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PostDec 08, 2004#1

I started noticing the "Bike St. Louis" mile markers popping up this Fall. There are also images painted on the roadways showing how to follow the designated bike path. This is all part of a new 20-mile city trail. The trail connects Forest Park to the Arch downtown. It then heads over to Tower Grove Park and back to Forest Park. Phase II is supposed to extend from Tower Grove Park further into South St. Louis. I wish it were a little warmer out. :wink:




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PostDec 09, 2004#2

Great deal! The signage looks VERY quality.



http://www.bikestlouis.com/

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PostDec 09, 2004#3

I like how it tells you how many miles you have to bike. Pretty neato.

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PostDec 15, 2004#4

Does anyone know where I can get more info about this project? A website maybe? Specifically where Phase II is going to go and when it's planned to be completed? (just noticed their website is under construction)



My cousin lives in Soulard and these signs are all along Russell and Grand and it really got me interested in getting a bike and start riding, but these paths don't exsist yet in Southwest City.

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PostFeb 14, 2005#5

olvidarte wrote:Does anyone know where I can get more info about this project? A website maybe?


Just to bring it to everyones attention... http://www.bikestlouis.com is up and running now.

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PostFeb 16, 2005#6

Great deal.

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PostMar 22, 2005#7

I think the Bike St Louis project is a great addition to the city,

along with all the great work done by the folks at TrailNet.



However, be careful when riding north along Memorial Drive -

there are several very hazardous metal gratings with a

design that will allow bike wheels to drop right in. Be on the

lookout for these and if traffic is heavy I'd ride on the

adjacent sidewalk. Just a heads-up if you're riding along

that portion of Bike St Louis.

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PostMar 22, 2005#8

Phase II under planning will more than triple these on-street routes to over 60 miles.



This vast addition would add routes in South City from existing Bike St. Louis routes, Forest Park and Tower Grove Park south and west to River Des Peres and Carondelet Park and in North City from the existing routes north to Penrose, O'Fallon, Fairgrounds Parks and the Riverfront Trail via Old North St. Louis.



And the new routes would finally expand into the County: to Clayton's CDB from Forest Park, and to Shrewsbury MetroLink, Maplewood's town center, and Lemay/Grant's Trail all via new South City routes, and expanded routes on Holly Hills, Christy and River Des Peres.

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PostMar 29, 2005#9

The Great Rivers Greenway District

Cordially invite you to attend

the Celebration and Ribbon Cutting for

BIKE ST. LOUIS, 20 miles of bicycle routes in the City of St. Louis



Wednesday, April 6

11:45 a.m. until 12:15 p.m.

Soldiers? Memorial

108 N. 14th St.

St. Louis, MO 63102



Presented in cooperation with ?Get Hooked on Health?

Please RSVP Glenna Brown, 314-436-7009 or gbrown@greatrivers.info

Guests and Bicycles Welcome!



related links:

<A HREF="http://www.greatrivers.info/">Great Rivers Greenway District</A>

<A HREF="http://www.bikestlouis.com/">BIKE ST. LOUIS</A>

PostNov 23, 2005#10

<A HREF="http://www.westendword.com/moxie/news/n ... ighborhood group wins campaign for extra greenway route</A>

By Kara Krekeler

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2005




A group of residents in the Skinker-DeBaliviere neighborhood found out earlier this month that the Des Peres connector greenway had been given a second life. The Des Peres connector would provide a link in the Centennial Greenway, which would connect Forest Park to Creve Coeur County Park.



<A HREF="http://www.westendword.com/moxie/news/n ... ns-c.shtml">>>> read more</A>

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PostOct 29, 2006#12

Care to provide some details here, since greatrivers.info is, as usual, not responding?

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PostOct 31, 2006#13

Making connections: A grand plan for trails

By Elisa Crouch

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

Sunday, Oct. 15 2006

Two years after painting bicycle lanes and directional markers on 20 miles of

city streets, St. Louis-area leaders have a bigger project in mind.

