Looks like this project is really coming along. Can't wait to check it out!
"Largest Hofbrauhaus in North America"
https://www.facebook.com/hbbelleville/
"Largest Hofbrauhaus in North America"
https://www.facebook.com/hbbelleville/
Biz Journal reporting Hofbrauhaus in Belleville will open in Jan. 2018. Finally!!!
As of 2-23, there is now a soft opening for "early March" with a grand opening of April 18th.
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A couple months in and the reviews are... rather mediocre, it seems. Not entirely unexpected, I suppose, but still a bit disappointing nonetheless.
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My wife and I went over there on Father's Day and couldn't get in because they had a buffet and you had to have reservations that day only. They hit their limit for people without reservations. So we didn't eat, but we did walk around the hall.
It looked like a lot of fun, actually. Oompah band, big bar, outdoor games, etc. I wouldn't mind going back for at least a beer sometime. Different from other beer places in St. Louis. Felt authentic German.
It looked like a lot of fun, actually. Oompah band, big bar, outdoor games, etc. I wouldn't mind going back for at least a beer sometime. Different from other beer places in St. Louis. Felt authentic German.
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^ this article is getting way too much attention. Since when is the Hofbrauhaus a place you go to for food first. It’s a place you go to drink beer with friends, listen to music and enjoy the “Oktoberfest“ atmosphere. I’ve been to the one in Munich and Las Vegas and I didn’t eat either time. I had a blast! I think anybody who goes there to eat dinner is missing the point.
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I think the reason the food is attracting so much attention is the many people in the area hoped it would give us another option as we long for the numerous German restaurants of years past. The limited menus at the revamped Bevo or Urban Chestnut Grove just don't cut it. Guess we will keep driving all the way to Dreamland Palace for now.
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Probably not much closer for you but Roemer Topf in Moscoutah IL is another solid traditional option.southcitygent wrote: I think the reason the food is attracting so much attention is the many people in the area hoped it would give us another option as we long for the numerous German restaurants of years past. The limited menus at the revamped Bevo or Urban Chestnut Grove just don't cut it. Guess we will keep driving all the way to Dreamland Palace for now.
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Does anyone know of any place where we can obtain data on how this place is doing? I’m just curious. I went there for the first time last Friday. I understand it was opening day, but it was a Friday night and I bet it was barely 30% full. Being that it is so big, it felt slightly empty. The atmosphere was not very good. I understand that Belleville gave them tons of incentives, but what good are incentives if the place is destined to fail due to poor location. This is not a knock on Belleville. However, this place needs to be centrally located. I think it would’ve done great somewhere in the city or mid county. They chose a location that will deter people out west in Missouri from coming, outside of a rare occasion. Obviously, a hotel will help, but being that so much was spent, is this place doomed to fail due to its off the beaten path location?
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i know that Belleville really wanted this, but damn. All of the other locations i've ever been to have been super centralized and urban. I think it was a bad calculation on someones part to put it there. i never *even think* of going over there on say a saturday afternoon. i'm going to go somewhere in the central corridor if i want to sit outside and drink beer. i guess this was a good break for urban chestnut for the biergarten crowd.DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2019Does anyone know of any place where we can obtain data on how this place is doing? I’m just curious. I went there for the first time last Friday. I understand it was opening day, but it was a Friday night and I bet it was barely 30% full. Being that it is so big, it felt slightly empty. The atmosphere was not very good. I understand that Belleville gave them tons of incentives, but what good are incentives if the place is destined to fail due to poor location. This is not a knock on Belleville. However, this place needs to be centrally located. I think it would’ve done great somewhere in the city or mid county. They chose a location that will deter people out west in Missouri from coming, outside of a rare occasion. Obviously, a hotel will help, but being that so much was spent, is this place doomed to fail due to its off the beaten path location?
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I'm a member of a local FC Bayern Munich supporters group and Hofbrauhaus would be a no brainer for watch parties....if it were located somewhere anyone was willing to drive to on a regular basis. They get a few east side fans in there to watch games but nowhere near what they should have. If they had more closely replicated the original (three floors stacked with the beer hall on the ground floor and dining options on the upper floors), they could have fit this somewhere in the city and maybe retained some character and intimacy. What they have is sprawling, cavernous and sterile (in addition to being out of the way).
You've obviously never been to Rosemont, IL.warwickland wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2019i know that Belleville really wanted this, but damn. All of the other locations i've ever been to have been super centralized and urban.
The location is dumb. Forcing people to drive 10+ miles to a beerhall.
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The Rosemont location is nothing like the Belleville location. O'Hare is right around the corner, and the restaurant is in a strip that includes restaurants like Fogo De Chao, Morton's, and Capital Grille. You have a movie theater and outlet mall right there. Five or six hotels. A convention center.gregl wrote: ↑Apr 16, 2019You've obviously never been to Rosemont, IL.warwickland wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2019i know that Belleville really wanted this, but damn. All of the other locations i've ever been to have been super centralized and urban.
The Belleville location quite literally has an assisted living facility across the street. A church is nearby. Nothing else.
But "urban" it clearly is not.KansasCitian wrote: ↑Apr 17, 2019The Rosemont location is nothing like the Belleville location. O'Hare is right around the corner, and the restaurant is in a strip that includes restaurants like Fogo De Chao, Morton's, and Capital Grille. You have a movie theater and outlet mall right there. Five or six hotels. A convention center.
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No, it's not urban. It's suburban. But there is still a lot more going on around that Hofbrauhaus to support it.
I don't see that area of Belleville changing anytime soon, either.
I don't see that area of Belleville changing anytime soon, either.
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In 10,000 years archeologist will uncover the remains of our lost civilization and scratch there heads and ask themselves, 'but why build a Hofbrauhaus here?'
Personally i always thought it made sense downtown or in an adjacent neighborhood. All tourists end up down there at some point. The Convention Center and the Blues and Cardinals bring crowds as well. But if not there then I can still think of a dozen plus locations that make more sense than the current site.
Personally i always thought it made sense downtown or in an adjacent neighborhood. All tourists end up down there at some point. The Convention Center and the Blues and Cardinals bring crowds as well. But if not there then I can still think of a dozen plus locations that make more sense than the current site.
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Never understood the plan from the beginning. It not working out well would definitely not be much of a surprise. I'll take Rockwell, UCBC Grove, 4 Hands and Civil Life expansion on this side of the river and be just fine. Sorry Hofbrau. Not driving 25 minutes into a cornfield for worse beer than I have around the corner.
The Rosemont EL stop on the blue line used to be part of my Daily commute from Lakeview. (I was a reverse commuter for a year before the company I worked for moved from Rosemont to River North in downtown Chicago.)KansasCitian wrote:The Rosemont location is nothing like the Belleville location. O'Hare is right around the corner, and the restaurant is in a strip that includes restaurants like Fogo De Chao, Morton's, and Capital Grille. You have a movie theater and outlet mall right there. Five or six hotels. A convention center.gregl wrote:You've obviously never been to Rosemont, IL.warwickland wrote: i know that Belleville really wanted this, but damn. All of the other locations i've ever been to have been super centralized and urban.
The Belleville location quite literally has an assisted living facility across the street. A church is nearby. Nothing else.
It is a _very_ suburban section, but the office building I had to walk to from the stop was only a 12 minute walk or so...