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And then there's this woman who was caught red-handed stealing from IKEA, but Gardner dropped all charges, including theft, assault, and failure to appear in court. Yes, I know, this is a very minor incident, but still. Criminals know they can get away with anything these days. 

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... a716c.html

framer wrote: ↑

Jan 30, 2020

And then there's this woman who was caught red-handed stealing from IKEA, but Gardner dropped all charges, including theft, assault, and failure to appear in court. Yes, I know, this is a very minor incident, but still. Criminals know they can get away with anything these days. 

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... a716c.html

Winner winner chicken dinner.

The number of expired temp tags I see is ridiculous.  They know the cops won't pull them over anymore.

For those interested in tracking the success of Cure the Violence. I’m not expecting to see major results immediately following launch, but hopefully we see the 2020 line shift lower over the year.

I wonder how much sales tax revenue the city misses out on due to the tag issue.

Rooster wrote: ↑

Jan 30, 2020

Winner winner chicken dinner.

The number of expired temp tags I see is ridiculous.  They know the cops won't pull them over anymore.

They aren't just expired, I've seen quite a few that are obviously fake or were taken off another vehicle and taped on.  Heck, I see at least a couple cars a week driving around during the day with no plates or tags at all.  And then of course there's all of the Illinois plates you see on cars parked regularly around city neighborhoods.  I would bet that over half the cars parked on the street in certain south side neighborhoods are not legally registered.

That's why I was laughing when it was suggested door cameras could "catch the license plates of porch pirates".

The Illinois plates aren’t legal. They buy the car and register them to a friend or family’s address so they don’t have to pay personal property taxes. The City is losing a ton of money from these fraudsters.


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Right now the fine for not paying sales tax aka not registering car after 30 days is $20 a month up to $200. I’ve suggested that it should be $100 a month up to $1,200 and after a year another $1200 but since the republicans passed senate bill 5 and other restrictions on traffic/driving fines and the current state AG leading rft effort, it’s never going to happen.

Fines? Nobody pays fines anymore. 

framer wrote: ↑

Feb 02, 2020

Fines? Nobody pays fines anymore. 

I don’t pay parking tickets anymore, in the city or county or anywhere but I did pay my last speeding ticket

^They still issue speeding tickets? Where did you get that? I thought even Marlboro had given up. Heck the proposed new county bike rules refer to vehicles operating at less than the "posted speed . . . " as though this was the recommended operating speed rather than a theoretical limit.

symphonicpoet wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

^They still issue speeding tickets? Where did you get that? I thought even Marlboro had given up. Heck the proposed new county bike rules refer to vehicles operating at less than the "posted speed . . . " as though this was the recommended operating speed rather than a theoretical limit.

Nationwide, like 40% of motorists don't understand the speed limit, it being the maximum permitted speed, not the minimum. That part of the county bike rules really floored me.
Here in the city, it's all irrelevant. I nearly got killed biking here at N. Blair at Branch  a couple months back, a couple of quiet neighborhood streets. I was headed north (on a Bike STL route!), turning right onto Branch, there were two cars westbound on Branch, one passing the other in the oncoming lane, both going 45mph or so, not even slowing for the stop sign while disregarding the speed limit and the general rules of passing on side streets.

So that'll be the last time I'll listen to anybody tell me a damn thing about biking laws, or any other laws that aren't homicide in the city.

eee123 wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

Nationwide, like 40% of motorists don't understand the speed limit, it being the maximum permitted speed, not the minimum. 

How these people are able to obtain their driving licenses puzzles me.

eee123 wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

symphonicpoet wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

^They still issue speeding tickets? Where did you get that? I thought even Marlboro had given up. Heck the proposed new county bike rules refer to vehicles operating at less than the "posted speed . . . " as though this was the recommended operating speed rather than a theoretical limit.

