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PostJun 04, 2020#7601

^The trouble may be that so many of us are so outraged about so much right now that we're just . . . tired. Sure. I'm outraged. It's a tragedy. I'm sure he was a great guy. Whoever shot him should be brought to justice and Dorn's family should have the joy of seeing that person or people crushed under the full weight of the law. And . . . 

Take a number. There are so many people waiting for justice right now it defies description. And given that the police are themselves credibly accused of dispensing injustice . . . Things. Get. Tricky.

That said, I sincerely hope they round up whoever did it. And whoever shot the four cops. And every single one of the cops who have tarnished the very idea of justice by murdering unarmed and innocent people so often and so brazenly for no apparent reason beyond the color of their skin.

It's hard to maintain the level of outrage required to get angry at all these folks. I assure you, I am trying. But it wears on one. Dorn's murder appears to be a rather special case; genuinely worthy of extra spicy outrage sauce. But man . . . take a number.

I really need to give the field where I grow my ***** a season or two to lie fallow so that I have appropriate ***** to give. I want to give them. I do.

In the meantime, a lot of people with a lot of ***** which have gone unheard are handing them out. The dam holding back the lake of ***** we did not give has burst. We are flooded with ungiven ***** of our own creation.

PostJun 04, 2020#7602

What the *****? We're censoring posts now? What cunt came up with that idea? ***** them and the broken down ass they rode in on.

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PostJun 04, 2020#7603

^ Might be something Tapatalk does on its own with a built-in 'swear filter', though I'm not sure about that.

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PostJun 04, 2020#7604

DTGstl314 wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
Feb 18, 2020
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Feb 18, 2020
2013-2016 is the outliner.   The trend in Chicago has been going down towards since the 1990s.
No its not. The outliers have been 2016-2018. 

Educate yourself 
https://heyjackass.com/category/2015-ch ... der-stats/

Chicago homicide totals fluctuated between 415 and 532 every year from 2004-2015 and then BOOM, 800
The overall trend of homicides in Chicago has been going down over the past 30 years. There was a huge spike in 2016, but it has quickly come back down since then. It's still not great, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in the early 1990s. And, on a per capita basis, it's still doing way, way better than St. Louis (our 2018 homicide rate was nearly triple theirs).

Not only is this a out of date necropost, it totally misses the mark of the previous discussion. Well done. 

Further, Chicago should be compared to its peers, not St. Louis. And compared to its peers, ChiTown is a bloodbath.

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PostJun 04, 2020#7605

BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
DTGstl314 wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
Feb 18, 2020
No its not. The outliers have been 2016-2018. 

Educate yourself 
https://heyjackass.com/category/2015-ch ... der-stats/

Chicago homicide totals fluctuated between 415 and 532 every year from 2004-2015 and then BOOM, 800
The overall trend of homicides in Chicago has been going down over the past 30 years. There was a huge spike in 2016, but it has quickly come back down since then. It's still not great, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in the early 1990s. And, on a per capita basis, it's still doing way, way better than St. Louis (our 2018 homicide rate was nearly triple theirs).

Not only is this a out of date necropost, it totally misses the mark of the previous discussion. Well done. 

Further, Chicago should be compared to its peers, not St. Louis. And compared to its peers, ChiTown is a bloodbath.
Fun thing about rates per x is you can compare any city with any other city

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PostJun 04, 2020#7606

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
DTGstl314 wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
The overall trend of homicides in Chicago has been going down over the past 30 years. There was a huge spike in 2016, but it has quickly come back down since then. It's still not great, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in the early 1990s. And, on a per capita basis, it's still doing way, way better than St. Louis (our 2018 homicide rate was nearly triple theirs).

Not only is this a out of date necropost, it totally misses the mark of the previous discussion. Well done. 

Further, Chicago should be compared to its peers, not St. Louis. And compared to its peers, ChiTown is a bloodbath.
Fun thing about rates per x is you can compare any city with any other city
Not well. But I wouldn't expect you to know that after seeing your weak understanding of statistics constantly smeared all over the COVID thread.

Btw, 26 people murdered between noon Friday and 3am Monday in Chicago. Another 90 wounded.

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PostJun 04, 2020#7607

BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
Not only is this a out of date necropost, it totally misses the mark of the previous discussion. Well done. 

Further, Chicago should be compared to its peers, not St. Louis. And compared to its peers, ChiTown is a bloodbath.
Fun thing about rates per x is you can compare any city with any other city
Not well. But I wouldn't expect you to know that after seeing your weak understanding of statistics constantly smeared all over the COVID thread.

Btw, 26 people murdered between noon Friday and 3am Monday in Chicago. Another 90 wounded.
angry little beaver 

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PostJun 04, 2020#7608

symphonicpoet wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
What the *****? We're censoring posts now? What cunt came up with that idea? ***** them and the broken down ass they rode in on.
We had a filter that changed out that word without the s back in the day, and only a few other words. Not sure how that transferred over to tapatalk. Your use would have made it through that filter.

