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leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

Trump to address nation this evening.

Rumor is that the payroll tax will be suspended for the remainder of 2020.

Bankrupting medicare and social security isn’t going to pass the House

dbInSouthCity wrote:NCAA will play March Madness with no fans in the arenas. Including 2 rounds that will be played at Enterprise next week

It’s going to be a rough spring for downtown businesses...


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dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

Trump to address nation this evening.

Rumor is that the payroll tax will be suspended for the remainder of 2020.

Bankrupting medicare and social security isn’t going to pass the House

They wil find the money. They always do. Don't scare boomers. If the House doesn't pass it then that means they don't care about people dying from coronavirus. It's called politics.

As far as no fan March Madness. ***** THAT

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

NCAA will play March Madness with no fans in the arenas. Including 2 rounds that will be played at Enterprise next week

I would rather see them move it to a smaller gym if there won't be many fans. SLU/SIUE/UMSL, etc. I doubt they do, but there isn't a point to have a huge area (except for maybe locker room space). 

Saturday downtown st.patricks day parade has been cancelled.

Lewis Reed calling for the cancellation of both parades:

Number of cases has started to climb 

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

NCAA will play March Madness with no fans in the arenas. Including 2 rounds that will be played at Enterprise next week

I would rather see them move it to a smaller gym if there won't be many fans. SLU/SIUE/UMSL, etc. I doubt they do, but there isn't a point to have a huge area (except for maybe locker room space). 

Just move it to St. Gabe's

ricke002 wrote:

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

downtown2007 wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

The person from Bayer has not tested positive. There is still only 1 positive test in STL thus far. At this point, the whole situation is overblown. Use common sense, wash your hands, and carry on.


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THIS is the most irresponsible take out there right now. "It's no big deal yet. Just wash your hands you big jabroni!" 

Why do people need body bags to realize this needs to be addressed with serious measures right now? Lets be conservative and suppose that 0.5% of the population of StL requires hospitalization. That's 1500 people or 250 more people than beds at Barnes's CWE hospital, most of which already have sick people in them. 

Stop being flippant. 

The more likely % of people that will require hospitalization is between 2.5 and 5. Imagine 15K St. Louisans requiring hospitalization on the next 2-3 months? Seeing the seriousness yet?

But if it doesn't directly affect ME, why should I care?!?

I don’t go to the parade. But if you are afraid you are going to get sick you don’t have to go. Again, nothing at all has changed since this morning.


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downtown2007 wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

ricke002 wrote:

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

THIS is the most irresponsible take out there right now. "It's no big deal yet. Just wash your hands you big jabroni!" 

Why do people need body bags to realize this needs to be addressed with serious measures right now? Lets be conservative and suppose that 0.5% of the population of StL requires hospitalization. That's 1500 people or 250 more people than beds at Barnes's CWE hospital, most of which already have sick people in them. 

Stop being flippant. 

The more likely % of people that will require hospitalization is between 2.5 and 5. Imagine 15K St. Louisans requiring hospitalization on the next 2-3 months? Seeing the seriousness yet?

But if it doesn't directly affect ME, why should I care?!?

I don’t go to the parade. But if you are afraid you are going to get sick you don’t have to go. Again, nothing at all has changed since this morning.


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Totally dude, I didn’t go to China where this started so I’m good, right? Why do you think the f’in guy who’s the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 is asking to all mass gatherings of 250 or more to be banned for near future

downtown2007 wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

ricke002 wrote:

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

THIS is the most irresponsible take out there right now. "It's no big deal yet. Just wash your hands you big jabroni!" 

Why do people need body bags to realize this needs to be addressed with serious measures right now? Lets be conservative and suppose that 0.5% of the population of StL requires hospitalization. That's 1500 people or 250 more people than beds at Barnes's CWE hospital, most of which already have sick people in them. 

Stop being flippant. 

The more likely % of people that will require hospitalization is between 2.5 and 5. Imagine 15K St. Louisans requiring hospitalization on the next 2-3 months? Seeing the seriousness yet?

But if it doesn't directly affect ME, why should I care?!?

I don’t go to the parade. But if you are afraid you are going to get sick you don’t have to go. Again, nothing at all has changed since this morning.


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Very few, if any, of use are worried about this. We are worried about our parents, grand parents, infants and our immuno-compromised friends, family, and neighbors. 

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

Very few, if any, of use are worried about this. We are worried about our parents, grand parents, infants and our immuno-compromised friends, family, and neighbors. 

Despite my previous comments on this thread, I do worry about the people mentioned. Personally, I'm not that worried about my own health despite having a terrible and borderline non-existent immune system. Sadly, I'm staying away from some of my friends just because they've had a cold recently and other things. I don't want to bring that into my house. However, I'm not going to imprison myself in my house to stay away from the coronavirus. My family knows this so we are all being careful.

