Pace plan gives me nightmares to this daySTLrainbow wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018^ tbh before Lawrence Group announced their plans I was hoping we could get something like Ponce City Market here; I envisioned the Lemp Brewery complex but Foundry it is. I really hope the tenant mix leads to something special; I think the atmosphere of the foundry should be able to set the stage well enough.
And I think we should also remember what Pace had planned.... and how so many people thought we should settle for that because we're Saint Louis.
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Im just waiting for a basic sporting goods store.SouthCityJR wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018Still basically nowhere in the City to buy a simple pair of Levi's jeans. We shouldn't have to go to the suburbs for that.
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I see this being similar to the inside of the food court at the Nashville Farmers Market. Even on a weekday in the dead of winter, it was filled with people getting lunch. It was hard to decide between all of the delicious looking options. It also seemed to be a draw for development in the area.
Let's not forget that St. Louis has had a market for over 200 years, it's called Soulard Market. This is really just a 21st century reincarnation of the same concept. The fact is that great cities have markets. I think St. Louis is just late when it comes to trends, this being the urban food court in old industrial building trend.
With that said, this project has the potential to be truly transformative. Hard not to think that between this, the armory, and SLU hospital project, we may see that old industrial valley fill up with development faster than planned, especially seeing that SLU has massive subsidies already in place. I think the Steelcote building is just the beginning.
With that said, this project has the potential to be truly transformative. Hard not to think that between this, the armory, and SLU hospital project, we may see that old industrial valley fill up with development faster than planned, especially seeing that SLU has massive subsidies already in place. I think the Steelcote building is just the beginning.
Nice pick up. It will interesting if high lease rate will help kick off phase II office proposed sooner than later.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018While everyone is distracted with the Post article, St. Louis Magazine released the most detail I've seen yet. The office space is 85% leased and new renderings!
https://www.stlmag.com/dining/city-foun ... lining-up/
One reality in the brick & mortar world is Amazon/Online is taking away some retail that helped kill the original Pace proposal in the first place and certainly can deliver a bowling ball. But it is tougher for the online world to deliver the bowling alley to go with the bowling ball or the cinema sized screens to go with the movie, so on. Just think entertain is going to be a much bigger piece of the brick & mortar retail pie/square footage pie going forward. Foundry just the latest of more to come.
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And let's not forget socks and underwear. We shouldn't have to go to the suburbs to get socks and underwear. St. Louis is a socks and underwear desert!mjbais1489 wrote:Im just waiting for a basic sporting goods store.SouthCityJR wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018Still basically nowhere in the City to buy a simple pair of Levi's jeans. We shouldn't have to go to the suburbs for that.
Everything about City Foundry looks great. Only question is.....will there consistently be enough people to make it hustle and bustle?
We need more people.
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Would love that! How about a place besides Hampton Target to buy a polo shirt or a flat screen TV? I swear, besides the extreme Southwest corner our City is a retail desert.mjbais1489 wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018Im just waiting for a basic sporting goods store.SouthCityJR wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2018Still basically nowhere in the City to buy a simple pair of Levi's jeans. We shouldn't have to go to the suburbs for that.
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How about North Southgrand? Or Grand Offcenter? Or maybe "We're not quite dead yet." Patsy Place. Even better.
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(Note: The above imagery is inspired by copyrighted stuff and I threw it together in ten minutes. This is a joke. Not to be taken seriously. And it is NOT the good stuff.)
And I'm WAY too lazy to rotate, warp, or otherwise distort the text tonight. As that would take well more time than I want to spend. Didn't even bother to center anything. Just eyeballed it.
(Note: The above imagery is inspired by copyrighted stuff and I threw it together in ten minutes. This is a joke. Not to be taken seriously. And it is NOT the good stuff.)
And I'm WAY too lazy to rotate, warp, or otherwise distort the text tonight. As that would take well more time than I want to spend. Didn't even bother to center anything. Just eyeballed it.
(Otherwise known as District McDistrictface.)
SP, your humor has surpassed us. You may level up now.
I like "The Grid" and "The Circuit". It's basically acknowledging that there's a giant Electrical station there and it's not moving any time soon. That being said, I've seen some people talking about disguising it with plastic trees and whatnot but I think they can embrace it. They should put lighting on it, put up a more artistic fence around it, implement a post-industrial style with any new construction.
My recommendation: DUGBO (down under the Grand bridge overpass)
I tried to think of some names that played off the history of the Grand Viaduct or names that utilized the MetroLink station.
I also think they should include the Missouri Jewelite building in the district. I'd love to see that building be more of STL's Times Square, but inverted (and more neon signs, no LED screens).
I like "The Grid" and "The Circuit". It's basically acknowledging that there's a giant Electrical station there and it's not moving any time soon. That being said, I've seen some people talking about disguising it with plastic trees and whatnot but I think they can embrace it. They should put lighting on it, put up a more artistic fence around it, implement a post-industrial style with any new construction.
My recommendation: DUGBO (down under the Grand bridge overpass)
I tried to think of some names that played off the history of the Grand Viaduct or names that utilized the MetroLink station.
I also think they should include the Missouri Jewelite building in the district. I'd love to see that building be more of STL's Times Square, but inverted (and more neon signs, no LED screens).
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I noticed in the short video from SLU/SSM that they mention a grocery store at the Foundry. Do we know what grocery store? Fields Foods? TJs? Sorry if this has already been discussed. http://www.slu.edu/poll/district-name
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^ I don't think that's been revealed.... iirc the plan is for one of the floors of the Byco Building fronting FPA with the other floor slated for tech/creative office.
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If i had to pick i'll go with The Grid with the industrial feel to the area it fits perfectly also sounds more future & hip/progressive 
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Why not armory district, they already have a logo and everything.
Mill creek district is a good one too.
I hate all their suggested choices. Ugh
Also i think this is unofficial branding like "the loop", not a neighborhood designation, but I tend to think these things have to happen organically.
Mill creek district is a good one too.
I hate all their suggested choices. Ugh
Also i think this is unofficial branding like "the loop", not a neighborhood designation, but I tend to think these things have to happen organically.
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I don't think they absolutely have to happen organically, but it does help. Grand Center took off, even if that was designed by committee. I like Mill Creek Valley, though that would also include most of the planned Chouteau Greenway in my mind, seeing as the actual valley runs all the way to the river. But it's a real feature. I like the electrical ideas. And the paint place did auto paint, right? How about The Transmission District and leave it vague as to what kind? Underbridge might also work, actually. Almost serious there. Cheeky, but distinctive. Foundry is nice and all that, but there's a lot more there. The armory, for instance. A big bridge. A lot of railroad tracks. A creek in a ginormous sewer pipe. Old warehouses. A flappy bird. In neon.
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Dressing up the substation should be a big priority for this district (somewhere behind creating N-S pedestrian connections). Here's a good example from KC's Crossroads District:
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Territory Under Grand Bridge Overpass; Also Trains.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2018How about The Transmission District and leave it vague as to what kind? Underbridge might also work, actually. Almost serious there. Cheeky, but distinctive.
TUGBOAT district.