Looks like some kind of Soviet era military installation (minus the teal roofs, of course).
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I spent a week here doing management training many years ago. Folks came from all over the world and they made everyone stay the week in the included hotel even if you lived in St. Louis -- you had homework at night that you had to complete with a group. Kind of intense at first but by the end of the week they lightened up and had big party. One of my most bizarre memories was watching Boeing CEO Phil Condit dancing with our instructors to "Love Shack".dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 26, 2020Boeings massive Leadership Center in Florissant is closing. Part of big workforce reduction move
One other memory of this place was another training session where I was the only one eating lunch outside. Another guy came out and asked if he could join me. Turns out he was a former astronaut who grew up in St. Charles and became head of Boeing technical services company in Houston. Curiously, he and I were both in the first draft lottery. He got a low number and joined the Navy going into Naval Aviation. I got a very high number and went to engineering grad school.
It was a huge place with great food in the large cafeteria, and it had great view of the rivers and St. Charles floodplain.
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Trying to put together a short list of potential buyers. Who you got?
I'd wager no one for whatever their initial asking price is. They should be able to find cost savings by just closing the place.moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2020Trying to put together a short list of potential buyers. Who you got?
I know someone who lives in the subdivision off Shackleford that kind of backs up to the property. It's farm land between/as a buffer. They have a big problem with poachers and people hunting that area when they shouldn't.
Boeing's St. Louis unit wins weapons contract worth up to $2.2B
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 2-2-b.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 2-2-b.html
The U.S. Air Force awarded Boeing Co. a five-year contract to produce small diameter bombs (SDMs) at its facility in St. Charles.
Under the so-called "indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity" contract, the government can make purchases up to $2.2 billion at set prices over its five-year term. An initial $307 million order under the contract was finalized this week, according to a spokesman.
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This is cake time for Dept of defense contractors. You get end of fiscal year “spend what we got left” contracts and then new fiscal year starting Oct1. We usually get 90% of our work this week.
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^The Polish Air Force was out at Lambert the other day. And there was or is a Boeing executive 737 there too. Have to wonder what they're trying to sell in Poland. Maybe those foreign contracts on the T-7 Red Hawk are starting to pan out? They were talking about selling a fighter variant to the overseas market. Or maybe they're looking to sell more F-15s. Or drones. Anyway . . . whatever it was, it was interesting seeing an arrival direct from Warsaw.
Boeing is adding another assembly line at 6161 Aviation Drive in North County. $45 million, roughly 30,000 square feet, will include some new jobs.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 9#cxrecs_s
In addition to a potential expansion at MidAmerica and the recent $70 million expansion in St. Charles...id say things are looking good locally.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 9#cxrecs_s
In addition to a potential expansion at MidAmerica and the recent $70 million expansion in St. Charles...id say things are looking good locally.
Boeing is killing it in Defense and getting killed commercially.
Boeing's revived F-15 program to deliver first U.S. order in decades
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... d33d9.html
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... d33d9.html
Six months after winning the first order of new F-15 fighter jets from the U.S. Air Force in nearly 20 years, Boeing’s modernized version of an aircraft introduced a half-century ago took off from St. Louis Lambert International Airport earlier this month.
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In July, the Air Force awarded its first contract for the updated fighter, a $1.2 billion contract for eight jets. The budget Congress passed in December included funding for an additional 12, and U.S. military plans call for as many as 144 in coming years.
“That certainly keeps the line healthy and producing until the end of the decade,” Kumar said.
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Boeing has boosted employment on the F-15 line to about 1,500 direct workers, Kumar said, up from about 1,100 two years ago, and adding about 100 in the last few months alone, as it ramps up to begin filling the U.S. Air Force order. Boeing employs nearly 16,000 people in the region, with about 12,100 in St. Louis County. Others are based out of a missile and munitions plant in St. Charles and a facility in Mascoutah.
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But the future is uncertain.
The Biden administration could change procurement plans. The Air Force could cut orders. There’s talk of a revived F-16 program, built by Lockheed Martin, or even a brand-new sixth-generation fighter, Aboulafia said. And for some members of Congress — especially senators and representatives from Texas, where the F-35 is assembled — the F-15EX is a threat to F-35 orders.
Some Air Force officials say the renewed F-15 program is necessary to replace an aging fighter fleet and is complementary to the F-35 because it can carry a larger payload than the stealth fighter, according to the Congressional Research Service.
They may also see the F-15EX as a program that helps maintain Boeing’s St. Louis production facility as a critical component of the military-industrial base. Only Boeing’s St. Louis defense facility and Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth, Texas, factory assemble fighter jets for the U.S. military.
