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PostFeb 22, 2008#326

It looks like a beautiful building.



But I think that wallpaper would give me a headache.

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PostFeb 22, 2008#327

DeBaliviere wrote:Those fabric valences were put up so long ago, they're actually kind of back in style again!


Funny how that happens. I remember that there was a restaurant inside Heer's in Springfield, Mo. which (IIRC) had similar window treatments, so apparently this was the "in" look for department store dining facilities back in the day.

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PostFeb 28, 2008#328

I also posted this under Transportation Projects, but am posting this here as well as there are WeCar's parked within a few blocks of The Laurel:



I just signed up for WeCar and completed my first "rental" yesterday. It was great. I agree that it takes a few minutes to get going. The Prius is a bit quirky and they don't tell you that there are two glove compartments (the key pad with the car key is in the TOP compartment). Once on the road, the Prius operates like any other car.



I just traded a two-seat sportscar for a larger vehicle, but WeCar would have been great for me when I had a very small car. There were many times when I have had to borrow a larger vehicle from a friend and WeCar would have been much more convenient.



I also know of many downtown couples who have gone from two to one vehicle. I think WeCar will be a great asset to those people as well.



Also, if the gas goes below 1/4 tank during your rental, you are obligated to fill it up (with a gas card locked in the vehicle), but they do give you a $2 credit for your time.



If you wash the car they give you a $4 credit for your time PLUS they reimburse you for the cost of the wash up to $12 (receipt required).



I encourage everyone who works or lives downtown to consider joining or telling neighbors and co-workers about the WeCar program !



http://www.wecar.com/stl

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PostFeb 28, 2008#329

Love those pictures. Except for the 80's column. It reminds me too much of the remuddle by Dillards. The view pictures really show how this place is perfectly located in the middle of everything. This is one to watch.

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PostMar 01, 2008#330

when is construction slated to begin?

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PostMar 01, 2008#331

re: Projects Up In The Air

Original thread: www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=5455



After posting on the above thread earlier today, I have been asked to repost my analysis of the delays in construction to the appropriate threads individually. This posting relates to the delays in funding of the major new construction and certain redevelopment projects in the Downtown Saint Louis area, which would include the Pyramid projects, such as the Laurel, as well as Skyhouse and the Ford.





That construction has stalled on all of these projects makes absolute perfect sense.



For years, the economy has been capitalizing on incredibly lax lending standards, including and especially individual mortgage holders who’ve overextended themselves. This has been further exacerbated with the secondary markets’ selling of investment products based upon collateralized mortgage obligations, basically banks selling the interests in mortgages wholesale for investment. When these collapsed, it took down hedge funds as well, to the tune of $400 billion.



This resultant full-blown collapse in the US credit markets, and now the Euro credit markets, has greatly impacted the availability of either liquid or collateralized capital that can be used to fund major expansion projects like these. We’ve had a great history of rehabilitation projects, backed by state-supported and federally-supported tax credit programs for ancillary support of financing. While these programs remain strong and aren’t expected to disappear, their role as ancillary funding sources remains. Banks are still the primary source for capital in these development projects. As banks are in the doldrums of the credit market crash (and yes, it is a full-blown crash), it’s hard to place that $50M bridge capital to a fully-occupied building.



The establishment of a base population within these buildings is what will separate these projects from being a sound investment from a purely speculative enterprise. Only with a firm foundation in actual sales and revenues will a beleaguered lending institution be able to support such an allocation.



Problems relating to delayed construction are absolutely not Saint Louis-centric. It is endemic.



These companies want to finish their projects, which remain profitable ventures for them as well as local development to our benefit. While they may have cuts in marketing budgeting expenditures, the continued sales of interests in their projects and acceptances of commitments remain. I believe we can expect all these projects to continue, although these impediments to proper funding sources mean they will have delays to final completion. During this time, we must remember to look macro as well as local.





Also, I’m new to posting on this forum; please excuse the simplistic linking at the top as I learn proper encoding procedures.

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PostMar 01, 2008#332

Welcome to the forum, Gone Corporate. Thanks for your insight and it's not necessary nor appropriate to post the same information in multiple threads.

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PostMar 02, 2008#333

Thanks for your insight and it's not necessary nor appropriate to post the same information in multiple threads.

After posting on the above thread earlier today, I have been asked to repost my analysis of the delays in construction to the appropriate threads individually.


:roll:



poster was advised to by a 'super' moderator in the locked thread



LOL its like you didnt even read the first 2 lines :lol:



kinda troubling that he had that many topics to comment on though



wish it was only two..

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PostMar 02, 2008#334

I don't think he meant to actually post the same thing in every thread when you had already posted it. Just continue thoughts about the downturn as it relates to each project in their own threads. :wink:

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PostMar 12, 2008#335

In addition to tearing down the skybridge over Washington Ave. near MX, has there ever been any discussion to turn the upper deck of the Eads Bridge into a recreational area, i.e. for walkers, joggers, bicyclists, tourists, etc.? I know the lower portion is used by the Metrolink, but with more residents moving downtown, it might be nice to use the upper area for recreational purposes. The views are great, its in a touristy area, and it doesn't seem like there is much car traffic.

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PostMar 12, 2008#336

^ I think removing cars from the upper level would be a mistake. If the East St. Louis riverfront ever becomes something more than a wasteland, having that car access will be an important part of tying downtown into such improvement.