Still, I believe what I said before. This still seems pretty overblown. Could I be wrong? Maybe. But reading an earlier post about a Senate Meeting where the 150 Million infected people figure was thrown around makes me shake my head. I highly doubt we will get that many if China never did and still hasn't. Living conditions in the U.S. are much better than in China. While our hospital system probably can't handle all the patients the U.S. will get, we will get something done (states will probably handle it) to combat this disease. I could see some schools become temporary hospitals if we need the space. Colleges are canceling classes anyway, so it could make some sense to use empty dorm buildings as care centers for a few months.

There are multiple avenues to take in this. Changing how we do our lives on a day to day basis isn't needed right now. For some, yes. But for an overwhelming majority of Americans, we don't have to change how we live our lives.

We are smart people. We should act that way instead of canceling everything out of fear. I'm interested in seeing just how many cases we have. It's going to be a week or two but I doubt we are over 500,000 nationwide cases right now. I also know, as well as all of you, that scientists are working on a vaccine. That's great but we need to try and speed up the process. The Israelis are working on an oral vaccine and seem to be the furthest ahead in research. Countries should team with them to advance this much faster.

Common sense and thought will prevail over impulsive decisions and fear. 

I must also apologize for my incoherent and rambling posts. Not like any of you care but I thought I would put that out there.

As an authoritarian government China had the ability to take drastic actions to prevent the spread of the virus. I doubt the US or any western country would have the ability to do near what China did 

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Mar 11, 2020

Very few, if any, of use are worried about this. We are worried about our parents, grand parents, infants and our immuno-compromised friends, family, and neighbors. 

Despite my previous comments on this thread, I do worry about the people mentioned. Personally, I'm not that worried about my own health despite having a terrible and borderline non-existent immune system. Sadly, I'm staying away from some of my friends just because they've had a cold recently and other things. I don't want to bring that into my house. However, I'm not going to imprison myself in my house to stay away from the coronavirus. My family knows this so we are all being careful.

Still, I believe what I said before. This still seems pretty overblown. Could I be wrong? Maybe. But reading an earlier post about a Senate Meeting where the 150 Million infected people figure was thrown around makes me shake my head. I highly doubt we will get that many if China never did and still hasn't. Living conditions in the U.S. are much better than in China. While our hospital system probably can't handle all the patients the U.S. will get, we will get something done (states will probably handle it) to combat this disease. I could see some schools become temporary hospitals if we need the space. Colleges are canceling classes anyway, so it could make some sense to use empty dorm buildings as care centers for a few months.

There are multiple avenues to take in this. Changing how we do our lives on a day to day basis isn't needed right now. For some, yes. But for an overwhelming majority of Americans, we don't have to change how we live our lives.

We are smart people. We should act that way instead of canceling everything out of fear. I'm interested in seeing just how many cases we have. It's going to be a week or two but I doubt we are over 500,000 nationwide cases right now. I also know, as well as all of you, that scientists are working on a vaccine. That's great but we need to try and speed up the process. The Israelis are working on an oral vaccine and seem to be the furthest ahead in research. Countries should team with them to advance this much faster.

Common sense and thought will prevail over impulsive decisions and fear. 

I must also apologize for my incoherent and rambling posts. Not like any of you care but I thought I would put that out there.

I was sure you would take the last day or so and google what a “novel coronavirus” is but doesn’t appear so.    And common sense & though has prevailed- hence why mass gatherings are postponed.  That will minimize the impact.  

Again- the head of the agency that handles virus’ for 36 years now,  said just today. We aren’t ready, things will get worse. Ban mass gatherings.

Please, folks, take this stuff seriously.  The way we avoid having to take extreme measures like Italy has had to take is by not doing what Italy was doing a week ago and that was not taking things particularly seriously.  We were gifted with a bit of time and let's not squander that. Things will get more serious but if we take strong action now we can minimize the pain.

Year from now this will be an interesting study/discussion- how Asian technocratic democracies (incl. Taiwin, not featured) are dealing with it better than western liberal democracies

Cottleville St. Pats is cancelled

I think the mayor has to considered issues a EO to close event/venues of 250 or more just to save them, if she does that they can file insurance claims for the revenue loss which is going to happen either way

dbInSouthCity wrote:Well hope none of you had plans to go to Europe. It’s banned for the next 30 days

Britain is the exception here. This is something I think needs to be done. We should really have the British enforce rules to prevent non-British people from coming to the US. It may be controversial but it’s an idea

I'm supposed to be in Europe in 56 days. We'll see about that.

Tom Hanks has coronovirus.

If Europe banned travel from China immediately like Trump did we'd probably be ok. Didn't happen.

leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑

Mar 12, 2020

I'm supposed to be in Europe in 56 days. We'll see about that.

Tom Hanks has coronovirus.

If Europe banned travel from China immediately like Trump did we'd probably be ok. Didn't happen.

Imagine if he'd taken it seriously weeks ago