Some more Boeing news:
Boeing begins assembly of T-7A Red Hawk trainer
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... dd1c2.html
Boeing begins assembly of T-7A Red Hawk trainer
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... dd1c2.html
Boeing announced Tuesday that it has begun assembling the U.S. Air Force's new T-7A Red Hawk training jet, a program expected to keep production lines here busy into the next decade.
In September 2018, Boeing and partner Saab won a hotly contested $9.2 billion contract to build 351 of the jets for the Air Force. Boeing hopes that the jet could eventually be outfitted with weapons and sold to U.S. allies, and the company is in discussions with the U.S. Navy about that branch's potential adoption of the training jet.
Workers at Boeing's north St. Louis County campus will initially assemble about one fighter per month but will ramp up production to as many as four or five per month as the Air Force contract progresses.
Boeing employs nearly 16,000 people in the St. Louis area, with about 12,100 at its St. Louis County defense site.
Big news in the skies over the Metro East today (well, June 4th). I'd love to be that photographer...
Boeing’s unmanned, St. Louis-made tanker makes history with first refueling
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6b484.html
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Boeing’s unmanned, St. Louis-made tanker makes history with first refueling
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6b484.html

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^Awesome accomplishment and advancement. Drone aerial refueling will really increase the capabilities of our air forces to operate with less supply line restraints, i.e. don't have to launch a large tanker aircraft when a tiny drone can do the same thing at a fraction of the costs. Also, we can better see now what Boeing has been doing at Mid America Airport, how it differs from what they do north of Lambert.
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It’s the time of the decade again, Dept of Defense doesn’t want any more stl made Super Hornets and Congress will force them to buy more
“ One of the area’s most important assembly lines is back in a familiar pinch.
For the second time in less than a decade, the U.S. Navy is planning to stop buying new F/A-18 Super Hornets from Boeing at the end of September. If the plans stand, the last new model will roll off the line at Lambert Field in 2024 — not far off in an industry where each plane takes years to build — and leave at least hundreds of Boeing workers in limbo.
Local politicians are already sounding the alarm.”
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 4ccb7.html
“ One of the area’s most important assembly lines is back in a familiar pinch.
For the second time in less than a decade, the U.S. Navy is planning to stop buying new F/A-18 Super Hornets from Boeing at the end of September. If the plans stand, the last new model will roll off the line at Lambert Field in 2024 — not far off in an industry where each plane takes years to build — and leave at least hundreds of Boeing workers in limbo.
Local politicians are already sounding the alarm.”
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 4ccb7.html
^ of note
Loren Thompson, a defense industry consultant and an executive at the Washington-based Lexington Institute, said the Navy may be banking on the Super Hornet’s friends to allow its negotiators to focus on other requests.
“I think the Navy is leaving out proposed items it thinks Congress will add back,” he said.
Loren Thompson, a defense industry consultant and an executive at the Washington-based Lexington Institute, said the Navy may be banking on the Super Hornet’s friends to allow its negotiators to focus on other requests.
“I think the Navy is leaving out proposed items it thinks Congress will add back,” he said.
It's on par for the Post to quote Loren Thompson without mentioning that he's on Boeing's payroll.jshank83 wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2021^ of note
Loren Thompson, a defense industry consultant and an executive at the Washington-based Lexington Institute, said the Navy may be banking on the Super Hornet’s friends to allow its negotiators to focus on other requests.
“I think the Navy is leaving out proposed items it thinks Congress will add back,” he said.
Yes, this is something he actually wrote. https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp ... 46-tanker/I have been following this saga since Boeing was awarded the contract during the Obama years, in part because Boeing is a contributor to my think tank.
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I wonder if Boeing is planning to move more programs across the river to get more support in Congress from the much larger state of Illinois. Air Force and Navy Program leaders in the military may be pushing that too -- they make decisions based on keeping their program sold in Congress.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2021Big news in the skies over the Metro East today (well, June 4th). I'd love to be that photographer...
Boeing’s unmanned, St. Louis-made tanker makes history with first refueling
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6b484.html
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Which programs are already based across the river? Not MQ-25. A majority of MQ-25 employees work in north county, with the exception of some test pilots and engineers. Sure, they fly the MQ-25 in Illinois, but the program isn’t based there.
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They're only over there to use the airport right next to Scott.
^^^ Eh, I doubt it. Boeing already employs close to a thousand folks over in Illinois (and more in St. Chuck, where they build bombs I think). I think North County accounts for around 12 to 13,000 of the close to 16,000 local Boeing jobs. The rest are spread around St. Charles and Illinois. If I’m not mistaken they’re planning a sizable expansion at Scott anyway…though I don’t see it being used to move work over from Missouri.
Seems like a waste to build out new plants just to move some programs a few miles away, in my opinion.
Seems like a waste to build out new plants just to move some programs a few miles away, in my opinion.




