I posted about this in the Indy thread, but maybe it would have been more appropriate to post here. After a weekend in Indy I was absolutely amazed at their biking infrastructure: separated lanes and trails, extremely functional bike share infrastructure, and you actually see a ton of people biking! Night and day compared to St. Louis.
There wasn't parking there initially when the lane was built. It's in improvement from this, yes. Now cars only occupy half the bike lane instead of all of it.STLinCHI wrote: ↑Nov 11, 2020How could it be striped differently? You'd have to eliminate parking. Don't think that works with the businesses on this block relying on the street parking to deliver customers.eee123 wrote: ↑Nov 10, 2020Why are we still building bike lanes like this? Half the lane is unusable door zone. The other half probably puts you less than three feet from passing cars.
It was defensible when we had a non-cyclist making decisions out of ignorance. But now the same garbage bike infrastructure continues with a cyclist overseeing it.
My point is, when do we move on from thanking policy makers for providing whatever scraps of lane they can find to actually creating usable bike lanes that you would bike in with your kid, your elderly mother or just somebody who's not an experienced cyclist. That's what is separating us from good cycling cities. We don't care to make it safe.
^ Yep, the painted lanes are better than nothing. However, as someone who would like to cycle around but has little experience doing so, no way in hell am I biking in lanes not separated from traffic. I've lived around here long enough to see how people drive without repercussions. I understand doing more costs more, but to me the painted lanes don't entice any additional users.
Nextstl - Community Mobility Committee Seeks Members and Community Input
https://nextstl.com/2021/03/community-m ... ity-input/
https://nextstl.com/2021/03/community-m ... ity-input/
Looking at the list of members, disappointing to see only two residents. The usual cast of organizational representatives- wonder how many of them live in the City or experience mobility outside of a car...
- 9,674
I know a lot of those people- most are also city residents. Most are in alternative mobility positions at their jobs. Actually attended the first meeting on March 11. They’re still taking applications for members and it is open to non city residents because as you may know the city county line isn’t a an actual boarder and plenty of non city residents work here
Regionalism is great and all but the nextstl article noted it was a city committee dealing with mobility. Didn’t realize they would be discussing Clayton and Maplewood as well ( sarcasm)dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2021I know a lot of those people- most are also city residents. Most are in alternative mobility positions at their jobs. Actually attended the first meeting on March 11. They’re still taking applications for members and it is open to non city residents because as you may know the city county line isn’t a an actual boarder and plenty of non city residents work here
Not that people from the county don’t have good intensions but unless you’re actually dealing with buckling sidewalks and inhumane intersections, there is a certain understanding of city neighborhoods you will not bring to the table.
- 9,674
There is no discussion on Clayton or Maplewood but there is discussion about which routes the people from the county that do work in the City come in if they are walking or biking.
The Tucker cycle-track was awarded a $1.1 million federal grant today, moving it closer to construction. LOL at the comments...
^lol Chesterfield suburbanites angry at much needec bicycle infrastructure investment downtown
- 9,674
Next step is getting this constructed this year instead of 2023 (that’s where the $900k in fed funds is at) it can be done. The city has to just move forward and get plans delivered and ask EWG to move it up, EWG is always managing delays of other projects so it shouldn’t be an issue to slid this up to FY22 (oct 1 2021) if it’s ready to go.
- 337
Those comments are by people that come to downtown what once? Twice a month? Lol
The stretch of tucker between chouteau and wash ave is a mess of lanes and turn lanes that could be reconfigured to better suit traffic. The ROW is what 100-120 feet right now? That is plenty of space for sidewalk, trees, parking, cycle track, two lanes both ways and center median. Plus all the crosswalk and signal changes would be a huge help to make it more pedestrian friendly as well.
The stretch of tucker between chouteau and wash ave is a mess of lanes and turn lanes that could be reconfigured to better suit traffic. The ROW is what 100-120 feet right now? That is plenty of space for sidewalk, trees, parking, cycle track, two lanes both ways and center median. Plus all the crosswalk and signal changes would be a huge help to make it more pedestrian friendly as well.
While I'd usually say that just because there's space for a bike lane doesn't mean it's the best place for a bike lane (e.g. Olive St vs Locust between Jefferson and Grand), this is actually perfect. I used to take 18th street because I felt like I'd get murdered on the Tucker viaduct. Crossing the train tracks is a huge barrier between south city and downtown. This path is necessary and well placed.
- 2,663
Cursed Bikes and Coffee is opening a second location adjacent to the about to reopen A&M Cycle shop of Morganford. This makes two bike themed coffee shops in one business district.
Hopefully the neighborhood can continue to synergize around its biking culture. Hopefully through the use of paint or textures they can extend the Tower Grove bike highway through the park to terminate at Morganford.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hopefully the neighborhood can continue to synergize around its biking culture. Hopefully through the use of paint or textures they can extend the Tower Grove bike highway through the park to terminate at Morganford.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not St. Louis, but funny, interesting and sad at the same time. Chicago by Wrigley Field this weekend after lots of people wrode Divvy rentals to the Cards/Cubs game.
Streetsblog - The Bikes That Last Four Months
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2021/12/29/ ... ur-months/
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2021/12/29/ ... ur-months/
St. Louis aldermen advance new bike lanes, Compton Bridge rebuild
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/health- ... ge-rebuild
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/health- ... ge-rebuild
The cost of the projects is covered by federal grants and required local matching funds. Barring any delays, work on the bike lanes should be finished by 2024. The Compton Bridge will take a bit longer.
KMOV - St. Louis looks to extend bike path downtown
https://www.kmov.com/news/st-louis-look ... 3f701.html
https://www.kmov.com/news/st-louis-look ... 3f701.html
Nextstl - E-biking in St. Louis: Stories from E-bike Commuters and Store Owners
https://nextstl.com/2022/04/e-biking-in ... re-owners/
https://nextstl.com/2022/04/e-biking-in ... re-owners/
NextSTL - Missouri Continues to Drop in National Bicycle Ranking - Here's How We Can Get Back on Track
https://nextstl.com/2022/06/missouri-co ... -on-track/
https://nextstl.com/2022/06/missouri-co ... -on-track/
Wallstreet Journal looks like it posted an interesting online article on cycle tracks but behind paywall. From what I can read and take from the title it probably goes into how networks and or where you go to matter when it comes to any means of travel.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/heres-your ... eatst_pos5
https://www.wsj.com/articles/heres-your ... eatst_pos5
StlToday - Shifting gears: St. Louis cyclists join trend toward electric bikes
https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/shi ... -top-story
https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/shi ... -top-story
Not St. Louis but worth noting.
Last night in Chicago a biking group helped people cross Lake Shore Drive at Balbo to show the rampant red light running after a biker was recently killed
So the Chicago police responded by giving LDS cars a solid green for 8-10 minutes.
Last night in Chicago a biking group helped people cross Lake Shore Drive at Balbo to show the rampant red light running after a biker was recently killed
So the Chicago police responded by giving LDS cars a solid green for 8-10 minutes.
