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PostJul 25, 2017#451

Just an observation. Began a new job this month and have been taking Metrolink daily to and from work (Shrewsbury to CWE and back), and on my way home today I saw the very first St Louis County cop on my train. And there was another county officer at Shrewsbury.

Coming out of hiding, finally?

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PostJul 25, 2017#452



Huh.

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PostJul 25, 2017#453

joelo wrote:
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The state should at least authorize metro to have their own police force. Seems ridiculous that they can't
I could've sworn that I read somewhere that it was actually the FBI (or some other federal agency) that refused to grant Metro's own security the certification to issue citations.

Metro could really use an independent, dedicated, fully-functioning, bi-state police force. At least then they could move away from having to pay other departments to "do" the job that they never should have been prevented from doing in the first place.

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PostJul 25, 2017#454

Email your reps. I emailed multiple Missouri and Illinois reps.


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PostJul 25, 2017#455

I emailed as well. What's infuriating is the County PD is essentially trying to stick its head in the sand and deflect everything now. They got caught and now we have to deal with the whole "CYA" political BS before actual changes occur.

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PostJul 25, 2017#456

Wanted to make note that this morning I was finally fare inspected. This is the first time this has happened on my nearly one month of riding to and from work. Also? A Metro security person (with the yellow vest) was actually standing near the east entrance of the CWE station, asking for riders to show tickets on their way onto the platform.

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PostJul 25, 2017#457

jeffrk wrote:
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Wanted to make note that this morning I was finally fare inspected. This is the first time this has happened on my nearly one month of riding to and from work. Also? A Metro security person (with the yellow vest) was actually standing near the east entrance of the CWE station, asking for riders to show tickets on their way onto the platform.

Jeff
I saw something similar at the Richmond Heights station a few nights back. Good to see security personnel visible.

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PostAug 07, 2017#458

This morning I got casually sniffed by a Malinois (I think) security dog as it walked through the train. Very happy to see the security presence on Metro lately. The odd thing is that it's always in the morning, when there are never the kinds of issues (gambling, drugs, whacked-out weirdos gyrating in the aisle) that you see in the evening, at least on the blue line. I think Metro should let the doggies sleep in and take them out on the evening shift.

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PostAug 07, 2017#459

Agreed. Mornings have been exponentially better, but the evenings are still the same old news.

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PostAug 07, 2017#460

danke0 wrote:
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This morning I got casually sniffed by a Malinois (I think) security dog as it walked through the train. Very happy to see the security presence on Metro lately. The odd thing is that it's always in the morning, when there are never the kinds of issues (gambling, drugs, whacked-out weirdos gyrating in the aisle) that you see in the evening, at least on the blue line. I think Metro should let the doggies sleep in and take them out on the evening shift.
There's nothing worse than getting stuck at work until 6:30pm or so and have to catch the train home. They really need to turn the heat up in the evenings. Patrolling in the morning doesn't do much.
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Agreed. Mornings have been exponentially better, but the evenings are still the same old news.
And the Delmar station is still a party.

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PostAug 07, 2017#461

^Absolutely. Delmar and DeBaliviere are the two stations I primarily use, and both are still like the wild wild west.

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PostAug 09, 2017#462

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danke0 wrote:
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This morning I got casually sniffed by a Malinois (I think) security dog as it walked through the train. Very happy to see the security presence on Metro lately. The odd thing is that it's always in the morning, when there are never the kinds of issues (gambling, drugs, whacked-out weirdos gyrating in the aisle) that you see in the evening, at least on the blue line. I think Metro should let the doggies sleep in and take them out on the evening shift.
There's nothing worse than getting stuck at work until 6:30pm or so and have to catch the train home. They really need to turn the heat up in the evenings. Patrolling in the morning doesn't do much.
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Agreed. Mornings have been exponentially better, but the evenings are still the same old news.
And the Delmar station is still a party.
Well, as usual, public safety resources are allocated to keep suburbanites safe while visiting the city at the expense of residents. This approach has to change. We need more resources allocated to improving quality of life and keeping residents safe.


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PostAug 10, 2017#463

Looks like County Metro Police have started using the East Loop building as a substation. No exterior renovations yet but there were 6-8 cars parked in the lot this morning.

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PostAug 10, 2017#464

chaifetz10 wrote:
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Looks like County Metro Police have started using the East Loop building as a substation. No exterior renovations yet but there were 6-8 cars parked in the lot this morning.
Sounds like Metro needs to install a security camera inside the East Loop building.

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PostAug 11, 2017#465

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Well, as usual, public safety resources are allocated to keep suburbanites safe while visiting the city at the expense of residents. This approach has to change. We need more resources allocated to improving quality of life and keeping residents safe.
Excuse the hell out of me for working downtown while living in the far out exurb of Maplewood and riding public transportation. I'll just shut up and defer to those experts who live downtown because they're the only opinions that matter.

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chaifetz10 wrote:
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Looks like County Metro Police have started using the East Loop building as a substation. No exterior renovations yet but there were 6-8 cars parked in the lot this morning.
Saw two cars there this afternoon. That's encouraging.