Nationwide, like 40% of motorists don't understand the speed limit, it being the maximum permitted speed, not the minimum. That part of the county bike rules really floored me.
Here in the city, it's all irrelevant. I nearly got killed biking here at N. Blair at Branch  a couple months back, a couple of quiet neighborhood streets. I was headed north (on a Bike STL route!), turning right onto Branch, there were two cars westbound on Branch, one passing the other in the oncoming lane, both going 45mph or so, not even slowing for the stop sign while disregarding the speed limit and the general rules of passing on side streets.

So that'll be the last time I'll listen to anybody tell me a damn thing about biking laws, or any other laws that aren't homicide in the city.

i'd say it's more like 90%—try driving the speed limit on the highway and count the number of cars that aren't whizzing past you. it'll be somewhere around zero. and it's not because they don't understand; it's because they don't care and nothing is enforced. drivers are a privileged class, and when people get behind steering wheels they become inhuman, dangerous assh*les.

funny story 1: i was also nearly killed while biking in the city—on Shaw. stopped at the stop sign and started to make a left turn and some human garbage in a neon blue BMW blew the stop sign going highway speeds. surprisingly, he actually bothered to swerve around me into the oncoming lane. thankfully, there was nobody waiting at the stop sign or i'd mostly likely be dead.

funny story 2: i yelled at a guy driving way too fast in a 30 and he got out of his car and told me it's legal to drive 5 MPH over the speed limit (he was going at least 15 over). i tried to explain to him that, no, it's not legal. it's that police radars are only accurate to within +/-5 MPH so they don't usually pull you over for 5 over. i don't think he heard me over his screaming. this occurred in a different state. i wouldn't do that in STL because i'd be shot.

funny story 3: some years ago i got pulled over just across the river on 64 for going 3 (three) MPH over the speed limit. no ticket, just had to sit in the front of the police car with the cop while he ran my license. it was weird.

anyway, ***** cars. had one for 17 years; never buying one again. not going to take part in this sh*t, car-humping culture any more.

Last Thanksgiving I was driving to my sister's in Columbia MO and  I as doing 84 in a 70 came over a hill and there sat a trooper sitting in the median crossover cut out d in my pointed in my direction.   I thought crap!!!!!!!!  I am going to get a ticket.   Nope.

sc4mayor wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2020

funny story 3: some years ago i got pulled over just across the river on 64 for going 3 (three) MPH over the speed limit. no ticket, just had to sit in the front of the police car with the cop while he ran my license. it was weird.

If it was a statie this is pretty standard practice.  In my experience, state troopers in Missouri, Kansas, and Illinois will sometimes (though not always) make drivers sit in the front of the police car with them for safety reasons.  Getting pulled over for 3mph over is weird though.

I think it was a state trooper—didn't realize that was standard. but yeah, the warning he gave me had my speed written down as 3 over. guess he needed to fill a warning quota.

I'm sure there will be some sort of spin put on this, but it's another in a long line of examples of the chaos in Gardner's office. 

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/after-judge-rejects-delay-prosecutors-dismiss-murder-other-charges-against/article_0e458c4b-4ab7-5935-bc18-dea185dabfe3.html#tracking-source=home-trending

jbacott wrote: ↑

Feb 05, 2020

I'm sure there will be some sort of spin put on this, but it's another in a long line of examples of the chaos in Gardner's office. 

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/after-judge-rejects-delay-prosecutors-dismiss-murder-other-charges-against/article_0e458c4b-4ab7-5935-bc18-dea185dabfe3.html#tracking-source=home-trending

I saw that yesterday and just shook my head.   Catch and release.

^Yeah, that's messed up, but to be fair, they do plan to re-file new charges, and the perp is still being held without bail. 

framer wrote: ↑

Feb 05, 2020

^Yeah, that's messed up, but to be fair, they do plan to re-file new charges, and the perp is still being held without bail. 

They've said the same thing on several of these cases and then you never heard another peep about re-filing.

Elliott Davis had some choice words for Kim Gardner on his FB page.

Glad to see him standing up for our City and our citizens.

Well I don't like Kim Gardner but I am even more suspicious of Republican state legislators from St. Charles that's for sure. Having met some of them, thanks but no thanks.

The "crime fighting scene"? Did this guy learn how write from reading Batman comics?