Renderings here:Alex Ihnen wrote:^^ Any photos?
http://stlouis-mo.gov/government/depart ... 202011.pdf
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http://stlouis-mo.gov/government/depart ... 202011.pdf
Thought I'd revive this old thread.
The home at 1710 Carroll has been occupied for a year or so, and the brand new home at the other end of the block on Carroll has an "Under Contract" sign out front. I understand that there are five lots in between on that block, with maybe one left unsold. Construction is set to begin on the sold lots within a couple months (or less in some cases). Pretty neat.
Anyone else have other information on new Lafayette Square development? Homes being rehabbed? New construction?
The home at 1710 Carroll has been occupied for a year or so, and the brand new home at the other end of the block on Carroll has an "Under Contract" sign out front. I understand that there are five lots in between on that block, with maybe one left unsold. Construction is set to begin on the sold lots within a couple months (or less in some cases). Pretty neat.
Anyone else have other information on new Lafayette Square development? Homes being rehabbed? New construction?
1215 Mississippi Avenue just finished up its rehab a few weeks back and is for sale now: http://www.cbgundaker.com/property/deta ... 63104.aspxjimjim15 wrote:Anyone else have other information on new Lafayette Square development? Homes being rehabbed? New construction?
1216-1226 Dolman Street is considered for a Demonstration Garden in line with the Sustainable Land Lab project. The lots would be leased through the City's LRA Garden Lease Program ($1.00/year/lot). According to the City's website, over 500 LRA lots are being leased through this program that started in 1994.
The former Lafayette Fire House (1801 Park Avenue) looks to be re-opening soon as Tripel, a Belgin-style brasserie. The paper covering the windows has been removed and the interior looks great.
The two planned 3 story houses at the corner of Park and Mississippi are priced "from the 700's" !!!
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A quick scan just now revealed single family houses in the neighborhood ranging from $150k to $900k ... plus condos and rentals and a couple cheap mystery houses in forclosure. It's rare to have such a wide economic spread living so close to each other and functioning as a cohesive neighborhood.
Another home is for sale two houses to the south and is priced $110K less than the newly rehabbed home.Alex Ihnen wrote:Holy Jesus...$460K? Yay, but, ?!?!?.
And for shits and giggles the newly priced $460K home sold for barely $100K before renovation.
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It's great that there's a premium market in STL and I understand a premium is paid literally depended on what block one is on, and Laf Sq prices have seemed out of line to me for some time, but I was just sayin'.
I mean, it's nice. Presuming it's the one I'm thinking about, it was open during the Home and Garden tour. They opened up the first floor quite a bit. I hope they get that much.Alex Ihnen wrote:Holy Jesus...$460K? Yay, but, ?!?!?.
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Two more homes to be built on Carroll:
I was looking at a satellite view of Lafayette Square, and it's amazing how much potential there is for additional development - there are plenty of opportunities for infill along Dolman, there's still vacant land that's part of the Mississippi Walk townhouse development, the warehouse at Park and Dolman, vacant lots along Chouteau, a decent sized lot at LaSalle and Missouri, and of course, the massive Praxair site.
I was looking at a satellite view of Lafayette Square, and it's amazing how much potential there is for additional development - there are plenty of opportunities for infill along Dolman, there's still vacant land that's part of the Mississippi Walk townhouse development, the warehouse at Park and Dolman, vacant lots along Chouteau, a decent sized lot at LaSalle and Missouri, and of course, the massive Praxair site.
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^ Good stuff.... you're right about the former Praxair site; it presents an incredible opportunity. Anyone hear any news about any progress for the site?
For whatever it's worth, I get the sense, anecedotally from conversing with my classmates, that the Soulard/Lafayette Square area has been a rather significant beneficiary from the law school's move downtown. It feels like a lot of my classmates who were living in the Central West End and Tower Grove areas when the school was at the main SLU campus are now living in Soulard and Lafayette Square to be closer to downtown.
I don't have hard numbers or evidence to back this up, but like I said, take it for whatever it's worth.
I don't have hard numbers or evidence to back this up, but like I said, take it for whatever it's worth.
Getting the dental clinic/school built out nearby will also be a big plus. Just hope they don't go withe sea of parking/moat mentality around the building itself.rawest1 wrote:For whatever it's worth, I get the sense, anecedotally from conversing with my classmates, that the Soulard/Lafayette Square area has been a rather significant beneficiary from the law school's move downtown. It feels like a lot of my classmates who were living in the Central West End and Tower Grove areas when the school was at the main SLU campus are now living in Soulard and Lafayette Square to be closer to downtown.