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PostAug 11, 2017#467

Ever wonder what role muni police play? We requested clarification from our Clayton PD and here is the official response:


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PostAug 11, 2017#468

dweebe wrote:
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downtown2007 wrote:
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Well, as usual, public safety resources are allocated to keep suburbanites safe while visiting the city at the expense of residents. This approach has to change. We need more resources allocated to improving quality of life and keeping residents safe.
Excuse the hell out of me for working downtown while living in the far out exurb of Maplewood and riding public transportation. I'll just shut up and defer to those experts who live downtown because they're the only opinions that matter.
i think he's just saying resource allocation needs to be more balanced. didn't really seem to me like he was attacking suburban commuters (and I doubt he was thinking of Maplewood anyway).

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bprop wrote:
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chaifetz10 wrote:
Aug 10, 2017
Looks like County Metro Police have started using the East Loop building as a substation. No exterior renovations yet but there were 6-8 cars parked in the lot this morning.
Sounds like Metro needs to install a security camera inside the East Loop building.
yep. have they tinted the windows yet?

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PostAug 13, 2017#470

urban_dilettante wrote:
dweebe wrote:
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downtown2007 wrote:
Aug 09, 2017
Well, as usual, public safety resources are allocated to keep suburbanites safe while visiting the city at the expense of residents. This approach has to change. We need more resources allocated to improving quality of life and keeping residents safe.
Excuse the hell out of me for working downtown while living in the far out exurb of Maplewood and riding public transportation. I'll just shut up and defer to those experts who live downtown because they're the only opinions that matter.
i think he's just saying resource allocation needs to be more balanced. didn't really seem to me like he was attacking suburban commuters (and I doubt he was thinking of Maplewood anyway).
Yep. You can focus all resources on the morning and evening rush while leaving the rest of the day unpoliced.

Kind of goes in line with my experience that police strategies are more concerned with protecting visitors and non-city residents, not city residents.


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PostSep 18, 2017#471

Some kind of entry control being planned at two stations as a pilot project. Yes!

"What’s being discussed, Krewson said, is to take two stations that have different layouts and create barriers on each. It might be a turnstile system or could be something else, she said.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said a pilot program would allow authorities to test how a barrier system would operate and assess the costs and benefits and “see how it’s received” by the public."

http://www.stltoday.com/news/traffic/al ... dee04.html

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PostSep 27, 2017#472

In Amsterdam, the trams have no turnstiles, but they have a sensor that beeps when you touch your ticket card to it just inside the tram door. And a tram official, who rides on the tram, watches. Or you can buy a ticket from him. I'm not sure but I think that official can stop the tram from continuing if he sees someone get on without flashing a valid ticket on the sensor, or buying a ticket from him. But once, we saw a guy get on who was a couple of coins short. The tram official reached into some kind of kitty took out a couple of coins and put them in for him. He was very appreciative.


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PostSep 27, 2017#473

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St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said a pilot program would allow authorities to test how a barrier system would operate and assess the costs and benefits and “see how it’s received” by the public."
I'd perceive it a lot better if the County and CIty PD did the job they were supposed to do first, when Metro didn't have these problems and there was an obvious security and regular police presence. They are being paid but not doing the job. Period. Barriers are a non-issues and nobody would be talking them unless the PD and Metro didn't drop the ball several years ago.

I'm failing to grasp why this is so difficult for our regional leaders.

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bprop wrote:
Sep 27, 2017
danke0 wrote:
Sep 18, 2017


St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said a pilot program would allow authorities to test how a barrier system would operate and assess the costs and benefits and “see how it’s received” by the public."
I'd perceive it a lot better if the County and CIty PD did the job they were supposed to do first, when Metro didn't have these problems and there was an obvious security and regular police presence. They are being paid but not doing the job. Period. Barriers are a non-issues and nobody would be talking them unless the PD and Metro didn't drop the ball several years ago.

I'm failing to grasp why this is so difficult for our regional leaders.
Agreed.

Basically, it'll take years to implement something that could be changed in a matter of months. Why not just take all of the "study" funds and apply them towards new officers who can actually police the Metrolink lines? Why must everything be difficult?

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PostSep 27, 2017#475

gary kreie wrote:
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In Amsterdam, the trams have no turnstiles, but they have a sensor that beeps when you touch your ticket card to it just inside the tram door. And a tram official, who rides on the tram, watches. Or you can buy a ticket from him. I'm not sure but I think that official can stop the tram from continuing if he sees someone get on without flashing a valid ticket on the sensor, or buying a ticket from him. But once, we saw a guy get on who was a couple of coins short. The tram official reached into some kind of kitty took out a couple of coins and put them in for him. He was very appreciative.

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I'm sure it has been mentioned on here before, but Copenhagen doesn't have turnstiles either. A driverless 24 hour system that is (perhaps a bit hyperbolic) stunningly clean. Fast and quiet as well.

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