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Take a look at this growth at their new inland port Outside KC. Would love to see a public /private partnership like that here.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/07/09/t ... airie.html

How is $1,700,000,000 in federal transportation dollars (does not include state/local) spent by in the STL region (only MO side of East West Gateway) over the next 4 years? 
63.7% for road/bridge system preservation 
15.5% on roadway safety 
9.5% transit 
4% roadway system expansion 
3.7% debt 
3.6% other

Where dat metrolink expansion money at?

danke0 wrote:As I see it, the problem with the "Don't get hit!" thing is that it puts the onus on pedestrians and contributes to the attitude of inattention on the part of motorists, who barely pay attention to anything as it is. It seems to treat vehicle traffic like a natural phenomenon, like a river, which removes responsibility from the individual motorists that make it up.

A few suggestions for the SaveMOLives campaign, directed at motorists:
Turning right? LOOK right!
Wait until there are no persons, bicycles, or other soft objects directly in front of your vehicle before proceeding through the intersection.

And because this is the reality in which we live, and motorists had better just get used to it:
Watch out for zombies! (They're people too.)
This last one could have a humorous depiction of a mobile-phone-staring zombie shuffling across the road.

On the positive side, the 10th street on-ramp to 64 west is closed, which has stopped (for now) drivers using 10th between Walnut and Clark as a place to get up to highway speed.

I'm all for the pedestrian signs. But both drivers and pedestrians need to be reminded, so there should be corresponding road signs that hold drivers accountable as well.

Regardless of who's fault it is, the pedestrian always loses so any reminder to look up from a phone and look out for yourself is fine with me.


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dbInSouthCity wrote: How is $1,700,000,000 in federal transportation dollars (does not include state/local) spent by in the STL region (only MO side of East West Gateway) over the next 4 years? 
63.7% for road/bridge system preservation 
15.5% on roadway safety 
9.5% transit 
4% roadway system expansion 
3.7% debt 
3.6% other

Curious if you know where the $6.7 million for adding capacity in St. Louis City would be going too?  

Would that be a freeway lane/lane extension somewhere in the city or maybe the rebuilt Jeff Ave interchange as part of the 22nd street parkway removal.  The amount is not huge by any stretch in adding lanes somewhere but makes sense for Fed share for adding a freeway interchange on/off ramp.  Jeff Ave is what I could think of.  Otherwise, can't think of anything else unless their is another interchange project within the city

dredger wrote:

dbInSouthCity wrote: How is $1,700,000,000 in federal transportation dollars (does not include state/local) spent by in the STL region (only MO side of East West Gateway) over the next 4 years? 
63.7% for road/bridge system preservation 
15.5% on roadway safety 
9.5% transit 
4% roadway system expansion 
3.7% debt 
3.6% other

Curious if you know where the $6.7 million for adding capacity in St. Louis City would be going too?  

Would that be a freeway lane/lane extension somewhere in the city or maybe the rebuilt Jeff Ave interchange as part of the 22nd street parkway removal.  The amount is not huge by any stretch in adding lanes somewhere but makes sense for Fed share for adding a freeway interchange on/off ramp.  Jeff Ave is what I could think of.  Otherwise, can't think of anything else unless their is another interchange project within the city

It’s probably the new ramps for Jefferson interchange to covert it to full since it’s just off east and on west right now

^ I have a tough time seeing what infrastructure projects within the city you could be viable under a PPP.  They tend to be large and heavily tolled projects such as bridges and freeways.   Heck, you wonder how much legitimate private interest their is for privatizing Lambert outside a bunch of consultants getting a nice paycheck to tell alderman what they want to hear.

I think the city would be much better off putting together a bond measure to make street/sidewalk and BRT/transit improvement as well as relocate some individuals within the city in order to rip up some underutilized infrastructure & land bank under new form based code.   The financing mechanism under a bond measure might be better & more competitive for the city to get the best interest rates and therefore less costly than going all in on a specific PPP.  Someone with a lot better idea how financing works can tell me differently or not 

I am unaware of the city's direction with PPP's when it comes to addressing infrastructure in its entirety; however, when it comes to public transportation we are starting to see it become a useful tool to addressing large transit projects, specifically as it pertains to the region's light rail system. For example, the Cortex MetroLink Station is a prime model for PPP to fund public transportation infrastructure. Project partners committed more than $5 million dollars to put with a $10.3 million Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery (TIGER) grant from the Federal Transit Administration. Metro Transit is currently working with private partners to make significant enhancements at the Central West End MetroLink Station as well. Going forward, Metro Transit will need to work strategically with the private sector in order to attract and solidify federal investment.

