You mean 1500 S Grand?
Don't see a demo permit
Doesn't SLU's Chapter 353 status mean it doesn't need preservation review? That's why the Pevely came down.
It's a miracle it's lasted as long as it has considering its ownership and location. Such a shame. Every time I pass by it I wonder how it has managed to survive the SLUplow for so long.
A guy works in the neighboring two floor building and he said that SSM came over a few weeks ago and told them that demolition would commence this summer.
quincunx wrote:
You mean 1500 S Grand?
Don't see a demo permit
Doesn't SLU's Chapter 353 status mean it doesn't need preservation review? That's why the Pevely came down.
yes, 1500. I was looking on google maps and 1501 came up (which incidentally has a demo permit from 2011)
I'm not quite sure that it's coming down quite yet; AFAIK, the chain link stuff that's up is because the building suffered some pretty bad damage to its facade during that big storm last month, which sent a lot of bricks and roofing falling, including a bunch in the back into our parking lot. The part of our parking lot adjacent to the building also has that temporary chain link fencing up, but it's mainly there to prevent accidental damage to cars until they can finish assessing the damage (there's been a whole bunch of people around looking at/around the building the last month or so) and shore it up until SSM moves on with whatever they have planned for the building. FWIW, the guy from SSM only said they want to tear it down soon-ish for parking since the building is in pretty rough shape internally, but aren't being incredibly fast on pulling the trigger because of the immense ($1 million+) demo cost and other considerations (asbestos issues essentially mean that they'd have to tear it down piece by piece, since it basically touches another building - there's only ~2 inches separating the two).
KansasCitian wrote:
I will be pretty darn disappointed if SLU knocks this building down.
Surely, if they do, they will build something in its place? This is just down the street from where they are developing Iron Hill.
Are they trying to promote urbanity or not?
"Surely...they will build something in its place". Is SLU "trying to promote urbanity or not"?
Are those remarks facetious or are you serious?
There's been all this talk around here that now with Biondi gone they're turning over a new leaf. It may be wrong, but there's at least some visual demonstration suggesting it. One can hope. But . . . their preservation track record is the definition of abysmal.
^As are their architecture, design, and urban planning track records.
On the plus side, SLU is second-to-none in terms of stimulating the demolition, asphalt laying, and grass cutting industries in our fair city.
What is the visual demonstration suggesting that SLU is turning over a new leaf? Proof positive that it has not would be this building coming down for a parking lot, or for anything really.
This has been in the works for a few years now as SSM want's to build out a larger Cardinal Glennon Campus... while this may have flown under the radar, we have known about it for at least a year:
This is what happens when you let private developers plan your city. St. Louis has not taken any proactive steps to create a city wide form based code or zoning standards. It's an absolute joke.
Someone smarter than I can confirm, but I don’t think it really changes anything because SLU can approve the demo for SSM. Don’t forget that SLU now has a minor ownership stake in SSM St. Louis as part of the larger SLU hospital and academic affiliation deals. So they’re really already working hand in hand on this.
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