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Completely agree. From river to Clayton's west edge is over 80 blocks. The healing of this broken spine is going quite well in my estimation. Of course I'm old enough to remember all the missing vertebrae evident in the 70's and 80's.matguy70 wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2021The "problem" with STL is that STL's urban fabric is far more extended out than in these other cities listed above. St. Louis has the downtown core, then the Midtown high rise core, then the Central West End high rise core and then (just outside city limits) the Clayton high rise core. Making up a tremendous amount of real estate both residential and commercial. Milwaukee, Nashville (and all the other cities listed above) have primarily one downtown high rise core area and that is it. Any type of extension to their downtown cores are literally neighborhoods adjacent making up that central downtown core. I look at STL more like Manhattan (as in the central corridor)... a unique section of 4 high rise districts connected with neighborhoods (think Greenwich Village and Soho alike). Slam those four distinct high rise cores adjacent... STL looks more like Atlanta (skyline in terms of buildings). In STL they all compete with investors and with residents.Cincinnati is more our competition to be honest. I think Cincinnati, Cleveland, Omaha, Tulsa, Indy, and Memphis. Milwaukee and Nashville are at another level not far ahead but we’re not there yet.
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Yeah but that’s not the point. Compared to OTHER cities our job growth and population growth sucks. And the same can be said for our Downtown when comparing it to others.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2021did you miss the multiple times in this thread that downtown + west has the highest growth of any neighborhood in the city from 2010-2020. Like 38-40% combined and the highest raw total of new residence.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2021I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s great that some who currently live downtown think it’s better than what most perceive it to be. But unless some major changes happen, growth will remain somewhat slow compared to the burbs and other neighborhoods in the city.
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That is the point, he was saying downtown isn’t growing as fast as other places like CWE or chesterfield? but it’s growing much faster then any other place in STL city or county and compared to other downtowns it’s population growth is near the top.Downtown1999 wrote: ↑Nov 21, 2021Yeah but that’s not the point. Compared to OTHER cities our job growth and population growth sucks. And the same can be said for our Downtown when comparing it to others.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2021did you miss the multiple times in this thread that downtown + west has the highest growth of any neighborhood in the city from 2010-2020. Like 38-40% combined and the highest raw total of new residence.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2021I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s great that some who currently live downtown think it’s better than what most perceive it to be. But unless some major changes happen, growth will remain somewhat slow compared to the burbs and other neighborhoods in the city.
So about 1pm today I'm heading south on 8th Street and come to the stoplight at Chestnut. 9 different teens are pushing/riding inoperable Lime scooters east on Chestnut. You could hear all of the scooters beeping. In the middle of the intersection they stop abandon them in the middle of the streets as walk/run away all laughing and high fiving.
Was it the end of the world? No. But it was annoying.
Was it the end of the world? No. But it was annoying.
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Did you know that you can use an EBT card for scooters? Look it up. I have a friend who does it all the time. Just pointing this out because the vast majority of people have no idea.
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I personally don’t really care that folks use their EBT card for micro mobility, or *gasping* a moment of fun as a child. I have better things to do than to scrutinize how other people use their day to day funds. People deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and compassion.leeharveyawesome wrote:Did you know that you can use an EBT card for scooters? Look it up. I have a friend who does it all the time. Just pointing this out because the vast majority of people have no idea.
This downtown thread has been overrun with anti-poor rhetoric over the last month and it’s shameful.
Downtown is a good place to live and is one of the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city. It is overwhelmingly good that the neighborhood and its adjacent neighborhoods have housing for poor residents. It is one of the ways that St. Louis acts more equitably than the rest of the country.
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THANK YOU SeattleNative Right On
How pious all of us have become pointing accusatory fingers down at the peasant class
while the rest of us with our operators rape us all
Welcome to the golden age of scammers
Everything is a grift nowadays.
There are individual scammers, sure, and there always have been: the Billy McFarland’s of the see-and-be-seen party circuit, or the Bernie Madoffs of the world of wealth management (or mismanagement). Yet increasingly the headline-making cons of the moment seem like full-fledged cosmologies — personal, professional and political belief systems. And the adherents are trying to fool others even as they fool themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/10/molly-roberts-grifting-is-so-on-trend/
Welcome to the Golden Age of Fraud
Cheap money is slowly destroying us
https://medium.com/concoda/we-re-about-to-witness-the-golden-age-of-fraud-1622b15c228
How pious all of us have become pointing accusatory fingers down at the peasant class
while the rest of us with our operators rape us all
Welcome to the golden age of scammers
Everything is a grift nowadays.
