^I disagree, but dat's cool bro.
Stltoday - St. Charles County authorities push to crack down on surging auto thefts
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... a4260.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... a4260.html
Baltimore is starting a computerized gun-tracking program to try to cut down on illegal gun sales. Might be worth looking into.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimores-p ... 20350.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimores-p ... 20350.html
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SLMPD normally has previous months crime data within 4-5 days after the month is over and we still dont even have January's.
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Serious question - would the State of Missouri even allow this to be implemented? I could easily see second amendment supporters and the State legislature quickly blocking this in the name of gun owner's rights.framer wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2021Baltimore is starting a computerized gun-tracking program to try to cut down on illegal gun sales. Might be worth looking into.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimores-p ... 20350.html
Never ever on God's green earth would the MO General Assembly ever approve something like this. Ever. When it comes to guns and gun crime, we must accept that the State will not help us and at-best will do no further harm. This is the ridiculous sh*t they're up to this year. It will only get worse as the years roll by and rural and suburban MO grows ever more reactionary.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Mar 04, 2021Serious question - would the State of Missouri even allow this to be implemented? I could easily see second amendment supporters and the State legislature quickly blocking this in the name of gun owner's rights.framer wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2021Baltimore is starting a computerized gun-tracking program to try to cut down on illegal gun sales. Might be worth looking into.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimores-p ... 20350.html
Yeah, that's what I thought. No way anything like this would ever fly in Missourah.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Mar 04, 2021Serious question - would the State of Missouri even allow this to be implemented? I could easily see second amendment supporters and the State legislature quickly blocking this in the name of gun owner's rights.framer wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2021Baltimore is starting a computerized gun-tracking program to try to cut down on illegal gun sales. Might be worth looking into.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimores-p ... 20350.html
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if anyone is feeling charitable, i'd be interested to read this:
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/mailbag/lack-of-consequences-creates-traffic-violation-epidemic/article_8dab3d75-6543-58ed-a0da-f5fc3160e875.html
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/mailbag/lack-of-consequences-creates-traffic-violation-epidemic/article_8dab3d75-6543-58ed-a0da-f5fc3160e875.html
Regarding the editorial “Traffic deaths rose during the pandemic as empty streets invited lawlessness” (March 1): While the seemingly daily homicides certainly demand priority, the flagrant flaunting of lesser laws without consequence seems to be epidemic and reinforces the perception that not only can the city not take steps to enforce safety rules, but that it doesn’t care.
Driving on Interstate 70 within the city limits almost deserves hazard pay, as the number of reckless drivers topping 80, 90 and 100 miles per hour and darting in and out of traffic endangers everyone. And the overwhelming numbers of expired license plates is a disgrace. It’s like the scofflaws have adopted the philosophy: The law be damned.
I can understand how this behavior might create an environment where criminals rule without fear of consequences. A single police car perennially assigned on the highway would have a field day with reckless drivers and violators, and might even cause a few to slow down and update their registration. When the Missouri Highway Patrol augmented the city for this enforcement in the past, it had a noticeable effect in improving behavior. Why not repeat that effort?
Michael Harvey • O’Fallon, Ill.
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Yeah, 70 has been terrible for years now. Our driver at my last job absolutely hated driving 70 to do pickups in the Near North Riverfront - at least once a week he'd complain about nearly getting run off the road there, as if people take personal offense at you for going too slowly even though you're already going 75. Long term I suppose the solution is as much highway removal as possible, but enforcement definitely needs to be stepped up regardless.
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^ i've had drivers weave past me at speeds > 100 mph in the depressed section downtown. have never experienced such a thing anywhere else.
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The Year of Driving Less—but More Dangerously
Total traffic deaths fell during pandemic lockdowns. But fatalities per mile traveled rose, due to faster driving, fewer cops, and more drug use. https://www.wired.com/story/year-drivin ... ngerously/
Total traffic deaths fell during pandemic lockdowns. But fatalities per mile traveled rose, due to faster driving, fewer cops, and more drug use. https://www.wired.com/story/year-drivin ... ngerously/
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Driving an unregistered vehicle should be a MUCH bigger deal than it apparently is in StL.
I think a legit estimate for completely unregistered or expired vehicles has to be ~15% at this point.
Starting to make me feel like a real chump for actually obeying the laws.
I think a legit estimate for completely unregistered or expired vehicles has to be ~15% at this point.
Starting to make me feel like a real chump for actually obeying the laws.
