president Donald Trump's popularity in Blunt's state will give a Trump-endorsed candidate the "inside track" to replace Blunt. https://theweek.com/speedreads/970866/gop-senate-primed-even-trumpier-political-analysts-say
More accurate title would be "Missouri Senate Seat Primed to Get Trumpier", but obviously they want to go with something that sounds more alarmist and national in scope. 

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PostMar 08, 2021#9

Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas is considering running for the position. I'm writing him off now as he has little to no name recognition outside of the KC side of the state.

And regarding  a register to vote push in the urban areas of the state in the hope off making Missouri more competitive (like Georgia), I doubt it will work. It was successful in Georgia because the Atlanta Metro area is far larger (6,020,864 people) than the Missouri side of the St. Louis and Kansas City Metropolitan areas (and these two area's Metro Area numbers on both sides of the state lines total 4,950,995 people). Missouri could get more purple as a result, but it'll still elect a Republican unless the Democratic candidate is willing to spend a huge amount of money and attempt to paint himself/herself as moderate. Warnock and Osoff had the benefit of two unpopular Republican candidates. As such, I see Warnock being vulnerable in the 2022 election, but not completely written off because, once again, the push in the Atlanta area to get voters signed up.

For now, I'm saying the Missouri race is pretty much leaning towards a Republican successor to Roy Blunt unless Democrats can pull off a massive register voter push, get voters excited and fired up, and run a candidate that can grab outstate voters more than the Republican candidate. Even if the candidate is Eric Greitens, in which case the election will be close, I still think Dems will need to push big time. Best Republican candidate in my mind is Ann Wagner (if she decides to run for Senate). Mostly because she did better this past election in the 2nd District than in 2018 and her district will be redrawn, so that could spell the end of her congressional job. So, what I'm saying is that she seems popular in Suburban St. Louis and could win over suburban voters in the KC area. Not to mention she probably has a big amount of money in her campaign account.

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PostMar 08, 2021#10

wabash wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
chris fuller wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
The GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier, political analysts say According to political analysts cited by The Week's Tim O'Donnell, former president Donald Trump's popularity in Blunt's state will give a Trump-endorsed candidate the "inside track" to replace Blunt. https://theweek.com/speedreads/970866/gop-senate-primed-even-trumpier-political-analysts-say
More accurate title would be "Missouri Senate Seat Primed to Get Trumpier", but obviously they want to go with something that sounds more alarmist and national in scope. 
Well, no, they also mentioned the retiring senators in PA, OH, NC and AL in addition to the open MO seat. 

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PostMar 08, 2021#11

Bart Harley Jarvis wrote:
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wabash wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
chris fuller wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
The GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier, political analysts say According to political analysts cited by The Week's Tim O'Donnell, former president Donald Trump's popularity in Blunt's state will give a Trump-endorsed candidate the "inside track" to replace Blunt. https://theweek.com/speedreads/970866/gop-senate-primed-even-trumpier-political-analysts-say
More accurate title would be "Missouri Senate Seat Primed to Get Trumpier", but obviously they want to go with something that sounds more alarmist and national in scope. 
Well, no, they also mentioned the retiring senators in PA, OH, NC and AL in addition to the open MO seat. 
Yep, the article mentions those offhandedly with no analysis of the likelihood of them going to a republican, let alone to a Trump endorsed/selected candidate. Here's the entirety of what they had to say: Democrats aren't hopeless in some of those states, but it seems likely Blunt's seat will stay within the GOP. 

The article is about a single senate seat, not which way any other seats or the Senate as a whole might be going. They went with "GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier" for its clickbait value. 

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PostMar 08, 2021#12

Why does everyone assume a Republican will win Blunt's seat? Missouri has had lots of Democrats win state-wide races. The voters are a fickle lot, and a-year-from-now is forever in politics.

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PostMar 09, 2021#13

framer wrote:
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Why does everyone assume a Republican will win Blunt's seat? Missouri has had lots of Democrats win state-wide races. The voters are a fickle lot, and a-year-from-now is forever in politics.
Along those lines, not having Trump at the top of the ballot is an interesting variable. He inspired a lot of people to go to the polls, garnering almost 250,000 more votes than any other presidential candidate in Missouri ever (other than himself). How much of that engagement is going to stick? And, to db's point above, even with MO's pronounced shift to the right, the fact that it already has one hardcore stop-at-nothing Trump crusader senator could limit the appetite for a second. 

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PostMar 09, 2021#14

framer wrote:
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Why does everyone assume a Republican will win Blunt's seat? Missouri has had lots of Democrats win state-wide races. The voters are a fickle lot, and a-year-from-now is forever in politics.
Well we aren’t exactly Arizona or GA when it comes to demographic shifts.

