Melbourne Jesuit Hall 3601 Lindell

chaifetz10 · PostApr 27, 2010#12010-04-27T22:50+00:00

If anyone has driven by the corner of Lindell and Grand lately, you'd have noticed that there is some scaffolding and fencing on the south side of Jesuit Hall.

SLU has not released anything about this, and I'm a little uncertain if the building is actually owned by SLU or not...the building itself says Saint Louis University on it, yet all the maps provided on the facilities website do not show it as part of the University. So that's a little confusing, but anyways, there is some renovation going on inside. So far it's only up to the 3rd floor, but I would be curious if this building may become more student housing???

At the current moment, Jesuit Hall is home to the priests and clergy at the University (minus Biondi who has a house on the west end of campus).

wheelfru · PostJun 25, 2010#22010-06-25T20:56+00:00

I often hear references to Biondi's house, but the only spot on the west end of campus I can think of is the house attached to Boileau. Is that where he lives?

steve · PostJun 25, 2010#32010-06-25T21:00+00:00

I think they call it "Cartier Hall." It's the last building on the western end of the West Pine mall, on the south side, across from the parking lot next to DeMatt.

bk18 · PostJun 28, 2010#42010-06-28T07:55+00:00

Yeah its the one attached to boileau

kerchoff · PostOct 29, 2010#52010-10-29T15:46+00:00

Any word. Is this building being restored, or becoming housing?

bills10 · PostOct 31, 2010#62010-10-31T04:53+00:00

I believe they were just doing exterior restorations on the building. It is already filled with our beloved St. Louis Jesuits, as well as various floors rented out by Dominicans, etc.

the central scrutinizer · PostOct 31, 2010#72010-10-31T17:23+00:00

bills10 wrote:I believe they were just doing exterior restorations on the building. It is already filled with our beloved St. Louis Jesuits, as well as various floors rented out by Dominicans, etc.

Does One Tough Dominican live there?

kerchoff · PostNov 01, 2010#82010-11-01T13:31+00:00

Are the renovations a visual or historic improvement?

quincunx · PostJan 08, 2021#92021-01-08T23:34+00:00

Nextstl - Looks like Jesuit Hall will get a makeover

https://nextstl.com/2021/01/jesuit-hall ... -makeover/

GoHarvOrGoHome · PostJan 08, 2021#102021-01-08T23:54+00:00

Hopefully they activate the storefronts. No excuse at that corner.

gone corporate · PostJan 20, 2021#112021-01-20T21:36+00:00

Post-Dispatch: Company partnering with NAACP chief to buy, rehab Jesuit Hall

- Neighborhood Properties LLC (Clayton) buying Jesuit Hall for $6.5MM
- Gut rehab into 130 apartments for students
- Second Phase: New 14-story tower going up on parking lot next door, will be home to another 187 apartments
- Also: Two parking garages being built
- Total development costs: $80MM
- Seeking 10 years of 95% tax abatement (currently is tax-exempt)
- The building is home to current and retired Jesuit priests, who will stay in the building another 18 months or so as their new digs are set up. The building's about half occupied today.
- Adolphus Pruitt, STL NAACP President, attended announcement in personal capacity.

RockChalkSTL · PostJan 20, 2021#122021-01-20T21:42+00:00

A new 14-story apartment tower in Midtown sounds cool to me.

The part that worries me is not one, but two new parking garages.

beer city · PostJan 20, 2021#132021-01-20T22:04+00:00

gone corporate wrote: ↑
Jan 20, 2021
Post-Dispatch: Company partnering with NAACP chief to buy, rehab Jesuit Hall

- Neighborhood Properties LLC (Clayton) buying Jesuit Hall for $6.5MM
- Gut rehab into 130 apartments for students
- Second Phase: New 14-story tower going up on parking lot next door, will be home to another 187 apartments
- Also: Two parking garages being built
- Total development costs: $80MM
- Seeking 10 years of 95% tax abatement (currently is tax-exempt)
- The building is home to current and retired Jesuit priests, who will stay in the building another 18 months or so as their new digs are set up. The building's about half occupied today.
- Adolphus Pruitt, STL NAACP President, attended announcement in personal capacity.

Did they specify Grand empty lot to the north on Lindel empty lot to the west? - I imagine (and hope) Grand

chriss752 · PostJan 20, 2021#142021-01-20T22:15+00:00

This is good and one of a few things planned in the neighborhood. Although $80 million seems awfully cheap.

gone corporate · PostJan 20, 2021#152021-01-20T22:29+00:00

Beer City: The article said "the adjacent parking lot". Not sure how that falls on the compass.