There are individual scammers, sure, and there always have been: the Billy McFarland’s of the see-and-be-seen party circuit, or the Bernie Madoffs of the world of wealth management (or mismanagement). Yet increasingly the headline-making cons of the moment seem like full-fledged cosmologies — personal, professional and political belief systems. And the adherents are trying to fool others even as they fool themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/10/molly-roberts-grifting-is-so-on-trend/
Welcome to the Golden Age of Fraud
Cheap money is slowly destroying us
https://medium.com/concoda/we-re-about-to-witness-the-golden-age-of-fraud-1622b15c228
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From my barista so take it for what it is
Apparently the building where Lucas Park Grill was sold and the former owners are now going to turn former Wash Ave post (which has been gutted) and closed restaurant next door into one space for a similar concept
Also Flannery’s has been used to make chips that are sold at Dierbergs, which has been a lucrative biz so until a space for that is found don’t expect Flannery’s to re open
Apparently the building where Lucas Park Grill was sold and the former owners are now going to turn former Wash Ave post (which has been gutted) and closed restaurant next door into one space for a similar concept
Also Flannery’s has been used to make chips that are sold at Dierbergs, which has been a lucrative biz so until a space for that is found don’t expect Flannery’s to re open
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I was simply pointing it out as a public service because a lot of people don't know that they have this benefit. I wasn't scrutinizing it.
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As the person that was in charge of rolling out and running the scooter program locally, we pushed for this as did many other peers around the countryleeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Nov 22, 2021I was simply pointing it out as a public service because a lot of people don't know that they have this benefit. I wasn't scrutinizing it.
Sorry if my post offended you and that I should have been happy with what the teens did in abandoning the scooters in the middle of the intersection. Took me 4 or 5 minutes to pick all the scooters up out of the street, move them to the sidewalk so that myself and other cars could drive. Cut my hand pretty decently on an exposed piece of metal on one of the scooters.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Nov 22, 2021I personally don’t really care that folks use their EBT card for micro mobility, or *gasping* a moment of fun as a child. I have better things to do than to scrutinize how other people use their day to day funds. People deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and compassion.leeharveyawesome wrote:Did you know that you can use an EBT card for scooters? Look it up. I have a friend who does it all the time. Just pointing this out because the vast majority of people have no idea.
This downtown thread has been overrun with anti-poor rhetoric over the last month and it’s shameful.
Downtown is a good place to live and is one of the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city. It is overwhelmingly good that the neighborhood and its adjacent neighborhoods have housing for poor residents. It is one of the ways that St. Louis acts more equitably than the rest of the country.
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I wasn’t responding to your anecdote. Didn’t have any problem with it.dweebe wrote:Sorry if my post offended you and that I should have been happy with what the teens did in abandoning the scooters in the middle of the intersection. Took me 4 or 5 minutes to pick all the scooters up out of the street, move them to the sidewalk so that myself and other cars could drive. Cut my hand pretty decently on an exposed piece of metal on one of the scooters.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Nov 22, 2021I personally don’t really care that folks use their EBT card for micro mobility, or *gasping* a moment of fun as a child. I have better things to do than to scrutinize how other people use their day to day funds. People deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and compassion.leeharveyawesome wrote:Did you know that you can use an EBT card for scooters? Look it up. I have a friend who does it all the time. Just pointing this out because the vast majority of people have no idea.
This downtown thread has been overrun with anti-poor rhetoric over the last month and it’s shameful.
Downtown is a good place to live and is one of the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city. It is overwhelmingly good that the neighborhood and its adjacent neighborhoods have housing for poor residents. It is one of the ways that St. Louis acts more equitably than the rest of the country.
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Your track record suggests otherwiseleeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Nov 22, 2021I was simply pointing it out as a public service because a lot of people don't know that they have this benefit. I wasn't scrutinizing it.
What’s all the current utility work being done this time? I though they’d done gas and electricity? So is this water/sewer?
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I understand the infrastructure is aging and must be updated: but……damn.
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Some of it is due to new or changed uses of buildings like all the work around the mls stadium but for the most part it’s ameren/spire upgrading. Once a while you'll get a 5G light pole and they close entire road because a path needs to be cut to the other side for whatever reason.
I get this isn’t a random Friday morning in 2014 when someone took a train downtown but today weather it was the arch grounds, Kiener plaza, city garden, city museum, union station, ballpark village, the clubs/bars in cupples area and restaurants up and down Washington- all very busy.
Annex(?) building next Larson Capital building is getting closer to be done. There is still a lot of concrete work surrounding the building and in the background the new Chase bank branch is well underway at the kiener garage
This is gonna be a game changer when it tops out.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2021Annex(?) building next Larson Capital building is getting closer to be done. There is still a lot of concrete work surrounding the building and in the background the new Chase bank branch is well underway at the kiener garage
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its a $20M project with the renovation of the connecting towerOnTheEdge wrote: ↑Dec 01, 2021This is gonna be a game changer when it tops out.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2021Annex(?) building next Larson Capital building is getting closer to be done. There is still a lot of concrete work surrounding the building and in the background the new Chase bank branch is well underway at the kiener garage
I'm no master web designer, but you'd think they'd want to:
A. put the location on the front page of the website.
B. Make sure the map on their website (found in the contact us section) points to their actual location west of Jefferson rather than a parking lot east of Jefferson.
Based on the nonfunctional order online button, this place is a chain?
A. put the location on the front page of the website.
B. Make sure the map on their website (found in the contact us section) points to their actual location west of Jefferson rather than a parking lot east of Jefferson.
Based on the nonfunctional order online button, this place is a chain?