There are a couple of gyms Downtown. There is the YMCA about a block away from you at the Ventana and there's Golds about 10 blocks away from you. Both are within walking distance.
...and a "mystery" gym is in development in the 1300 block of Washington. Some say its the McGowan Bros.
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^Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. How far along is that place?
I do not believe they are updating the units sold on the website. First of all, with a tenant occupying the second floor is would bring it to about 44 units sold. The reason I believe it is not updated is because they are redoing their entire marketing presentation. The website is supposedly going to show progression details so I believe website updates are on hold. As far as others without underground parking...Jacobs Develpment will be buying either the lot behind or in front of the Ventana which will be gated and provided for the next buyers.
Contact Jacobs Development about getting on the list for emails containing info on open houses. I received an email. They will be doing open houses once a month.
Contact Jacobs Development about getting on the list for emails containing info on open houses. I received an email. They will be doing open houses once a month.
There were a few more points clarified:
There are 35 parking spots, and they have been assigned.
The second floor is NOT YET a done deal. I am also not sure what would happen if that commercial enterprise went broke after they bought the units.
The security system would be programmable. Once 75% of units are sold, the homeowners make the rules and they can change the system as and when needed. I think the security system is restrictive, but will need to see how they do this in other lofts.
Owners with balconies will NOT be allowed to have a grill on it. They were not sure about satellite dishes.
The view from the roof is INCREDIBLE. The north portion of the roof is private to the ninth floor owners (forming the 2 level penthouses). The south facing roof has a beautifull view of south city and you can see the Arch in the East.
All in all......... great progress by these guys
There are 35 parking spots, and they have been assigned.
The second floor is NOT YET a done deal. I am also not sure what would happen if that commercial enterprise went broke after they bought the units.
The security system would be programmable. Once 75% of units are sold, the homeowners make the rules and they can change the system as and when needed. I think the security system is restrictive, but will need to see how they do this in other lofts.
Owners with balconies will NOT be allowed to have a grill on it. They were not sure about satellite dishes.
The view from the roof is INCREDIBLE. The north portion of the roof is private to the ninth floor owners (forming the 2 level penthouses). The south facing roof has a beautifull view of south city and you can see the Arch in the East.
All in all......... great progress by these guys
bsharmastl wrote:There were a few more points clarified:
There are 35 parking spots, and they have been assigned.
The second floor is NOT YET a done deal. I am also not sure what would happen if that commercial enterprise went broke after they bought the units.
The security system would be programmable. Once 75% of units are sold, the homeowners make the rules and they can change the system as and when needed. I think the security system is restrictive, but will need to see how they do this in other lofts.
Owners with balconies will NOT be allowed to have a grill on it. They were not sure about satellite dishes.
The view from the roof is INCREDIBLE. The north portion of the roof is private to the ninth floor owners (forming the 2 level penthouses). The south facing roof has a beautifull view of south city and you can see the Arch in the East.
All in all......... great progress by these guys
Sounds nice but no grill on the balcony? That's crazy!
blipic wrote:I do not believe they are updating the units sold on the website. First of all, with a tenant occupying the second floor is would bring it to about 44 units sold. The reason I believe it is not updated is because they are redoing their entire marketing presentation. The website is supposedly going to show progression details so I believe website updates are on hold. As far as others without underground parking...Jacobs Develpment will be buying either the lot behind or in front of the Ventana which will be gated and provided for the next buyers.
Contact Jacobs Development about getting on the list for emails containing info on open houses. I received an email. They will be doing open houses once a month.
Buy the lot in front or in back? Did they tell you if they did this, would they then have extra spots to lease to residents who live in other buildings? Both those lots are big lots and the one in front is used by CPI employees. I think CPI has like a 10 year lease on that lot with the city. So my guess would be that Ventanta would buy the lot in back if possible.
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^I was under the impresion that the already owned the lot in back. I remember Moon tried to aquire that lot to build the parking garage, but the owner said somethning about already having a deal in the works with Ventana. I still think at the very least Ventana should build a basic garage on the lot, just a roof and some walls to offer protection form the elements and crime. At the price point they sell at, I would think that it should be a given.
On the tour they said they were looking to ideally build a garage for additional parking that would have first floor retail and parking above
Urban Elitist wrote:^Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. How far along is that place?
re the gym at 13XX Washington, work has pretty much stopped for now, although I've seen a few "contractor types" walking around it lately. They had gotten the new upstairs windows framed in, and the interior is gutted, but nothing much else. Also, one of the old first floor windows blew out last week.
I expect work to pick up again any day now.
On the grill on the balcony issue...
When we first reserved we were told there was no problem with it, and this was a major selling point for us.
On the tour one of the salespeople said that there was a city ordinance against it...being a lawyer I tried to find such an ordinance...none
also, on the loft tours I have been on many other places had grills...
if they put it in the condo docs, we can simply vote to amend it once we take control, I simply believe this is a case of someone not knowing what they are talking about. Unfortunately, with the exception of Kendra and Jill, the people a Jacob seem like they would rather give a wrong answer or make one up most of the time rather than saying I don't know.