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PostJun 04, 2020#7609

There were six separate shootings in and around downtown Saturday afternoon to early  Sunday morning. 11 people shot, at least 8 of them supposedly bystanders, and 2 dead. None of these apparently had any direct connection with any rioting or looting. Barely a peep in the local media about it...

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PostJun 05, 2020#7610

^ I don’t watch any of the local television news, but the PD had this a few days ago:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... fc321.html

KMOV:
https://www.kmov.com/news/police-id-2-m ... 28d8d.html

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PostJun 05, 2020#7611

This is like right wingers on twitters posting a news article from like NBC news and saying why won’t media cover this

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PostJun 05, 2020#7612

sc4mayor wrote:
Jun 05, 2020
^ I don’t watch any of the local television news, but the PD had this a few days ago:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... fc321.html

KMOV:
https://www.kmov.com/news/police-id-2-m ... 28d8d.html
Yep, those were the peeps. I've been reading local news all week, and only ever saw it as a link below an article about the looting.

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PostJun 05, 2020#7613

BellaVilla wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
DTGstl314 wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
Feb 18, 2020
No its not. The outliers have been 2016-2018. 

Educate yourself 
https://heyjackass.com/category/2015-ch ... der-stats/

Chicago homicide totals fluctuated between 415 and 532 every year from 2004-2015 and then BOOM, 800
The overall trend of homicides in Chicago has been going down over the past 30 years. There was a huge spike in 2016, but it has quickly come back down since then. It's still not great, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in the early 1990s. And, on a per capita basis, it's still doing way, way better than St. Louis (our 2018 homicide rate was nearly triple theirs).

Not only is this a out of date necropost, it totally misses the mark of the previous discussion. Well done. 

Further, Chicago should be compared to its peers, not St. Louis. And compared to its peers, ChiTown is a bloodbath.
And St. Louis compared to its peers is also a bloodbath. What's your point?

My point is this - we St. Louisans can rag on the City of Chicago for many, many things, but the murder rate in Chicago probably isn't the thing we want to shine the brightest light on to denigrate them over because, well... pot, kettle. We've fairly consistently ranked in the top 3-5 cities in America in murder rate for most of the last 3 decades. We don't really have the moral high ground to be casting aspersions on almost any other city in America over their terrible murder rate.

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PostJun 05, 2020#7614

MattnSTL wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
symphonicpoet wrote:
Jun 04, 2020
What the *****? We're censoring posts now? What cunt came up with that idea? ***** them and the broken down ass they rode in on.
We had a filter that changed out that word without the s back in the day, and only a few other words. Not sure how that transferred over to tapatalk. Your use would have made it through that filter.
Sorry. I get bent about the oddest things at the moment. Sitting around at home twiddling my star star star star thumbs isn't doing me any star star star staring good. Forgive the second tirade. You have a hard enough job without me unloading on you. Sorry about that. Thou art neither phallus nor vagus, but homo sapiens summus entireus. ;-)

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PostJun 05, 2020#7615

leeharveyawesome wrote:
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The person that shot David Dorn dead in cold blood for no reason must be brought to justice.

Read about this man and his life. Where is the outrage?

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
Here you go:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... c86.html#1


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PostJun 05, 2020#7616

^ id bet a lot of money that LeeRacebait didn’t go to the march, he doesn’t give a damn about David Dorn.  The looney right has been using the tragic death of David in some sick and twisted way to discredit the #blm movement.  It’s vile.

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PostJun 05, 2020#7617

^Actually, I'm familiar with that person, as well as Chief Dowd. You've very much gone out of bounds here. Shouldn't bet on what you don't know. 

I'll ask that you retract or amend your previous posting. 

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PostJun 05, 2020#7618

gone corporate wrote:
Jun 05, 2020
^Actually, I'm familiar with that person, as well as Chief Dowd. You've very much gone out of bounds here. Shouldn't bet on what you don't know. 

I'll ask that you retract or amend your previous posting. 
It wouldn’t be betting if it’s known. The unknown makes it betting

It’s Dorn. And no, I stand by my posts and I don’t hide behind usernames.  


Amendment:  lol, you’re a hoot.
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PostJun 05, 2020#7619

I had to work. Couldn't make it. I do, however, send my best wishes. And I send my best wishes to all BLM protestors as well. Relax. Have a nice weekend.

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PostJun 19, 2020#7620

Eighty eight homicides so far this year, vs. 83 at this time last year. 

PostJun 22, 2020#7621

Meanwhile, in Chicago, 102 people were shot over the Father's Day weekend. 

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/xan ... 29315.html

PostJun 26, 2020#7622

Recap of city murders so far this year:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 3fe4c.html

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PostJun 26, 2020#7623

No arrests for 63/92. No motive for 72/92.

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PostJun 29, 2020#7624

^I am guessing that you cannot ascertain a motive if you have not made an arrest (which most likely you haven't because you do not know who the murderer is).

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PostJul 02, 2020#7625

Two things in homicide data caught my eye...
- North Patrol (Districts 5 and 6 below) is trending towards lowest numbers since 2013. I hope the media and city can recognize/reward the community orgs doing the hard work!
- Central Patrol (Districts 3 and 4) is trending towards worst numbers since at least 2010.





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