I don't have hard numbers or evidence to back this up, but like I said, take it for whatever it's worth.
Anyone else feel that Lafayette Square should be working to develop the south side of Lafayette that is currently stranded between highway ramps?
There is plenty of room for development if there were some quick ramp reconfigurations (see map here).
There is plenty of room for development if there were some quick ramp reconfigurations (see map here).
Those highway ramps are atrocious! They could easily be reconfigured more tightly in order to provide space for development south of Lafayette between Truman and 18th. That stretch feels like a no-mans land.
Diverting all the traffic onto a straight stretch south of Truman would open up all that space for commercial development along the street and provide more of a solid streetscape. My blood boils when I think about what was destroyed here!
Diverting all the traffic onto a straight stretch south of Truman would open up all that space for commercial development along the street and provide more of a solid streetscape. My blood boils when I think about what was destroyed here!
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If I remember correctly, those ramps were configured (along with the ramps from Highway 40 west of Union Station that end at Chestnut Street) to accommodate Interstate 755, a freeway spur which was never built. I believe the area north of Highway 40 that would have been reserved for Interstate 755 will eventually be reconfigured, so it seems like there's no reason that the ramps to and from Truman Parkway couldn't be reconfigured to bring the lanes closer together and open up more adjacent land for development.Eastward wrote:Those highway ramps are atrocious! They could easily be reconfigured more tightly in order to provide space for development south of Lafayette between Truman and 18th. That stretch feels like a no-mans land.
Diverting all the traffic onto a straight stretch south of Truman would open up all that space for commercial development along the street and provide more of a solid streetscape. My blood boils when I think about what was destroyed here!
^ I did hear something about the ramps around Market being reconfigured at some point. It would certainly do both that area and Lafayette Square a lot of good to free up that land for development. As both areas are today, they are barren wastelands!
Thank God the highway planners didn't get their way on 755!
Thank God the highway planners didn't get their way on 755!
Seems a few new homes are coming to the park:
This corner needs some fixing up and this seems exciting. Now, I'd love to see a mixed use building for commercial and apartments/offices built around the corner on Park. This is already one of the prettiest corners in the city and such a move would really bring it together.
This corner needs some fixing up and this seems exciting. Now, I'd love to see a mixed use building for commercial and apartments/offices built around the corner on Park. This is already one of the prettiest corners in the city and such a move would really bring it together.
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These two new houses will be about a hundred feet south of the intersection. The lot at the corner itself is owned by Chris Goodson / Gilded Age, as is the lot next to it on Park. Goodson has been behind much of the significant new development in the neighborhood, including the Georgian and other City Hospital buildings, Fields Foods, Abbey Lofts, Union Cllub and the newer replica houses at Lafayette and Mississippi.
They had planned a mixed use development on the Park and Mississippi site six years ago but never moved forward. I suspect it's just a question of time.
They had planned a mixed use development on the Park and Mississippi site six years ago but never moved forward. I suspect it's just a question of time.
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I will miss the views of the Domino Sugar ghost sign on the home that this development will soon block. But, the progress and investment is awesome. Hopefullly a built out Lafayette Square sends people/investors to McKinley Heights, LaSalle and Fox Park...
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Any word on the proposed mixed-use rehab on Dolman?
Also, iirc the park's boat house will get some love as a result of the city parks bond issue.
Also, iirc the park's boat house will get some love as a result of the city parks bond issue.
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I believe 1322 Dolman (at Park) is dead. Building is listed for sale for $1.445 million.
^ Good news all around with the exception of the Dolman building.
All the lots south of Park need mixed use infill. Can't wait to see the day when both sides of Park are built out to include a fair amount of apartments above-that would really add some life to the area.
All the lots south of Park need mixed use infill. Can't wait to see the day when both sides of Park are built out to include a fair amount of apartments above-that would really add some life to the area.
Posting this here before someone creates a new thread for it (sorry, personally I'm not a fan of every project and news article having it's own thread). Plus this thread was originally about the Praxair site.
Big Plans For Lafayette Square - Greg Johnson at NextSTL
https://nextstl.com/2018/03/big-plans-f ... te-square/
Big Plans For Lafayette Square - Greg Johnson at NextSTL
https://nextstl.com/2018/03/big-plans-f ... te-square/
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^Great news.
Makes me think - anyone heard anything about the 3 story apartment proposal along Park Avenue? Across the street from Square One brewery I believe.
Makes me think - anyone heard anything about the 3 story apartment proposal along Park Avenue? Across the street from Square One brewery I believe.