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Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 15, 2025

Here’s a report that’s pre Trump, from 2024. Published by the government itself. By their definition of fraud it’s estimated at 3%-7% of spending or up to $521B annually. Let’s be intellectually honest and acknowledge fraud exists in an operation with the size and complexity of the Federal Government.

Is Trump going to leave the government in a better place following DOGE? Of course not.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105 ... _recommend

Back to debating for the fascist apologist. This borderline fascist apology from you.

I haven't denied or confirmed the existence for fraud. All I did was ask what DOGE found. Which appears to be nothing since he has refused to provide it.

You can’t explain at all how I’m debating or defending fascism. You’re just throwing around the term like you just learned what it means. I wish I could’ve had a productive discussion with someone how I think is misguided on things like DOGE and tariffs. Could’ve made some progress, but you just blow up the conversation with personal attacks like always.

Dude you said "We'll see. Cheers," after saying that you hope his delusional view of what's happening is what is actually happening even though you know it's delusional. You made no progress, he felt like he won your "debate".

And now you're trying to provide evidence for his argument of fraud that he has refused to provide- for literally no reason at all.

You're a frog in boiling water. People are being kidnapped off the street by ICE and sent to a slave camps in El Salvador, never to be seen again. The government is blatantly ignoring the Supreme Court. The economic policy and rhetoric aligns exactly with fascist economics. And here you are, saying "well, we all agree that there's fraud and waste in the government" and don't even realize you're playing right into their narrative.

https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/ ... -taxpayers

Auggie wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote:
Back to debating for the fascist apologist. This borderline fascist apology from you.

I haven't denied or confirmed the existence for fraud. All I did was ask what DOGE found. Which appears to be nothing since he has refused to provide it.

You can’t explain at all how I’m debating or defending fascism. You’re just throwing around the term like you just learned what it means. I wish I could’ve had a productive discussion with someone how I think is misguided on things like DOGE and tariffs. Could’ve made some progress, but you just blow up the conversation with personal attacks like always.

Dude you said "We'll see. Cheers," after saying that you hope his delusional view of what's happening is what is actually happening even though you know it's delusional. You made no progress, he felt like he won your "debate".

And now you're trying to provide evidence for his argument of fraud that he has refused to provide- for literally no reason at all.

You're a frog in boiling water. People are being kidnapped off the street by ICE and sent to a slave camps in El Salvador, never to be seen again. The government is blatantly ignoring the Supreme Court. The economic policy and rhetoric aligns exactly with fascist economics. And here you are, saying "well, we all agree that there's fraud and waste in the government" and don't even realize you're playing right into their narrative.

https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/ ... -taxpayers

You left out that the White House has endorsed Russian propaganda (anti-vax, anti-GMO, and anti-seed oil) and appointed a Russian asset (Tulsi Gabbard) to run our intelligence bureaus.

Auggie wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote: Back to debating for the fascist apologist. This borderline fascist apology from you.

I haven't denied or confirmed the existence for fraud. All I did was ask what DOGE found. Which appears to be nothing since he has refused to provide it.

You can’t explain at all how I’m debating or defending fascism. You’re just throwing around the term like you just learned what it means. I wish I could’ve had a productive discussion with someone how I think is misguided on things like DOGE and tariffs. Could’ve made some progress, but you just blow up the conversation with personal attacks like always.

I also didn't personally attack him. If you use your eyes and go look at how this started, I asked him to show me the fraud and asserted that he doesn't pay attention based on what type of sh*t he spews. I also posted both after you already lost your little "debate" with him by saying "Chreers."

You started interacting with me for some reason that I can't explain. I never wanted to talk to you, but you felt the need to defend the fascism apologist for some reason.

Saying cheers to someone after they say it to you is not losing a debate. We had a pretty brief back and forth and agreed to disagree. You don’t have to burn everything to the ground every time you disagree with someone here. That’s why you’re not liked here.

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

You can’t explain at all how I’m debating or defending fascism. You’re just throwing around the term like you just learned what it means. I wish I could’ve had a productive discussion with someone how I think is misguided on things like DOGE and tariffs. Could’ve made some progress, but you just blow up the conversation with personal attacks like always.

I also didn't personally attack him. If you use your eyes and go look at how this started, I asked him to show me the fraud and asserted that he doesn't pay attention based on what type of sh*t he spews. I also posted both after you already lost your little "debate" with him by saying "Chreers."

You started interacting with me for some reason that I can't explain. I never wanted to talk to you, but you felt the need to defend the fascism apologist for some reason.

Saying cheers to someone after they say it to you is not losing a debate. We had a pretty brief back and forth and agreed to disagree. You don’t have to burn everything to the ground every time you disagree with someone here. That’s why you’re not liked here.

I don't need to burn it down because it's already burnt down because the fire department (Democrats and liberals) have been busy trying to find common ground with the fire.

You know they’re loving the opportunity to go full dictator on Hitler’s birthday. I’d wager they knew that going in which is why they arbitrarily chose 90 days. Why not 30, 45, 60, 120?

They’ve been leaving little disguised messages like this for the neo-Nazi portion of MAGA since day 1.

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

You can’t explain at all how I’m debating or defending fascism. You’re just throwing around the term like you just learned what it means. I wish I could’ve had a productive discussion with someone how I think is misguided on things like DOGE and tariffs. Could’ve made some progress, but you just blow up the conversation with personal attacks like always.