They're adding bike routes to 57 miles of road stretching from West Florissant

Avenue to Holly Hills Boulevard, and connecting just about every park and

MetroLink stop in between. And a route on Wydown Boulevard will extend from

Forest Park into Clayton. Another will connect to Maplewood via Southwest

Avenue.

Signs designating the new Bike St. Louis routes should be up by spring.

Organizers hope the additional on-street bike paths will help transform St.

Louisans into people who increasingly use two wheels to get around.

"It promotes healthy living," said Alderman Lewis Reed, 6th Ward.

Making connections

The second phase will be an extension of the first, which connects Forest Park

to the Gateway Arch, looping around Lafayette Square and over to Tower Grove

Park. Routes in the northern part of the city will run along streets including

Euclid Avenue, North Vandeventer Avenue, Goodfellow Boulevard and Natural

Bridge Avenue. South of downtown, they'll run along streets including Broadway,

Macklind Avenue, Delor Street, Cherokee Street and Compton Avenue.

Routes will end at MetroLink stations. Bicycles are allowed on trains.

Pavement arrows and signs will mark the new paths, meaning bicyclists and

motorists must share the road. There will be about six miles of dedicated

bicycle lanes. Most city streets are too narrow for more.

"The challenge we always face with the streets in the city is, we don't have a

lot of street width," said Todd Antoine, a senior planner with the Great Rivers

Greenway District, which applied for and received most of the money needed to

do the work. "And we don't take out on-street parking."

Bicyclists say the pavement markers make them feel more welcome on the road,

even though state law already gives them permission to be there. Signs and

pavement markers almost serve as a blessing, they say, reminding motorists that

bicycles deserve to be there, too.

It's hard to say how many more bicycle commuters hit the streets after Bike St.

Louis signs and markers were laid in 2004. But some downtown employers have

added bicycle lockers and showers to accommodate them.

HOK, an architecture firm, is one of them. Bike St. Louis symbols make pedaling

around the city easier, said Tim Gaidis, a senior associate at HOK and a

bicycle commuter.

"The signs are like maps," he said. "When you have the pavement markers, its

like a stripe on the road that says you have permission to be there. A lot of

people don't know that."

About 77 percent of the $685,000 needed to design and mark the second phase

comes from federal grants, Antoine of Great Rivers said. The group works to

connect greenways in St. Charles County, St. Louis and St. Louis County. It

received the money through East-West Gateway Council of Governments. The rest

came from aldermen's ward allocations and Great Rivers.

Getting city funds for the project received full aldermanic support, Reed said.

"It helps paint St. Louis as an urban environment that's on the move," he said.

Rack 'em up

Still, the region has a ways to go if leaders hope to catch Chicago or Madison,

Wis. - cities that regularly rank high among bicycle-friendly cities.

In St. Louis, bicyclists complain that motorists honk at them simply because

they're on the road. Also, there's a shortage of bike racks.

If bike routes ever connect St. Louis and St. Louis County with St. Charles

County and cities in the Metro East area, riders will certainly need a place to

park.

The St. Louis Regional Bicycle Federation hopes to chip away at the rack

shortage. The organization recently received a $40,000 grant, and will put in

$10,000 of its own money, to get more racks in the ground, said Bob Foster, a

member of the federation.

Is St. Louis bicycle-friendly? Foster, who rides to work on Clayton Road, says

it's getting better.

"Bike St. Louis has moved us a long way toward that," he said.

ecrouch@post-dispatch.com 314-340-8119

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PostNov 19, 2007#14

I noticed the markings on the pavement for the latest expansion started to be painted last week. The signs are not up yet, but I assume those are coming soon.

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PostNov 20, 2007#15

I'll definitely be hitting this next summer. Looks like I'll have to get one of those nerdy bike-seats for my son! :lol:

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PostNov 20, 2007#16

^ nothin' nerdy about being a dad!



I like the signage - sometimes it's surprising that you're only 1mi from the Botanical Garden or 0.5mi from Forest Park. IMO - it makes the city feel a lot smaller. I'm not really a fan of bike lanes, but the signage and routes are cool.