Update: Biz Journal Article on the redevelopment, no paywall.

chriss752 · PostJan 20, 2021#162021-01-20T22:53+00:00

gone corporate wrote: ↑
Jan 20, 2021
Beer City: The article said "the adjacent parking lot". Not sure how that falls on the compass.

Update: Biz Journal Article on the redevelopment, no paywall.

Now this doesn’t make me sure that this 14 floor tower will happen. October 2022 it could start and rise alongside the renovation of Jesuit Hall. Or it could start in 2024. Sketchy. Seems like one of those things for developers to get incentives by promising big things and never delivering (much like Centene).

That stuff, in addition to the $80 Million price tag for everything planned, just seems off. Hopefully I’m wrong and we see the tower.

quincunx · PostJan 20, 2021#172021-01-20T23:13+00:00

I'd think the new building would be on Grand at Olive since it's the bigger plot
I'd wager 4 or 5 levels of parking.

300 x $20,000 = $6M
$74M / 317 apts = $233k each
$74M / 407 apts = $181k each

urbanitas · PostJan 21, 2021#182021-01-21T00:40+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Jan 20, 2021
gone corporate wrote: ↑
Jan 20, 2021
Beer City: The article said "the adjacent parking lot". Not sure how that falls on the compass.

Update: Biz Journal Article on the redevelopment, no paywall.
Now this doesn’t make me sure that this 14 floor tower will happen. October 2022 it could start and rise alongside the renovation of Jesuit Hall. Or it could start in 2024. Sketchy. Seems like one of those things for developers to get incentives by promising big things and never delivering (much like Centene).

That stuff, in addition to the $80 Million price tag for everything planned, just seems off. Hopefully I’m wrong and we see the tower.

Yeah...not very familiar with this developer, but I don't think they have done anything remotely close to this scale.

framer · PostJan 21, 2021#192021-01-21T01:53+00:00

For reference:

chriss752 · PostJan 21, 2021#202021-01-21T07:11+00:00

Sent my drone up here. If the 14-story building happens, it will make a nice impact as seen in the bottom two pictures. Although, I doubt it will be taller than Jesuit Hall as Jesuit is 15 floors as-is. I do think the 14-story building will go along Grand as the parking lot is bigger. As for two parking garages, it's going to be a squeeze.

bwcrow1s · PostJan 21, 2021#212021-01-21T13:35+00:00

So, with the skepticism, is the thought process that they're dangling another new building here in order to get the City to sign off on the tax abatement and then decide against the additional building? Coupled with the fact that they haven't done that much development?

I get the skepticism. My worst fear is that they end up putting a parking garage on Grand since it's larger. But I think a new building on that corner would be awesome. Is that existing parking garage public? How on earth are they going to fit two parking garages here too? Maybe a podium setup? Logically, I don't know where two garages fit. So that right there might be enough to be skeptical.

quincunx · PostJan 21, 2021#222021-01-21T14:10+00:00

I'd guess the new building is 9-10 stories on top of 4-5 of parking.
Plenty of rehabs have gotten tax abatement without teasing a new building.

wabash · PostJan 21, 2021#232021-01-21T14:30+00:00

bwcrow1s wrote: ↑
Jan 21, 2021
How on earth are they going to fit two parking garages here too? Maybe a podium setup? Logically, I don't know where two garages fit.

Agree. It would be hard to fit two parking garages next to the building, particularly because of the close proximity of the giant 1/2 block long, 570 space parking garage, which is directly across Olive from another parking garage, which is a 1/2 block from a new 5 story, 600+ space parking garage.

Dear Lord.

billikens&bricks · PostJan 21, 2021#242021-01-21T14:40+00:00

wabash wrote: ↑
Jan 21, 2021
bwcrow1s wrote: ↑
Jan 21, 2021
How on earth are they going to fit two parking garages here too? Maybe a podium setup? Logically, I don't know where two garages fit.
Agree. It would be hard to fit two parking garages next to the building, particularly because of the close proximity of the giant 1/2 block long, 570 space parking garage, which is directly across Olive from another parking garage, which is a 1/2 block from a new 5 story, 600+ space parking garage.

Dear Lord.

Yep. I had the exact same thought. I lived and worked in this area for years and rarely saw the Scottish Rite garage full - even on show nights at the Fox.

Does anyone know where the Jesuits are moving? The article in the Post mentions new residences for the Jesuits that will be ready in 18 months. I'm a little surprised we haven't heard about that project already. Maybe along Laclede where houses were recently demolished?

GoHarvOrGoHome · PostJan 21, 2021#252021-01-21T14:57+00:00

Wish we didn't have to wait 18 months just to start. I for one am thrilled that we will get finally get some retail on this block of Grand to help connect Grand Center to the SLU campus. Hopefully a developer can beat these guys to the punch by developing the other side of the street first