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here you go We have a lot of empty office space   https://reasonstobecheerful.world/offices-homeless-accommodation/

addxb2 wrote:EWG is looking to move to 701 Market (Peabody). 
https://www.ewgateway.org/wp-content/up ... e-Memo.pdf

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -move.html

EWG is negotiating to take up space on the 7th floor of 701 Market (formerly Peabody Plaza). They currently occupy about 15,000 square feet at Gateway Tower, and their lease runs through the end of 2028.

CBRE also says they believe the space vacated by Peabody, about 60-65,000 square feet, will be filled quickly.

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Almost would be a perfect spot for Energizer..

Bank of America Plaza sold for at least $9.55 million, which is higher than the building is appraised and higher than it was last sold for.

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Honestly that's a pretty good outcome.  There seemed to be a good amount of demand and it sold for more than the last auction so that's also a good sign.

anybody see where 1831 chestnut ended at? it was 350k with 2 hrs left when i saw it

johnnyqnola wrote:anybody see where 1831 chestnut ended at? it was 350k with 2 hrs left when i saw it

According to BJ, the reserve was exceeded. “Quite a lot of interest in the property, and we’re pleased with the result”

what $ did it end up at and who was the 'winner'?

1831 Chestnut sold for $1.5 million

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The business sector not taking risks and coming back downtown is a problem, no doubt. But there are a few other factors that can’t be ignored and ignoring them is being disingenuous. 

That then leads to the chicken or egg argument which just gives me a complete headache.

I don't take that survey seriously at all. How can you have the Gateway Arch and Busch Stadium in your downtown and only score 58% for iconic?

Mind you, St. Louis is between Paris and Portland on this silly survey.

whitherSTL wrote:The business sector not taking risks and coming back downtown is a problem, no doubt. But there are a few other factors that can’t be ignored and ignoring them is being disingenuous. 

That then leads to the chicken or egg argument which just gives me a complete headache.

Downtown STL has no "other factors" that every other downtown doesn't also have.

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I don't know if I agree with that. The political sphere is especially harmful in St. Louis. Consider that we're all hoping for a Downtown suited for 2.8M region but only 0.3M have any legislative or political requirement to care. Half of that (about seven alders) you couldn't get to sign a non-binding resolution that says "Downtown is a critical component of the City's economy" without negotiating something for themselves. A lot of the foundational buy-in is missing in St. Louis and I think it does more damage than we realize. 

addxb2 wrote:I don't know if I agree with that. The political sphere is especially harmful in St. Louis. Consider that we're all hoping for a Downtown suited for 2.8M region but only 0.3M have any legislative or political requirement to care. Half of that (about seven alders) you couldn't get to sign a non-binding resolution that says "Downtown is a critical component of the City's economy" without negotiating something for themselves. A lot of the foundational buy-in is missing in St. Louis and I think it does more damage than we realize. 

Lemme guess, these 7 alders represent the most impoverished, most disinvested, and most shelled out part of the city? Shocking.

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I don't have a list but can think of South and North City alders. I'm also not saying they're wrong to withhold support and lack trust.  My point is that it's a uniquely enhanced variable in St. Louis thanks to City/County divide which excuses about 1M people who should care. Then the remaining elected officials with power to do something have shared their less enthusiastic view of Downtown.

addxb2 wrote:I don't have a list but can think of South and North City alders. I'm also not saying they're wrong to withhold support and lack trust.  My point is that it's a uniquely enhanced variable in St. Louis thanks to City/County divide which excuses about 1M people who should care. Then the remaining elected officials with power to do something have shared their less enthusiastic view of Downtown.

I don't disagree with that part of your comment. It is absolutely true that STL suffers from the fact government officials in the county see no need to provide meaningful support to downtown, and actually try to compete with it.

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The headline in misleading, it acts like outside people from all over the world ranked it this way, but isn’t it our own residents ranking it poorly?


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Just saw a ranking that downtown St.Louis is the least vibrant in the US


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at half way point, we've gone under 10% availability.  also Victor crosses 80% occupied for the first time. 

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

8:33 PM - Jun 30

at half way point, we've gone under 10% availability.  also Victor crosses 80% occupied for the first time. 

Why does the list leave of so many other multifamily buildings downtown ?

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12:59 AM - Jul 01

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

8:33 PM - Jun 30

at half way point, we've gone under 10% availability.  also Victor crosses 80% occupied for the first time. 

Why does the list leave of so many other multifamily buildings downtown ?

that was explained in this thread in December. 

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Dec 27, 2025

New project for 2026, month to month apartment occupancy for these select properties
basically, it's the ones that i know have good public data on availability and its also a good mix of Downtown east of tucker, DT west and the Landing. 

We are finishing 2025 with 293 available out of these 2,425 (12%)
next update late Jan 2026 

 The explanation from December

-RBB