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PostNov 20, 2007#17

I notice they haven't updated the website in a while. I've had a copy of the new routes for sometime, but the map can't be released until it's complete. Most of the system will be marked with signs, though some dedicated bike lanes will be added to parts of Natural Bridge and Euclid. Most importantly it will connect to MetroLink stops in the County like Clayton, Forsyth, and Shrewsbury(technically City). It will be pretty exciting once it's complete.

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PostNov 20, 2007#18

awesome news!

however, I think bike routes without bike lanes is almost pointless. The signs that point you to places of interest w/ mileage markers is nice, but this isn't something only bicyclists would use...also pedestrians & motorists alike.

If I'm biking, I'll take any road I feel most safe on. Little signs that are probably ignored by motorists don't make me feel any safer. The actual bike lanes are great. Their safeness over riding mixed w/ traffic is debatable, but at least it is more of a visual cue to motorists and will raise greater awareness of bicyclists.



Brickandmortar-- leak the map! of the 57 miles for phase II, what would you say is the percentage is actual bike lanes (or # of miles)?

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PostNov 20, 2007#19

Some of the added miles in "Phase II" are already striped with bike lanes and have been for years, like Holly Hills, Christy and South Broadway. Along such streets, the only addition is wayfinding signage.

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PostNov 20, 2007#20

kc_visiter wrote:




Brickandmortar-- leak the map! of the 57 miles for phase II, what would you say is the percentage is actual bike lanes (or # of miles)?


It's too big to scan. Including the existing dedicated bike lanes in Phase 2, I'd estimate 10%.

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PostNov 21, 2007#21

i guess i should stop by my old office this week and pick up a copy as well. i didn't have a hand in putting it together, but i know the person that did. i had one for myself, but it did not make it moving from three different places in less then a year.

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PostNov 21, 2007#22

"The challenge we always face with the streets in the city is, we don't have a

lot of street width
," said Todd Antoine, a senior planner with the Great Rivers

Greenway District, which applied for and received most of the money needed to

do the work.



i always saw this as a good thing...

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PostNov 21, 2007#23

^ Yep.



For the record, I hate bike lanes. What they tell drivers is that bikes should be no where on the street other than in special little lanes. They're also rarely cleaned - generally in the debris edge of the road. IMO - bicycles belong on the road with cars - though I always cringe when I some somebody riding their freakin' bike down FPP between Kingshighway and Union - WFT! :shock:

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PostNov 21, 2007#24

There is ample width if you narrow travel lanes. Ironically, why the City installed bike lanes on streets like Holly Hills years ago was largely to prevent motorists from treating the excessively wide travel lane as two lanes. Now Phase II of Bike St. Louis can add more bike lanes on similarly wide streets such as Natural Bridge. But why stop there?



Studies have shown that roads at slower speeds, and really no City arterial should be over 35mph, have virtually no difference in capacity or safety when lanes where striped either 10' or 12' wide (on four-lane streets). No wonder then that streets like Holly Hills with lanes over 15-feet wide were being misused by motorists, since a parking lane itself is only 7-8' wide.



4-5' bike lanes (6' if adjacent to parking) could be easily restriped on many streets by narrowing lanes or reducing lanes. Two-way left-turn lanes don't even belong in urban environments as they enable multiple driveway conflicts in what should be a pedestrian-oriented environment. Since a two-way left-turn lane is a minimum of 10' wide, you get two 5'-plus bike lanes just from eliminating such suburban road striping.



Finally, bike lanes should only apply to high-volume arterials, not low-speed side streets. Generally speaking, if you can do without a double yellow center line on a street, you can easily do without bike lanes.

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PostNov 22, 2007#25

Personally, riding on major streets scares the bajeezus out of me. I prefer dedicated bike trails, or small residential streets. I find them much more interesting, too, which keeps me riding longer. It's also a great way to discover hidden gems around town.

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