^ I think you might see something similar to get an at grade Grand and Forest Parkway if SLU would put some weight and dollars behind it. 

But I still limited roles in what is being accomplished this way as you got some very specifics examples involving one of the biggest institutions being self serving as well.   Their is a big difference once you start talking projects outside of the central corridor whether it be the projects you noted or civic endeavors towards well establish St. Louis icons/parks such a Forest Park Forever, Arch Grounds & Gateway Mall.   Even then, 22nd interchange rebuild/west downtown and forthcoming Jeff Ave street improvements are still good old straight up tax funded projects or involve the likes of TIFS, other tax redirections.

I've asked and provided ideas to Marlene Davis on the I-64/FPP/Grand ***** and she just pointed me to a variety of other people.  And this was after like 4 follow up's to no responses.  It's as if most of them don't even believe in doing their jobs.

"Our traffic commissioner is working on studies and seeking funding in partnership with the Board of Public Service for the Grand/Forest Park/I-64.

Our street department works with state, federal and local governments

Feel free to contact any of the and share your simple solutions to remedy your concerns. Thanks"

So, I ask, has anyone heard rumblings of any of these traffic studies?

sc4mayor wrote: Pretty good read on the Hyperloop concept here:

https://jalopnik.com/theres-no-such-thi ... 1837979096

Definitely sounds like a big scam.

Missouri is struggling quiet pathetically to get IDs ready for domestic air travel. 

I just don't think this will ever happen, at least anytime soon. There's very little foresight coming out of Jeff. City. 

I'm also not sure you'd want the gen-1 model of something like this, anyway.

KansasCitian wrote: Missouri is struggling quiet pathetically to get IDs ready for domestic air travel. 

I just don't think this will ever happen, at least anytime soon. There's very little foresight coming out of Jeff. City. 

I got mine in less than a week when I signed up for it. My wife got hers even quicker. What issue are they having?

Also I have heard that at least some DMVs are not issuing the new Real IDs unless they are explicitly requested by those renewing theirs. Whether this is a cost cutting measure or just incompetence I couldn't say.

Ebsy wrote: Also I have heard that at least some DMVs are not issuing the new Real IDs unless they are explicitly requested by those renewing theirs. Whether this is a cost cutting measure or just incompetence I couldn't say.

They don't want to be seen as pushing The Devil's Mark onto people.

^ and ^^: There is a bit of fear of big government driving that but also I would assume if someone does not show up with the documents required, they just default to providing a standard driver's license rather than asking if the individual wants/needs a Real ID.

Black02AltimaSE wrote:^ and ^^: There is a bit of fear of big government driving that but also I would assume if someone does not show up with the documents required, they just default to providing a standard driver's license rather than asking if the individual wants/needs a Real ID.

That sounds similar to what people had mentioned.

I recently just got my Missouri license and was very surprised that the question was even asked if I wanted a regular ID vs the Real ID. I suppose there will be some people that will never fly on a plane the rest of their lives but just seems silly to even have the two options.

cueball19826 wrote:I recently just got my Missouri license and was very surprised that the question was even asked if I wanted a regular ID vs the Real ID. I suppose there will be some people that will never fly on a plane the rest of their lives but just seems silly to even have the two options.

I am guessing that paranoid lawmakers would have never agreed on issuing the Real ID if the Regular ID wasn't an option.

Accidentally posted this in the Metro Safety thread yesterday. Meant to post it here:

There's change coming to the Bi-State Development Board with a new Illinois law coming into effect giving St. Clair County four seats on the ten person board. Madison County is reduced to just one seat on a permanent basis. Previously, the two counties each had two permanent seats with a fifth being passed back and forth as terms ended. Both Missouri and Illinois have five seats each on the ten person board.

Pritzker and St. Clair County's Chairman Kern view it as being equitable in terms of Illinois seat allotment since Madison County isn't apart of Bi-State (Madison County operates Madison County Transit), but St. Louis County Executive Page is viewing it as a power grab. St. Louis City and County have a similar rotating relationship in terms of that remaining fifth seat similarly to how St. Clair County and Madison County used to operate.

As for the other players, Mayor Krewson seems indifferent and Madison County Board Chairman Prenzler views it as a power grab from Madison County, but also has no comment on Page's concerns.

You can read more here:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 0c581.html