$8 billion seems high for planned & underway in STL. Would make more sense if that’s cumulative.
In some ways, we already are. But in all honestly, it's hard to compare our cities. We both go at things with our own paces. So while some may view the KC developments as "beating STL" and make us jealous, just know that there are people in KC who look at us and think the same thing.jay23 wrote: ↑Jan 06, 2021Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.
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I don’t get the bickering about how much development is going on in the city of St Louis. Whether it’s 750 million or 12 billion there’s a good sizable chunk of solid investments going on within the city limits with more to come. We should be celebrating both cities progress
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Mid 2018 to now... 8 billion in the city (mainly central cooridor) alone. 2021 already had 1 billion permits issued.Source or timeline for that number?
STL BUSINESS JOURNAL:
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ash-u.html
KMOV NEWS:
https://www.kmov.com/news/nearly-8-bill ... 40e16.html
INVESTMENT MAGAZINE:
https://globalinvestmentsincorporated.c ... velopment/
NEXTSTL says 2021 already had another 1 Billion building permits from last year for this year's new projects.
https://nextstl.com/2021/01/over-1-bill ... d-in-2020/
It’s not really a pissing match. The $8 Billion figure was raised. Myself and another user were intrigued and wanted to know. I wanted to show what was planned. The process goes on.sc4mayor wrote:This thread is so dumb.
Enough already with these stupid pissing matches.
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That $8 billion figure is surely higher now.
The MLS2STL team kept touting that number during the sales pitch for MLS. The sheer number of projects planned or in progress in St. Louis City since that announcement, including the MLS stadium, is staggering.
I think both cities are gaining momentum. There's a lot to be excited about in Missouri right now. And then there's some stuff to not be excited about, but we'll leave that alone.
The MLS2STL team kept touting that number during the sales pitch for MLS. The sheer number of projects planned or in progress in St. Louis City since that announcement, including the MLS stadium, is staggering.
I think both cities are gaining momentum. There's a lot to be excited about in Missouri right now. And then there's some stuff to not be excited about, but we'll leave that alone.
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STL's construction jobs have returned essentially back to a year ago, better than most cities around country that still show significant drop compared to a year ago...
KC shows an unusual ~7% increase in construction jobs recently compared to a year ago, so maybe 'hot' at the moment by that measure. Top 20 in construction starts too first half of 2020.
edit: The BLS construction jobs include home carpenters/electricians engaged in repairs/rehabs, which have increased during COVID, so construction starts probably better indicator of what's happening at commercial level.
KC shows an unusual ~7% increase in construction jobs recently compared to a year ago, so maybe 'hot' at the moment by that measure. Top 20 in construction starts too first half of 2020.
edit: The BLS construction jobs include home carpenters/electricians engaged in repairs/rehabs, which have increased during COVID, so construction starts probably better indicator of what's happening at commercial level.
That might have been a reference to this article/listicle from $2018? (EDIT - changing link to the article referred to in the B-J slideshow): Who knew: $8 billion in projects from Arch to Wash U
And FTR I'm genuinely happy to see all of the development in KC as well - they certainly have many enviable projects in the works or recently completed.
We can both have nice things.
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We can both have nice things.
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U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine L. Chao Announces $174 Million Grant Agreement to Expand Kansas City, Missouri, Streetcar Service
https://www.transit.dot.gov/about/news/ ... ent-expand
https://www.transit.dot.gov/about/news/ ... ent-expand
The full grant was announced in December or late November. This announcement means that all documents and the congressional review have been completed.walker wrote:^ Final act?
^ Pretty sure he’s talking about Elaine Chao’s final act since she’s resigning from Trump’s cabinet lol...
Screenshots from today's meeting regarding Milhaus's plans for "The Tracks", an apartment building in the Crossroads next door to the Freight House on 22nd Street. 3D Development was originally behind this project, but sold it off to Milhaus. Milhaus has developed a few projects in KC to date. Those being the Gallerie, Artistry, and Marcato with planning underway for a smaller-scale, 52-unit development at 31st and Troost on a KCATA owned lot. Helix Architecture is the architect on this project.