I wouldn't sweat the grill thing, I see no reason why there would be a problem with it...charcoal grills are probablya no - no due to fire hazard and having a mesh type balcony with a neighbor below, but gas and electric should be fine
When we first reserved we were told there was no problem with it, and this was a major selling point for us.
On the tour one of the salespeople said that there was a city ordinance against it...being a lawyer I tried to find such an ordinance...none
also, on the loft tours I have been on many other places had grills...
if they put it in the condo docs, we can simply vote to amend it once we take control, I simply believe this is a case of someone not knowing what they are talking about. Unfortunately, with the exception of Kendra and Jill, the people a Jacob seem like they would rather give a wrong answer or make one up most of the time rather than saying I don't know.
I wouldn't sweat the grill thing, I see no reason why there would be a problem with it...charcoal grills are probablya no - no due to fire hazard and having a mesh type balcony with a neighbor below, but gas and electric should be fine
Thanks for that answer. I simply took their assertion of the city ordinance at face value.
Went to the Ventana after the Cards game. Emily and Jill were there and showed around the building. 2 more floors have the 3 inch granite floors laid out. They are hoping to come up with the upgrade package costs by next week.
The 2 ideas (for parking) floated around are building a garage (front or back) and sharing that with City museum and WOW, OR keeping the back of the first floor as a parking garage (for an additional 40 or so spaces).
I personally like the sales staff they have there. I think the problem with the Ventana is that their cost is/was not pre construction, but rather market based, which may turn off potential investors.
The 2 ideas (for parking) floated around are building a garage (front or back) and sharing that with City museum and WOW, OR keeping the back of the first floor as a parking garage (for an additional 40 or so spaces).
I personally like the sales staff they have there. I think the problem with the Ventana is that their cost is/was not pre construction, but rather market based, which may turn off potential investors.
Hi, everyone!
So, for all those who post messages in this forum, I assume most of you are buyers and already have a unit reserved at The Ventana. I guess, for those who have units, like myself, it's interesting to note that we'll all be future neighbors not too long from now. It's nice to know each other by our first names. I'm Brian. What are all your names? I'm curious too...How old are you all? I'm in my mid-20s, and I'm sure most people are in their 20s and 30s, with possible exceptions. What floors are you all on? Are most people buying a unit for investment purposes in downtown? Anyways, I'm just trying to get to know everyone, my future neighbors and all. I'm sure we will all find this interesting. Anyways, looking forward to meeting you all during move-in or during future walk throughs.
So, for all those who post messages in this forum, I assume most of you are buyers and already have a unit reserved at The Ventana. I guess, for those who have units, like myself, it's interesting to note that we'll all be future neighbors not too long from now. It's nice to know each other by our first names. I'm Brian. What are all your names? I'm curious too...How old are you all? I'm in my mid-20s, and I'm sure most people are in their 20s and 30s, with possible exceptions. What floors are you all on? Are most people buying a unit for investment purposes in downtown? Anyways, I'm just trying to get to know everyone, my future neighbors and all. I'm sure we will all find this interesting. Anyways, looking forward to meeting you all during move-in or during future walk throughs.
Hi Brian,
There were 4 of us at the last tour. I am in my mid 30's, bought unit I, and am sure to meet you at the loft tour. I received a mail about it (it's in May), but don't remember the exact date.
There were 4 of us at the last tour. I am in my mid 30's, bought unit I, and am sure to meet you at the loft tour. I received a mail about it (it's in May), but don't remember the exact date.
Hello Brian,
My name is Brad. I am 22, graduating from Maryville University w/ an Actuarial Science degree this May and will be working as an Actuary in West County upon graduation (commute should be fun!!). I purchsed on the 5th floor, Unit E. The next loft tour is Friday May 12, 5:30pm, and must RSVP to Emily by Thursday May 11. I will make it to this one as I missed the last one by 30 minutes. What unit did you purchase?
My name is Brad. I am 22, graduating from Maryville University w/ an Actuarial Science degree this May and will be working as an Actuary in West County upon graduation (commute should be fun!!). I purchsed on the 5th floor, Unit E. The next loft tour is Friday May 12, 5:30pm, and must RSVP to Emily by Thursday May 11. I will make it to this one as I missed the last one by 30 minutes. What unit did you purchase?
OK, if everyone else is doing it...
My name is Joe, my fiancee's name is Kimberly...we will be married by the time we move in. We are both in our mid to late 20's...I am an attorney and Kimberly is in pharmaceutical sales...
We bought 3rd floor J
We should be at the May walkthrough
Also, I really want to give props to Jacob for doing these tours and being so open. I have a friend buying from Pyramid and they have a hard time getting nay info whatsoever...it is very nice to be involved in the process from such an early stage
My name is Joe, my fiancee's name is Kimberly...we will be married by the time we move in. We are both in our mid to late 20's...I am an attorney and Kimberly is in pharmaceutical sales...
