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PostApr 26, 2017#926

I just did a bit more research, and actually, Centene 2 will be the second tallest building built in the midwest outside of Chicago. I am a bit surprised that we haven't seen more attention given to this project. It's really a massive investment in our region. I'm not sure if many also are aware the amount of other cities and states that tried to lure Centene away. I believe Chicago and Nashville heavily pursued this project.

Edit: Built in the last ten years.***** Not overall. Lmao, should proofread.

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PostApr 26, 2017#927

Chalupas54 wrote:I just did a bit more research, and actually, Centene 2 will be the second tallest building built in the midwest outside of Chicago. I am a bit surprised that we haven't seen more attention given to this project. It's really a massive investment in our region. I'm not sure if many also are aware the amount of other cities and states that tried to lure Centene away. I believe Chicago and Nashville heavily pursued this project.
What? This makes no sense. How? Explain more

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PostApr 26, 2017#928

chriss752 wrote:
Apr 26, 2017
Chalupas54 wrote:I just did a bit more research, and actually, Centene 2 will be the second tallest building built in the midwest outside of Chicago. I am a bit surprised that we haven't seen more attention given to this project. It's really a massive investment in our region. I'm not sure if many also are aware the amount of other cities and states that tried to lure Centene away. I believe Chicago and Nashville heavily pursued this project.
What? This makes no sense. How? Explain more
One Kansas City Place is 624'
Salesforce Tower in Indy is 811'
Great American Tower / Queen City Sq is 660'

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PostApr 26, 2017#929

aprice wrote:
Apr 26, 2017
chriss752 wrote:
Apr 26, 2017
Chalupas54 wrote:I just did a bit more research, and actually, Centene 2 will be the second tallest building built in the midwest outside of Chicago. I am a bit surprised that we haven't seen more attention given to this project. It's really a massive investment in our region. I'm not sure if many also are aware the amount of other cities and states that tried to lure Centene away. I believe Chicago and Nashville heavily pursued this project.
What? This makes no sense. How? Explain more
One Kansas City Place is 624'
Salesforce Tower in Indy is 811'
Great American Tower / Queen City Sq is 660'
I should clarify, built in the last 10 years****

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PostApr 26, 2017#930

^Or folks could just read the thread for context.

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PostApr 27, 2017#931

This will be some added good height in Clayton will help fill the skyline along with the other projects.. Im relieved Centene decided to stay within the St.Louis region but to be honest i don't think Chicago Nashville or any other city had a legit chance of wooing Centene out of St.Louis.. St.Louis and Clayton are very fortunate to have garnered this company when it was very small in Milwaukee.

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PostApr 27, 2017#932

chriss752 wrote:
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My apologies, Chris752 Misunderstood. The numbers on the submitted plans are indeed the place to look. And this is clearly a darned exciting project. Can't wait to see it moving forward in a big way.

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PostMay 27, 2017#933

Looks like the tower crane is ready to go up.

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PostJun 05, 2017#934

Not only is the Phase 1 below ground work pretty dang far to being done, some interesting work also happening in what is the current staging area. There was some core drilling machinery there recently and they've also been doing some earth moving along Carondelet.

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PostJun 06, 2017#935

Phase 2 will be divided up into 2A, 2B, and 2C




PostJun 06, 2017#936

The garage has a new design










PostJun 06, 2017#937

More on the auditorium










PostJun 06, 2017#938

And still more












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PostJun 06, 2017#939

Can anyone make out what the material is on the reddish upper portion of the auditorium?

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PostJun 06, 2017#940

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Can anyone make out what the material is on the reddish upper portion of the auditorium?
I'm guessing some kind of faux wood paneling. They've been using it in renderings since the beginning.
IMO the theater design could be better, but I'm just being picky. I liked where they were going with the earlier smooth outer face, just made a wrong turn somewhere.


The auditorium design alone could really put this project on the map, I wonder if HOK just isn't putting the effort in or if Centene is holding them back.


Also, the new location is much much better.

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PostJun 06, 2017#941

I'm hoping that its some kind of metal. Copper would be awesome.

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PostJun 06, 2017#942

framer wrote:Can anyone make out what the material is on the reddish upper portion of the auditorium?
the TerraCotta looks a lot like this: http://www.terracottachina.com/products ... aQodOCcD9w

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PostJun 06, 2017#943

That new garage design is pretty brutal, with its big monolithic slabs. Definitely a step backward from the (at least somewhat more refined and creative) existing Centene garage.

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PostJun 06, 2017#944

moorlander wrote:
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the TerraCotta looks a lot like this: http://www.terracottachina.com/products ... aQodOCcD9w


Hmmm...sounds promising, I think. I just hope their product is better than their English:

"The terracotta panel is the most popular green energy-saving exterior building material, it’s using natural terracotta as raw material with high-temperature firing, and Thickness is usually between 15mm and 40mm, supported by a variety of aluminum frames.
As China’s leading producer of terracotta panel, we use the global high quality terracotta ore, perfect production process, provide a full range of roofing and wall solutions for customers."

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PostJun 06, 2017#945

Terracotta makes sense with the green roof design. Copper might be more problematic in light of that. also: the terracotta will stay red rather longer than the copper would. I'm curious what it means that they've moved the auditorium to phase two instead of phase three. Does it mean phase three is somewhat less probable now, or that they want to build goodwill first? I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the auditorium, though I wish I could get a better look at it. At a glance it looks like it will actually work, which is nice. Should be a nice little hall. What's the capacity? 1200ish to maybe 1500?

Oh, by the way, apparently this redesign has been coming a goodly while. (Not too surprising given the state of the plans. Those look pretty final.) There was an image that apparently shows the current arrangement in a slightly earlier iteration in the background on a KWMU post in February:


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PostJun 08, 2017#946

I'm finding myself surprisingly intrigued by the new garage design. It's got a sculptural quality that might just work. And I really like the way the glass from the auditorium flows seamlessly right into the garage. Those angular brick massings are pretty cool.

Really, this whole auditorium/garage ensemble looks more like a modern art museum than a garage.





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PostJun 08, 2017#947

They're paying attention. I genuinely believe that they're listening to community feedback and improving their design based on what they hear. You want a better street wall? You think there's too much green space? Boom. Done. I'll bet you the phase three will end up redesigned to better respond to the Metrolink stop. HOK is a damned good firm and I'm remarkably glad they're here in town. They're not as high profile as an SOM or Frank Gehry, but I really believe they're at least as good or maybe better. (I confess, I prefer Obata to Gehry any day of the week. Okay, he's retired and he probably had nothing at all to do with this. I assume. But he's a dang legend. Or at least he should be.)

Anyway . . .

I'm liking how this is shaping up. Yes, the garage seems better scaled now. And more responsive to the neighborhood without being tedious. I hadn't even really thought about that. How does the retail square footage compare to the last iteration?

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PostJun 13, 2017#948

Not necessarily relevant to their new HQ buildings, but news none the less:

http://www.businessinsider.com/centene- ... erStock%29
Centene Corporation said Tuesday is will step into some of the most desperate Obamacare markets to provide much-needed coverage options.

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PostJun 14, 2017#949

Anyone care to post an update on the site progress for us expats?

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