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PostMar 09, 2021#15

please. if a democrat wins i'll eat my cardinals cap. look at the level of insanity coming out of MOLeg regarding, for example, abortion and guns. never gonna happen. MO is an insane asylum.

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PostMar 09, 2021#16

^I won't say it's likely, but statewide races have traditionally been much more competitive than local races, usually decided by margins well under ten points and they've gone both ways. In 2016, a year Trump carried Missouri by eighteen points, Kander came within three points of ousting blunt and Greitens upset Koster by about five and a half. 2020 was a bloodbath, but it's still a little early to say the earth has permanently shifted. Five years ago we had a democratic governor, attorney general, secretary of state, and senator. Turnout in St. Louis has been abysmal the last couple of cycles. I'd guess that's a big part of the problem. Traditionally MO Democrats seeking statewide office have run as centrists seeking the "Missourah" vote. (And I mean that quite literally. You can hear it in their ads. Both parties quite consciously pronounce the name of the state in precise opposition to their base.) What we need is someone who can turn out the vote in St. Louis and Kansas City. Someone like Cori Bush or Emanuel Cleaver might be just what the doctor ordered. Get someone who campaigns to the cities the way the Republicans campaign to their base and maybe we have a fighting chance.

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PostMar 09, 2021#17

wabash wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
Bart Harley Jarvis wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
wabash wrote:
Mar 08, 2021
More accurate title would be "Missouri Senate Seat Primed to Get Trumpier", but obviously they want to go with something that sounds more alarmist and national in scope. 
Well, no, they also mentioned the retiring senators in PA, OH, NC and AL in addition to the open MO seat. 
Yep, the article mentions those offhandedly with no analysis of the likelihood of them going to a republican, let alone to a Trump endorsed/selected candidate. Here's the entirety of what they had to say: Democrats aren't hopeless in some of those states, but it seems likely Blunt's seat will stay within the GOP. 

The article is about a single senate seat, not which way any other seats or the Senate as a whole might be going. They went with "GOP Senate is primed to get even Trumpier" for its clickbait value. 
As you said, the article is about one senate seat in MO, so it makes sense that it wouldn't offer analysis on other sates.  Further, if one non-Trumpy GOP senator (Blunt) retires in a state that's pro-Trump, their take that the entire senate could get 2% more Trumpy is accurate.   

(I wouldn't have clicked on the article if you hadn't whined about the headline being click-bait)

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PostMar 09, 2021#18

urban_dilettante wrote:
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please. if a democrat wins i'll eat my cardinals cap. look at the level of insanity coming out of MOLeg regarding, for example, abortion and guns. never gonna happen. MO is an insane asylum.
Agree with this.

Still, I wouldn't completely exclude the power of urban area organizing. Inspired by Chris' post, I went to check how much of the population in the STL and KC metro are actually on the MO side. That's 2.1 million for STL and 1.2 million for KC. Together, that's more than half of the state's population (55% to be exact).

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PostMar 09, 2021#19

kipfilet wrote:
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urban_dilettante wrote:
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please. if a democrat wins i'll eat my cardinals cap. look at the level of insanity coming out of MOLeg regarding, for example, abortion and guns. never gonna happen. MO is an insane asylum.
Agree with this.

Still, I wouldn't completely exclude the power of urban area organizing. Inspired by Chris' post, I went to check how much of the population in the STL and KC metro are actually on the MO side. That's 2.1 million for STL and 1.2 million for KC. Together, that's more than half of the state's population (55% to be exact).
But of that 55%, it's maybe a 60-40 split of Dem v Rep? (completely guessing)  I'd guess the other 45 is probably closer to a 70/30 split the other way?

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PostMar 09, 2021#20

^Yes, agree, and that is why I do not 100% disagree with what Chris originally posted, but I do not 100% agree either. 

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PostMar 10, 2021#21

Lucas Kunce, a veteran from Kansas City, has launched his campaign after setting up an exploratory committee in January.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lucaskuncemo
Website: https://lucaskunce.com

On the Republican side, Jay Ashcroft is expected to launch his bid soon. Eric Schmitt and Jason Smith are also considering it. Plus, Eric Greitens...

PostMar 11, 2021#22

Ashcroft declined.

Schmitt is reportedly in.

PostMar 22, 2021#23

Greitens is in.

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PostMar 22, 2021#24

Democrats in Missouri catch the first break in the #MOSen race, a rapist enters the race on the gop side.

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PostMar 22, 2021#25

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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Democrats in Missouri catch the first break in the #MOSen race, a rapist enters the race on the gop side.
I want a Kunce vs. Greitens election fight. Both served in the military in some form. And both seem to want to be a "populist" in their respective parties. If that match up happens, crack out the popcorn.

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