Current progress on this effort: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe ... 65527&z=16quincunx wrote: ↑May 01, 2020
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^They couldn't have gotten this started a few weeks ago when there was little traffic downtown? I kid...kinda...
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this was suppose to start in June but got moved to May 1- the reason it couldn't be sooner is that pavement compaction with temps under 60 doesnt work well and you have very limited time to set it and roll it.urbanitas wrote: ↑May 04, 2020^They couldn't have gotten this started a few weeks ago when there was little traffic downtown? I kid...kinda...
^And considering the City crews often don't do the greatest job to start with, best to do it when weather is conducive.
Kind of an interesting read in the PD. New LED street lights are being placed around Union Station replacing some of the older fixtures. These new fixtures were agreed upon by Union Station managers, aldermen and the city streets department but they have roiled a streetscape designer/activist in Brentwood who would like to see the older fixtures maintained.
The City maintains that many of the tops taken down were replicas installed in the 80s and that the metal framework parts aren't as easily available.
Curious to know what you folks think. I personally don't hate the new ones and LED's are a huge improvement, but the missing metal framework is kind of noticeable.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... d6f42.html
The City maintains that many of the tops taken down were replicas installed in the 80s and that the metal framework parts aren't as easily available.
Curious to know what you folks think. I personally don't hate the new ones and LED's are a huge improvement, but the missing metal framework is kind of noticeable.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... d6f42.html
Well, yeah, the originals are better looking, but probably not that big of a deal. What really bothers me, though, is the amount of light that's gonna be spilled upward, wasting energy and causing light pollution.
I'll have to see for myself to make an opinion. Driving through the Grove at night sucks with those LED lights on Manchester. They make orange LED lights, just put those in instead of those white ones. Easier on the eyes.
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The Grove LED lights just need some form of cap to help focus the light down more. Fix that and the sidewalks will be bright while drastically improving the walkability and drivability at night.
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Agree. I've seem them look great in other cities, Never thought I'd say that, used to hate em. The ones they put in Fox Park are much better. And the efficiency is an undeniable bonus.chaifetz10 wrote: ↑May 09, 2020The Grove LED lights just need some form of cap to help focus the light down more. Fix that and the sidewalks will be bright while drastically improving the walkability and drivability at night.
Tell them once again what to do
DESIGN THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS
https://downtownstl.org/design-downtown-stl/
DESIGN THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS
https://downtownstl.org/design-downtown-stl/
Tell them that one-way streets are unnecessary and dangerous to pedestrians, drivers, cyclists, etc.
As for the Union Station street light replacements, I'm not happy. I despise the cobra heads.
EDIT: I'm actually impressed with the comments on the Interactive Downtown Map. Quite a few comments to revert the one-way streets. There was a comment to make a street pedestrian only; it was nice to see someone comment next to it saying that we're not nearly dense enough and it would do more harm than good. I seem to be in the minority when it comes to opening 9th street to cars in City Garden, only during certain hours, of course. I also seem to be in the minority when it comes to saving the Millennium Hotel. I love that building dearly and of all the places downtown that are in desperate need of streetfront activation, that stretch of 4th street is not one of them.
As for the Union Station street light replacements, I'm not happy. I despise the cobra heads.
EDIT: I'm actually impressed with the comments on the Interactive Downtown Map. Quite a few comments to revert the one-way streets. There was a comment to make a street pedestrian only; it was nice to see someone comment next to it saying that we're not nearly dense enough and it would do more harm than good. I seem to be in the minority when it comes to opening 9th street to cars in City Garden, only during certain hours, of course. I also seem to be in the minority when it comes to saving the Millennium Hotel. I love that building dearly and of all the places downtown that are in desperate need of streetfront activation, that stretch of 4th street is not one of them.
^ From the Downtown Design Survey. Apparently, they are looking to infill downtown west with rowhouse housing in the $100k-$200k price range. Good idea if you ask me.
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Can we get a button to just agree with people? I would press agree so many times on this comment.....aprice wrote: ↑May 11, 2020Tell them that one-way streets are unnecessary and dangerous to pedestrians, drivers, cyclists, etc.
As for the Union Station street light replacements, I'm not happy. I despise the cobra heads.
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Rowhouses in downtown, downtown west, south of I64, and pretty much anywhere there's an open lot would do wonders for the entire area. Sign me up for one now.
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Without discounting the importance of rowhouses, I don't think they belong in the more central areas of downtown west. Maybe North of Delmar and south of 64, but anything in between, especially on Pine and Locust, seems like a waste of potential. Would much rather see these lots occupied by your tride and true five over ones.
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Also those residential buildings replacing or on top of the Keiner garages can't come soon enough. Those highly visible abominations need to be a priority.
Also those residential buildings replacing or on top of the Keiner garages can't come soon enough. Those highly visible abominations need to be a priority.
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they are moving fast but its been very sloppy...their paving around manhole covers is amateur at bestMattnSTL wrote: ↑May 05, 2020^And considering the City crews often don't do the greatest job to start with, best to do it when weather is conducive.
Walk up townhomes in the 3 story range would do wonders for Downtown West. That's the housing diversity that makes a place like Center City, Philadelphia so great. Many don't realize that a lot of Manhattan is also comprised of these "brownstone" neighborhoods. Also, filling in the gaps in Downtown West will push any future tower development closer to the river, where I think it will have the best impact IMO.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑May 11, 2020Without discounting the importance of rowhouses, I don't think they belong in the more central areas of downtown west. Maybe North of Delmar and south of 64, but anything in between, especially on Pine and Locust, seems like a waste of potential. Would much rather see these lots occupied by your tride and true five over ones.
Also those residential buildings replacing or on top of the Keiner garages can't come soon enough. Those highly visible abominations need to be a priority.
I’d object if Downtown were a) short on surface parking and b) a hot real estate market.
At this point I’d support any reasonably dense development that’s built to the street and matches STL character. Soulard in Downtown is a pretty great idea.
At this point I’d support any reasonably dense development that’s built to the street and matches STL character. Soulard in Downtown is a pretty great idea.
Brookings Institute has identified the fastest growing downtowns between 2000-2018
They rank StL 7th (71.
which kind of surprised me, we have had some good years, but seems like there are a lot of cities where downtowns have grown faster. I guess it was because downtown population was next to nothing in 2000
https://www.brookings.edu/research/big- ... ronavirus/
They rank StL 7th (71.
which kind of surprised me, we have had some good years, but seems like there are a lot of cities where downtowns have grown faster. I guess it was because downtown population was next to nothing in 2000https://www.brookings.edu/research/big- ... ronavirus/
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Apparently the Note Bar and Vaya con Dillas at Park Pacific are permanently closing (according to my neighbor in the building). Which makes sense they depend on sporting events/concerts downtown and who knows when those will be back
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I apologize if the picture quality is bad I was on my run. Looks like the street resurfacing may bring us a new bike lane. I don’t like the design/layout of it but it’s the right time to go about it as other cities across the world are doing the same. This is between the courts building and the Richard Serra sculpture.
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LArchitecture wrote:
I apologize if the picture quality is bad I was on my run. Looks like the street resurfacing may bring us a new bike lane. I don’t like the design/layout of it but it’s the right time to go about it as other cities across the world are doing the same. This is between the courts building and the Richard Serra sculpture.
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