The hope is to begin construction before the end of the year. Recently, many geotechnical drills were on site collecting data.
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The hope is to begin construction before the end of the year. Recently, many geotechnical drills were on site collecting data.
Yay! for more ground floor walk up units. City Club did a great job on their rendition. I’m also excited to see LuxLiving’s proposed walk ups in Westport.
I've never been more proud with the level of development/investment/renovation I'm seeing - not only in St. Louis City - but the entire region.
I mean in years and decades.
There used to be consistent "crickets" in the region. There were times development was slow and timid.
There's a new crowd of progressive developers in the region.
Although there's still a lot of work to do - in the city - the city seems to be streaming more steadily with projects.
It seems like major projects be announced regularly.
Further, I agree that STL and KC have different development priorities for their inner cities.
Their political as well as governmental dynamics and boundaries are vastly differently.
Overall, I am happy for all of the development happening in Missouri.
The more the better, Change will help the state become more progressive.
I mean in years and decades.
There used to be consistent "crickets" in the region. There were times development was slow and timid.
There's a new crowd of progressive developers in the region.
Although there's still a lot of work to do - in the city - the city seems to be streaming more steadily with projects.
It seems like major projects be announced regularly.
Further, I agree that STL and KC have different development priorities for their inner cities.
Their political as well as governmental dynamics and boundaries are vastly differently.
Overall, I am happy for all of the development happening in Missouri.
The more the better, Change will help the state become more progressive.
A new 12-14 foot pedestrian and bike bridge City Market and Berkley Riverfront has been funded. The project hopes to break ground at the end of the year
https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge ... this-year/
https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge ... this-year/
That'll be a big help. I walked do the Riverfront Park one day and had to walk in the street. Not the smartest move on my part but I didn't know another way to get down there.ldai_phs wrote: ↑Jan 12, 2021A new 12-14 foot pedestrian and bike bridge City Market and Berkley Riverfront has been funded. The project hopes to break ground at the end of the year
https://cityscenekc.com/ped-bike-bridge ... this-year/
The KC Business Journal released more info about Bravacci’s sale of its downtown plot along with a rough rendering of the tower that would have been proposed had covid not crashed the market. There’s been interest in the plot but no serious offers yet. Another day, another prime downtown lot to remain empty for the foreseeable future 
But to be frank, Bravacci’s design looked weak regardless. Hopefully something better comes along. Oh I know! How about a parking garage or a four story affordable apartment building! Sarcasm of course but given Lucas’s proposal to require developers to include affordable units to gain incentives it could remain a patch of asphalt for awhile.
But to be frank, Bravacci’s design looked weak regardless. Hopefully something better comes along. Oh I know! How about a parking garage or a four story affordable apartment building! Sarcasm of course but given Lucas’s proposal to require developers to include affordable units to gain incentives it could remain a patch of asphalt for awhile.
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The building next door was clearly designed to be directly abutted in the future
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^That's weak? I'd love to see that in St. Louis. It's not 100 above the park, maybe, but apart from that it's probably the sexiest proposal I've seen in the state in forever. Since the massive Bottle District pipe dream tower.
I do believe that's the back of KC Power and Light. And yes, it seems clear there was supposed to be something abutting that.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jan 20, 2021The building next door was clearly designed to be directly abutted in the future
So the rendering is of a 38 floor building. A theory is that they originally planned a 38 floor tower and then scaled the building down to the height of a 26 floor one for this rendering. At the proper scale, this project would fill out the lot properly.symphonicpoet wrote:^That's weak? I'd love to see that in St. Louis. It's not 100 above the park, maybe, but apart from that it's probably the sexiest proposal I've seen in the state in forever. Since the massive Bottle District pipe dream tower.