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^ state rep Donna Baringer had tried for years to fix this by bringing Missouri in line with other states that allow the sales tax to be rolled into the car loan. That way the state (MoDOT gets most of the state cut) and locality get their money right away.
Many buyers just don’t think about that on their new $25,000 car there is a another $2,056 due on the 30th day
Many buyers just don’t think about that on their new $25,000 car there is a another $2,056 due on the 30th day
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^Don't know why it can't be rolled into a loan either, but if not, then you don't get to drive a vehicle.
Ignorance isn't a defense, etc. etc.
Ignorance isn't a defense, etc. etc.
Obviously it varies by location, but I'd guess it's way higher than 15% that lack a valid Missouri plate.
Between expired temp tags, expired stickers and cars registered in some other state (or even Canada!) for years, it's gotta be like a third to a half downtown that lack proper tags.
Between expired temp tags, expired stickers and cars registered in some other state (or even Canada!) for years, it's gotta be like a third to a half downtown that lack proper tags.
I feel like an idiot for having current tags.eee123 wrote: ↑Mar 10, 2021Obviously it varies by location, but I'd guess it's way higher than 15% that lack a valid Missouri plate.
Between expired temp tags, expired stickers and cars registered in some other state (or even Canada!) for years, it's gotta be like a third to a half downtown that lack proper tags.
I don't know about the 1/3rd number: but if you walk a street in downtown and glance at plates on cars parked at the curb: the number of temp tags, 2018-2020 tags or Illinois plated vehicles is amazing.
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Missouri state law does not allow itnewstl2020 wrote: ↑Mar 10, 2021^Don't know why it can't be rolled into a loan either, but if not, then you don't get to drive a vehicle.
Ignorance isn't a defense, etc. etc.
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Got that. Statement should have been "Don't why know the state wouldn't allow..."
But, regardless of state laws, if you cannot adhere to said state's laws, you don't get to drive a vehicle.
Unless you are in St. Louis, apparently. Then feel free to commit every traffic violation known to man in the span of one city block while honking at everyone else and flipping everyone off. Cool system we've got going on lately around here.
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Glad to see an arrest was made, but horrible incident / murder last month in Lindenwood Park.
6pm, the deceased is walking to his mailbox and his killer asks for directions, on a dead-end street, and is shot in the head. No connection. No reason. Murdered in cold blood.
KMOV link
6pm, the deceased is walking to his mailbox and his killer asks for directions, on a dead-end street, and is shot in the head. No connection. No reason. Murdered in cold blood.
KMOV link
I don't think it's a direct law that says that, but that the systems and paperwork aren't there. The problem is Missouri doesn't want to spend the $70 million it would take to implement a system that would allow sales tax to be collected at dealerships.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... f7435.html
One previous attempt to avoid lapses in paying that tax never got off the ground. State Rep. Donna Baringer, D-St. Louis, cited a law that would have allowed a vehicle’s sales tax to be paid at purchase through a pilot program in 2012 in which the revenue department would have chosen a car dealership to test the idea.
The program never happened. Baringer said she was told the cost to make the department’s computer system able to enact such a program would be $70 million.
“We should have started in 2012 collecting sales tax,” she said. “It was a pilot program to see what it would take to do this statewide. We don’t know what stands before us because it didn’t take place.”
This year, Baringer has another bill before the Legislature that she hopes will curtail the use of expired plates and educate car buyers.
If passed, it would require a check for the amount of the sales tax be made out to the Missouri Department of Revenue when sales tax is rolled into a car loan. Now, she said that check goes to the vehicle’s buyer, who can spend it elsewhere.
It also would require a vehicle buyer to sign a waiver that all applicable sales taxes are due within 30 days of the purchase and that it is illegal to drive a vehicle in Missouri without properly insuring the vehicle — not submitting the tax within 30 days would result in a fine of $25 every 30 days, or a maximum fine of $200.
“We need to make sure everyone understands this is how much money it will cost you to get into the car — and not just the car, but the sales tax and insurance,” Baringer said.
She said she doesn’t want to penalize people who don’t know about those costs, but stressed the sales tax on vehicle purchases helps pay for needed taxpayer-funded transportation services.
I'm just shocked that at this point the dealerships haven't offer to pony up some of that $70 million, or at least push harder on the legislature? How much would their sales improve if people knew they could spread the sales tax over the length of the loan instead of having to write a check for thousand of dollars at the DMV?