I'm probably the only person here who will have this view but... the TDD piece at the bottom is actually really intriguing. Yes, it's going to be a parking lot right off the bat, but that makes me think there's a long term plan in play that we're not privy to.
I’m also intrigued by this BUT unless it’s a garage with 15+ floors of housing above it...not interested.Laife Fulk wrote:I'm probably the only person here who will have this view but... the TDD piece at the bottom is actually really intriguing. Yes, it's going to be a parking lot right off the bat, but that makes me think there's a long term plan in play that we're not privy to.
Downtown has countless “mixed use” garages. Many of them complete garbage.
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"Limited reuse potential" f you. The whole point of the damn stadium was to enhance the reuse potential of the surroundings!
The very same Christine Ingrassia that supported the Chouteau QuikTrip. The 6th Ward needs someone new that will be a better steward of the built environment. Hopefully ward reduction does the trick.
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and this is why we left. nothing ever changes. nobody learns. same backward sh*t forever.
Which 1) makes it stranger that she's providing an explanation for the demolition and 2) doesn't prevent her from expressing any sort of concern or interest in the matter.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Sep 10, 2020This isn't in her Ward FYI.
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She's providing an explanation because so many people reached to her to try and find one. It's in her tweet. I can only assume because the actual alderperson for these buildings was non-responsive.
Yeah, that statement is infuriating. The reference to the current state of the vacant buildings on the 17xx Olive Block is particularly insulting. I guess if someone wants to demo those, it's already been justified as well...quincunx wrote: ↑Sep 10, 2020"Limited reuse potential" f you. The whole point of the damn stadium was to enhance the reuse potential of the surroundings!
I believe the saying, "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." is especially apt for this letter.
Best case scenario here is probably a Pennant Building clone, hopefully without the precast brick panel podium.addxb2 wrote: ↑Sep 10, 2020I’m also intrigued by this BUT unless it’s a garage with 15+ floors of housing above it...not interested.Laife Fulk wrote:I'm probably the only person here who will have this view but... the TDD piece at the bottom is actually really intriguing. Yes, it's going to be a parking lot right off the bat, but that makes me think there's a long term plan in play that we're not privy to.
Downtown has countless “mixed use” garages. Many of them complete garbage.
I keep forgetting to mention: It's hard to tell from the front, given how much these buildings have been butchered, but the building(s) at 1908-1914 Olive were built in 1883 (according to Geo St. Louis).
Here's 1700 Olive. I guess they're up for demo for anyone interested.
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All this for ~35 surface parking spots. STL you never stop disappointing me
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Are those buildings at 1700 set for demo? Or was that an off the cuff comment? I have seen operating business in that strip.
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^ Their underutilization was used for justifying the 1900 block demo
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well that tall one on the corner of 1700 could be re-purposed for apts condos and just from the pic of the building they would be pretty cool
Downtown West demolitions in the last five years. Not a whole lot of improvements here, mostly parking. And there was already a ton of wasted land, between parking and just grassy lots.
^Ah, but all of those grassy lots have now been converted to gravel lots, so that's an improvement. 
KMOX aired some clips of my interview with Michael Calhoun last Tuesday. He reported that they had made repeated attempts to get comment from the team and CRO in vain.
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In hindsight, we probably should have expected this. Enterprise lives and dies by the automobile.
As previously brought up, most of this block is parking anyways. How many more spots could they possibly get out of this? Hope for the best, but expect the worst, I guess.
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For $4.5 million, why don't they build a parking garage on the part of the block that hasn't been occupied by buildings for the last century and a half? All of this for 60 parking spots are you shitting me? Like the lots around Busch, this is just going to be sat on for decades because there's no way the owner could lose money. No, we are not going to see shiny new buildings in the form of STLSC's version of BPV; no, we're not going to see enterprise moving their corporate headquarters here. What we're going to see is the further destruction of our urban fabric in order to make room for automobiles, A TREND THAT HAS DESTROYED THIS CITY AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. Bull sh*t that these are "limited reuse potential." I cannot fathom the poor leadership and the corporate greed that has lead to this decision. Truly horrendous.