We bought 3rd floor J
We should be at the May walkthrough
Also, I really want to give props to Jacob for doing these tours and being so open. I have a friend buying from Pyramid and they have a hard time getting nay info whatsoever...it is very nice to be involved in the process from such an early stage
Hi to everyone.
I'm Brian, and just recently turned 24. I work for Boeing, near the airport, as a software engineer. The commute should be okay. I used to live in St. Peters and currently live in Creve Coeur. I'll now familiarize myself more with downtown once I move into my loft. I'm on the 4th floor. My girlfriend, Dorothy, is getting a unit also on the 3rd floor. We both plan on attending the May walkthrough. I've RSVPed already. See you all there.
By the way, thank you for all your responses. They've been great.
I'm Brian, and just recently turned 24. I work for Boeing, near the airport, as a software engineer. The commute should be okay. I used to live in St. Peters and currently live in Creve Coeur. I'll now familiarize myself more with downtown once I move into my loft. I'm on the 4th floor. My girlfriend, Dorothy, is getting a unit also on the 3rd floor. We both plan on attending the May walkthrough. I've RSVPed already. See you all there.
By the way, thank you for all your responses. They've been great.
I am aware of a gas station (it is new I believe) at Delmar and Jefferson (about 3 blocks away). It has a small food mart too. Does anyone know where's the nearest Grocery store?
City Grocers...but the Schnucks on Lindell is about 3 miles away and the DSchnucks on Clayton is about 5 miles away
the Derbergs on Brentwood is just a littel further
honestly that is how far I drive to the store now and I live in the county, so this complaint about city living is much ado about nothing in my mind
the Derbergs on Brentwood is just a littel further
honestly that is how far I drive to the store now and I live in the county, so this complaint about city living is much ado about nothing in my mind
I guess taking your car out to go to the grocery store is something we 'burbites are known for 
Quick questions Joe. Since you stated you were a lawyer, you might have an answer. The $10K we paid for parking....... does that give us a deeded parking spot or is it just "reserved" in the general sense? In other words, if someone for any reason parked in our spot, can we get him towed?
Quick questions Joe. Since you stated you were a lawyer, you might have an answer. The $10K we paid for parking....... does that give us a deeded parking spot or is it just "reserved" in the general sense? In other words, if someone for any reason parked in our spot, can we get him towed?
I posed this to Jacob development and the response that I got was that the parking space will be deeded to the owner of the condo with the condo...that you will own the 3 dimensional space, so that you could even hang bikes over your space or whatever...
all in accordance with the covenants of the condo docs of course
all in accordance with the covenants of the condo docs of course
Hi, all.
Did anyone get to read the article on downtown living in St. Louis Magazine? This issue of St. Louis Magazine features articles on "Where To Live" in St. Louis, the hotspots, etc...Of course, DT STL is the hotspot right now. It's a really great issue this month. They even have a section where they feature certain lofts in downtown and the transformation of downtown. Plus, they even featured different towns of suburbia talking about various demographics and other interesting information. Check it out. I bought a copy, and it's interesting. I'm sure you'll see the magazine around. Check your local Borders, Barnes&Noble, or some other newsstand. Plus the magazine articles would be a great thing to show your friends who still are skeptical about the big move downtown!
. Also, last weekend KMOV channel 4 featured a transformation of downtown during their broadcast in the morning. I heard about the St. Louis Magazine on KSDK channel 5 during their news. Thus, all this hype and excitement of loft living in downtown makes me really excited!
Did anyone get to read the article on downtown living in St. Louis Magazine? This issue of St. Louis Magazine features articles on "Where To Live" in St. Louis, the hotspots, etc...Of course, DT STL is the hotspot right now. It's a really great issue this month. They even have a section where they feature certain lofts in downtown and the transformation of downtown. Plus, they even featured different towns of suburbia talking about various demographics and other interesting information. Check it out. I bought a copy, and it's interesting. I'm sure you'll see the magazine around. Check your local Borders, Barnes&Noble, or some other newsstand. Plus the magazine articles would be a great thing to show your friends who still are skeptical about the big move downtown!
. Also, last weekend KMOV channel 4 featured a transformation of downtown during their broadcast in the morning. I heard about the St. Louis Magazine on KSDK channel 5 during their news. Thus, all this hype and excitement of loft living in downtown makes me really excited!Pre construction is normally non negotiable (I looked at a lot of lofts and this was consistent). All the best configurations go during this period. Towards the end of the sale, you can get heavy discounts (like free upgrades or 3-5K off), but those are the left over units and there is a reason they did not sell at asking price.
Has anyone checked out The Ventana website lately? I checked it today and clicked on the "Lofts" tab and noticed the entire 2nd floor now shows that all the lofts have been sold. Does anyone know more about this? Could this be referring to that tenant that wanted to occupy that floor?