Dude you said "We'll see. Cheers," after saying that you hope his delusional view of what's happening is what is actually happening even though you know it's delusional. You made no progress, he felt like he won your "debate".

And now you're trying to provide evidence for his argument of fraud that he has refused to provide- for literally no reason at all.

You're a frog in boiling water. People are being kidnapped off the street by ICE and sent to a slave camps in El Salvador, never to be seen again. The government is blatantly ignoring the Supreme Court. The economic policy and rhetoric aligns exactly with fascist economics. And here you are, saying "well, we all agree that there's fraud and waste in the government" and don't even realize you're playing right into their narrative.

https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/ ... -taxpayers

You left out that the White House has endorsed Russian propaganda (anti-vax, anti-GMO, and anti-seed oil) and appointed a Russian asset (Tulsi Gabbard) to run our intelligence bureaus.

What is the left's fascination with Russia? These conspiracy theories are wild.

We are talking about the country with worlds largest nuclear arsenal all of which is pointed at the United States, right?

Tim Poole and right wing podcasters are literally accepting money from the Kremlin.

https://www.thenation.com/article/socie ... ers/tnamp/

Tucker Carlson basically moved there.

The right is so brainwashed that they don’t know an enemy when it’s looking them in the face.

I'm old enough to remember when Mitt Romney said in a 2012 presidential debate that Russia was our biggest threat.

flipz wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Dude you said "We'll see. Cheers," after saying that you hope his delusional view of what's happening is what is actually happening even though you know it's delusional. You made no progress, he felt like he won your "debate".

And now you're trying to provide evidence for his argument of fraud that he has refused to provide- for literally no reason at all.

You're a frog in boiling water. People are being kidnapped off the street by ICE and sent to a slave camps in El Salvador, never to be seen again. The government is blatantly ignoring the Supreme Court. The economic policy and rhetoric aligns exactly with fascist economics. And here you are, saying "well, we all agree that there's fraud and waste in the government" and don't even realize you're playing right into their narrative.

https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/ ... -taxpayers

You left out that the White House has endorsed Russian propaganda (anti-vax, anti-GMO, and anti-seed oil) and appointed a Russian asset (Tulsi Gabbard) to run our intelligence bureaus.

What is the left's fascination with Russia? Conspiracy these theories are wild.

What's the [people I don't like] fascination with [an authoritarian country who has been interfering in western elections]? [Confirmed stories about election interference and imperialist actions] are so wild.

Auggie wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Auggie wrote: I also didn't personally attack him. If you use your eyes and go look at how this started, I asked him to show me the fraud and asserted that he doesn't pay attention based on what type of sh*t he spews. I also posted both after you already lost your little "debate" with him by saying "Chreers."

You started interacting with me for some reason that I can't explain. I never wanted to talk to you, but you felt the need to defend the fascism apologist for some reason.

Saying cheers to someone after they say it to you is not losing a debate. We had a pretty brief back and forth and agreed to disagree. You don’t have to burn everything to the ground every time you disagree with someone here. That’s why you’re not liked here.

I don't need to burn it down because it's already burnt down because the fire department (Democrats and liberals) have been busy trying to find common ground with the fire.

I don’t understand these weird analogies you keep posting, but ok. I am not trying to find common ground on an idea like DOGE or Trumps approach to tariffs, which I disagree with.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑

Apr 16, 2025

Thank you, legendrey.  It's nice to see someone else acknowledge Auggie's Chat GPT generated insanity. 

It would be like WOTA to agree with a fascism apologist who doesn't understand logic

Like a hand and glove.

The only thing legendry and I agree on is that you suck at getting people to listen because you’re always jumping up and down while screaming in their face.

Rent free in your head

The Remarkable Revival of America’s Heartland—and Whether It Can Last Hermann, Mo
https://www.barrons.com/articles/america-economy-recovery-heartland-2194730b

Trump administration is now very close to abandoning its most important foreign policy promise to American voters. That was fast.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/u ... index.html

JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑

Apr 26, 2025

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑

Nov 06, 2024

Now the country needs to start attempting to unite a little bit more now. If all people want to do it fight each other moving forward, keep doing so. But most voters are tired of that sort of thing and want to move on.

Are you uniting around the FBI terrorizing judges Chris?

https://apnews.com/article/immigration- ... 2347e631f6

NobOdY's AbOve tHe LAw.

-Dipshits

Should she have been arrested for helping a wanted suspect evade arrest? Yes, of course.

Should the arrest have happened in a show-boating manner at the courthouse? No, of course not.

There you go: Middle ground.

Middle ground: Federal agents are allowed to terrorize members of the other political branches. Nice.

***** banana republic.

It’s nice to know that our allies can bring this orange felon to heel by simply liquidating some of our 10 yr notes

and now for another take: The media, from the WSJ to the NY Times, across the political spectrum, the blogosphere, the social media, ALL of them have been LYING to Americans about the tariffs from day one, bombarding them with bulls**t and lies and braindead idiocies, ceaselessly fearmongering, every day all day long, in their efforts to sacrifice everything, including the entire US economy, at the altar of high stock prices, fat corporate profit margins, and one-sided globalization. I have never seen anything like that. No wonder everyone is in a sour mood and all the soft data is sh*tty. But there is an economic reality out there: businesses trying to make their businesses work, and consumers making records amounts of money and spending it, and having fun.  https://wolfstreet.com/2025/04/29/despite-all-moaning-and-groaning-layoffs-discharges-plunge-hires-voluntary-quits-rise-driven-by-private-sector-strength/#comments