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PostMar 12, 2008#337

If the East St. Louis riverfront ever becomes something more than a wasteland


:lol:

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PostMar 13, 2008#338

Remember, a couple of Summers ago, the city closed the bridge deck for weekend food fairs. It tied up traffic and caused a general uproar. I doubt they'll do it again.

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PostMar 13, 2008#339

Framer wrote:Remember, a couple of Summers ago, the city closed the bridge deck for weekend food fairs. It tied up traffic and caused a general uproar. I doubt they'll do it again.


Ah yes, the "Eats Bridge". In thought, a pretty romantic idea. In reality...not a very good idea.

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PostMar 13, 2008#340

STLCityRes wrote:In addition to tearing down the skybridge over Washington Ave. near MX, has there ever been any discussion to turn the upper deck of the Eads Bridge into a recreational area, i.e. for walkers, joggers, bicyclists, tourists, etc.? I know the lower portion is used by the Metrolink, but with more residents moving downtown, it might be nice to use the upper area for recreational purposes. The views are great, its in a touristy area, and it doesn't seem like there is much car traffic.


You can already walk, ride, or stop on the eads bridge and take photos of the skyline. There are also plenty of people in Illinois who use the bridge, including myself. I always use it, when I can. I also see, very often, tourists taking photos, Downtown residents jogging, and people biking on the bridge.

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PostMar 13, 2008#341

Yes, I have walked/jogged here as well, but it's not so great when cars come whizzing by. And you can't easily go from the north side of the bridge to the south side. I was just thinking of some of the pedestrian bridges in Europe.

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PostMar 13, 2008#342

^Don't know if it's open yet, but there is pretty wide trail on the McKinley Bridge that is separate from traffic.

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PostMar 13, 2008#343

STLCityRes wrote:Yes, I have walked/jogged here as well, but it's not so great when cars come whizzing by. And you can't easily go from the north side of the bridge to the south side. I was just thinking of some of the pedestrian bridges in Europe.


You can't just shut a bridge down to car traffic, one that many Illinoisans are dependent on, so that people in Missouri can jog and bike more comfortably on it.

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PostMar 13, 2008#344

^ I think you forgot one, Xing. When legislators state that bridges improve interstate commerce, they may be referring to their additional use as a large dining table. Pass the salt, please. Err, roadway de-icer?

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PostMar 31, 2008#345

From the Mayor's Desk



Sunday, March 30, 2008

Updating Plans for the Laurel



Readers who make it past the first several paragraphs of Riddhi Trivedi-St. Clair’s story in the Sunday Post-Dispatch will find an update of sorts on Downtown’s continuing revitalization. Like most newspaper stories about the economy, the accent generally is on the negative. Yet, several billion dollars of recent private and public investment Downtown have added new retail and dining choices, new residents, and new or expanded businesses that even the daily newspaper can’t ignore.



I recently spent some time talking to John Steffen about his plans. According to John, the Laurel, formerly home to the downtown Dillard’s department store, is now slated for transformation as an Embassy Suites hotel and first floor retail space, in addition to residential apartments and condominiums. Since Pinnacle Entertainment purchased the Embassy Suites on Laclede’s Landing and rebranded it, the popular Embassy Suites brand has been missing. The Embassy Suites at the Laurel will remedy this deficiency. And many of the condos have already been pre-sold.



In addition, the overall development has been expanded to include the long-vacant first floor retail space at 555 Washington as the first step towards realization of John’s Mercantile Exchange concept. General Growth, owners and operators of the Galleria in Richmond Heights as well as hundreds of other successful shopping malls across the country, is leasing and operating the Mercantile Exchange retail space for John, and has interested a number of mainstream retailers in the Laurel and 555 Washington spaces.



Once a TIF process is completed, construction —including the long-awaited removal of the “bridge” over Washington Avenue between the Laurel and St. Louis Center — is expected to commence.

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PostMar 31, 2008#346

So the commitment from the Embassy Suites, along with fairly strong condo pre-sales mean that everything is on track to begin construction, right?

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PostMar 31, 2008#347

^ That is what I was wondering. Does this mean things are a go?

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PostMar 31, 2008#348

Excellent, this is exciting news, it sounds like this will start soon. 555 Washington has always been one of my favorite buildings, I am glad that it will be incorporated into this project. It looks as if the slow down in housing might be some what offset in retail, office and hotel projects which is fine by me that is what down town needs now to fuel the next wave of residential as the market comes back in a few years.



I am sure this news, however, won’t make any headlines like the PD ran the other day “Downtown Will Struggle”(The article was not nearly as bad as the headline makes it sound, which unfortunately is probably all that those who don’t live or champion downtown already will read and they won’t find out that there are several other important projects going forward downtown). Am I allowed to sue the PD for brining down my property value with attention grabbing, but inaccurate headlines???



Sorry for the tangent and PD rant.

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PostMar 31, 2008#349

MidcoastSTL wrote:^ That is what I was wondering. Does this mean things are a go?
The Mayor's post stated that once the TIF is complete, construction is expected to commence. I suppose that's an unofficial yes.

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PostMar 31, 2008#350

innov8ion wrote:
MidcoastSTL wrote:^ That is what I was wondering. Does this mean things are a go?
The Mayor's post stated that once the TIF is complete, construction is expected to commence. I suppose that's an unofficial yes.


All I can think of is the song "The Trial" from Pink Floyd's album "The Wall". The chorus is Tear down the Wall!!!...Tear down the Wall!!!



Tear down the skybridge!!!



Tear down the skybridge!!!

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