moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 27, 2017St. Louis Pushes to Meet Amazon’s Desires and Keep Everybody Happy
East-West Gateway Gets Amazon Update
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2017/09/27/ ... happy/amp/
OH SNAP ...LOLThe e-retailer’s preference that proposed sites be served by rail mass transit would seem to rule out St. Charles County, whose voters rejected a MetroLink expansion in 1996.
That's not what I meant at all, sorry if I was unclear. I truly hope the partnership delivers an excellent proposal. I meant that it would be an extra feather in Saint Louis' cap having a community driven proposal/event showing we really want them here, not just the politicians but the people themselves. Something that could set us apart from other cities.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Sep 28, 2017^ ??? i think the proposals that are currently being put together by the STL Eco Devo partnership are a whole lot better than nothing. i think they're actually going to be pretty damn good. not sure why/how you think a random group of urbanstl readers are going to put together something realistic/possible much less better.
On Thursday, however, Kern said "it's appearing pretty clearly to us that partnering with the rest of the St. Louis region is going to be the best way to land Amazon."
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 4b14f.htmlBut the mayor of the metro area's second largest municipality — O'Fallon, Mo.'s Bill Hennessy — said his city probably will send in a proposal on its own to Amazon although a final decision has yet to be made.
Jones also weighed in on the St. Louis region vying to become a headquarters for Amazon, which would bring up to 50,000 jobs with it.
“If it were up to me, Amazon wouldn’t get one red cent of our tax dollars,” Jones said. To be a good “corporate citizen,” the company should move into the AT&T building downtown, which is largely empty, and pay all the taxes in full, she said.
“This is Amazon’s moment to shine,” she said. Franks said that if Amazon selected St. Louis, he would make the company provide jobs from the city’s “economically distressed communities.”
I don't like the idea of giving massive tax breaks to companies but those are the rules of the game. And we need to play to win the game!city_resident wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... c90cf.html
Jones also weighed in on the St. Louis region vying to become a headquarters for Amazon, which would bring up to 50,000 jobs with it.
“If it were up to me, Amazon wouldn’t get one red cent of our tax dollars,” Jones said. To be a good “corporate citizen,” the company should move into the AT&T building downtown, which is largely empty, and pay all the taxes in full, she said.
“This is Amazon’s moment to shine,” she said. Franks said that if Amazon selected St. Louis, he would make the company provide jobs from the city’s “economically distressed communities.”
The city loves giving tax breaks and subsidies to every bullsh*t development, though. Like $19m to a career crook for a supermarket and gas station. Unfortunately, they just aren't as high profile, or the people have become so numb to it that it doesn't even bring debate. Most recently, we're abating a townhouse project in Downtown. I think they're a bit out of touch and are just pushing their own agendas, regardless of the realities and logistics.moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017I don't like the idea of giving massive tax breaks to companies but those are the rules of the game. And we need to play to win the game!city_resident wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... c90cf.html
Jones also weighed in on the St. Louis region vying to become a headquarters for Amazon, which would bring up to 50,000 jobs with it.
“If it were up to me, Amazon wouldn’t get one red cent of our tax dollars,” Jones said. To be a good “corporate citizen,” the company should move into the AT&T building downtown, which is largely empty, and pay all the taxes in full, she said.
“This is Amazon’s moment to shine,” she said. Franks said that if Amazon selected St. Louis, he would make the company provide jobs from the city’s “economically distressed communities.”
They better get their act together and learn how to work regionally and as a team.50k jobs is more than enough for everyone to get their slice of the pie.debaliviere wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Sounds like we're aiming for the most scatterbrained, schizophrenic proposal.
You can when incentives are in play.
Well, just my first thoughts are that they're looking for highly skilled tech jobs.
Programs like LaunchCode and others provided by tech schools and community colleges are going to have to train many people to work at Amazon. Top tech talent will still need to come from outside the area but not all of Amazon's jobs are necessarily tech related. There will be HR, Marketing and other types of non programmer jobs too.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Well, just my first thoughts are that they're looking for highly skilled tech jobs.
I don't think most of those highly skilled tech jobs are going to be coming from disinvested communities. I think an influx of 50,000 high-paid jobs could turn those communities around, though.
Precisely. Thanks for clarifying on the job types they're looking to expand, btw.moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Programs like LaunchCode and others provided by tech schools and community colleges are going to have to train many people to work at Amazon. Top tech talent will still need to come from outside the area but not all of Amazon's jobs are necessarily tech related. There will be HR, Marketing and other types of non programmer jobs too.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Well, just my first thoughts are that they're looking for highly skilled tech jobs.
I don't think most of those highly skilled tech jobs are going to be coming from disinvested communities. I think an influx of 50,000 high-paid jobs could turn those communities around, though.
I don't recall the exact multiplier but 3 is coming to mind. Think of all the new non amazon/service jobs those 50k employees and their families will require. If we land this we could grow by several hundred thousand residents and they're all going to need places to eat, people to cut their hair, invest their money, etc etc etc.
Why does a headquarters need with an airport runway?chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017The biggest chip we have is offering up part of our airport and or a dedicated runway. That is what I think could keep us in the race.
Let's say I'm buying a car at a time when NOBODY else is buying cars at all. Car dealers in my area are giving me crazy great deals on all kinds of cars. I'm probably not going to take a specific car just because I got a large discount on it. I would only do so if I were apathetic about which car to chose or tight on cash (both of which I'm not).
HQ? Nothing... but from a logistics standpoint, where they could break into the transportation industry or really expand upon their freight operations, it could be interesting. St. Louis wants to privatize its airport. Amazon likes expanding into new industries. Could be a unique proposal variable.moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Why does a headquarters need with an airport runway?chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017The biggest chip we have is offering up part of our airport and or a dedicated runway. That is what I think could keep us in the race.
I don't really see the airport angle either.chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017HQ? Nothing... but from a logistics standpoint, where they could break into the transportation industry or really expand upon their freight operations, it could be interesting. St. Louis wants to privatize its airport. Amazon likes expanding into new industries. Could be a unique proposal variable.moorlander wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Why does a headquarters need with an airport runway?chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017The biggest chip we have is offering up part of our airport and or a dedicated runway. That is what I think could keep us in the race.
I didn't say it should or should not be done in any particular case. Just that it can be done as part of an incentive agreement. Local hiring goals are rather common in development agreements.San Luis Native wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2017Let's say I'm buying a car at a time when NOBODY else is buying cars at all. Car dealers in my area are giving me crazy great deals on all kinds of cars. I'm probably not going to take a specific car just because I got a large discount on it. I would only do so if I were apathetic about which car to chose or tight on cash (both of which I'm not).
On top of it, to add a contractual stipulation on my potential purchase of one of these cars which included certain limitations in my use of the car - uses which were very important to me?... Yeah... I can certainly tell you which car I would not be purchasing.
