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PostApr 18, 2019#176

Overall looks pretty good, the garage isn't terrible, hopefully there will be some retail on the bottom.  I do hope we end up with a modern aesthetic in addition to the faux historic look on some of these buildings.  It fits well with the other older brick warehouses in Lafayette Square, but I'd really like to see some more glass and maybe a bit more height along Chouteau.

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PostApr 18, 2019#177

This is the kind of development that I'd love to live in.

But I have a kid, so I'm thinking I'll probably end up in Northampton or Southampton or somewhere along the city/county border. 

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PostApr 18, 2019#178

So the phase one is townhouses and an apt. building... I take it they're both off of Chouteau on the southern part of the parcel closer to Lafayette Park?

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PostApr 18, 2019#179

Looks pretty good! What is the timeframe here? What is that last picture? I see a street is closed and can't find that building in the first picture. 

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PostApr 18, 2019#180

Impressive street wall. 

Any word on the fate of the Becker-Anthes House, at 1111 Missouri? 


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PostApr 18, 2019#181

The Mayor wrote: Overall looks pretty good, the garage isn't terrible, hopefully there will be some retail on the bottom.  I do hope we end up with a modern aesthetic in addition to the faux historic look on some of these buildings.  It fits well with the other older brick warehouses in Lafayette Square, but I'd really like to see some more glass and maybe a bit more height along Chouteau.
I agree on the garage isn't terrible and the project as rendered seems to fit well.  Even more so if you consider what the corner was like when Praxair was running out there.   I do think the height is right.  Nice transition from the single resident in Lafayette Square to a solid denser feel along the main arterial across from downtown.   Leave the high rises for downtown, and or around Arch Grounds & Forest Park.   

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PostApr 18, 2019#182

flipz wrote: Looks pretty good! What is the timeframe here? What is that last picture? I see a street is closed and can't find that building in the first picture. 
It is the building just to the east (or left in the pic) of the parking garage. The park matches up. 

Still waiting on some comments on the sky bridge from the parking garage to that building..... (or at least I think it is, it could just be some sort of thing across the road for signage or something)

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PostApr 18, 2019#183

^^ I mean, I wasn't talking skyscrapers lol, maybe just a few floors taller than this, like the original massing study showed.

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PostApr 18, 2019#184

Just noticed the light rail running down Chouteau. 

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PostApr 18, 2019#185

framer wrote:Impressive street wall. 

Any word on the fate of the Becker-Anthes House, at 1111 Missouri? 

The Becker-Anthes House will be renovated.

On another note, it appears the 14 Townhomes will be called “Lafayette Reserve”. The first phase will center around the 2300 LaSalle block and Missouri and Hikory. The remainder could come in pretty short order as well.


PostApr 18, 2019#186

Here is 2300 LaSalle. From the Preservation Board. It says that there will be retail space but the floor plan doesn’t appear to show it.







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PostApr 18, 2019#187

jshank83 wrote:
flipz wrote: Looks pretty good! What is the timeframe here? What is that last picture? I see a street is closed and can't find that building in the first picture. 
It is the building just to the east (or left in the pic) of the parking garage. The park matches up. 

Still waiting on some comments on the sky bridge from the parking garage to that building..... (or at least I think it is, it could just be some sort of thing across the road for signage or something)
Yeah makes sense. MacKay looks to be already closed anyway. 

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PostApr 18, 2019#188

Bill Odell says that these renderings are still preliminary but final design details are being worked out. But they are getting close. Site prep will continue with the final design being revealed around the ground breaking in June.

PostApr 18, 2019#189

Site prep has begun!



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PostApr 18, 2019#190

^ All I'll say is that it is absolutely fantastic to finally see some movement on this part of Lafayette Square.

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PostApr 18, 2019#191

This + SLU's development is looking great for Chouteau!

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PostApr 19, 2019#192

KSDK did a story on this and had an interview with Bill Odell and Paul Hamilton

https://www.ksdk.com/video/news/local/h ... wsource=cl

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PostApr 19, 2019#193

Interesting that they're adding so much more office. The original proposal had called for 84,000 square feet if my records are correct, and the new phase two has more than twice that at 200,000.

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PostApr 19, 2019#194

^ HOK looking for some more space or maybe the principles have something in mind?? or just the running development theme right now until some square footage is built & leased for the demand that is out there at the moment?    

Curious how the hotel plays out for this development.   Name brand, boutique brand out there, or maybe even all new standalone.  You had  a big pull back in rooms and now slowly but surely a build up of hotel rooms in the city hotel room by hotel room, from the downtown boutique with Gils adding more rooms in going after Chemical building, to Midtown connection proposed hotel on Jeff Ave, Midas build out along Forest Park Ave, to CWE hotel at York Ave pulling a demo permit., so on.  The plus side for hotel rooms is that it looks like city & county are on board for CVC convention expansion and Taylors might be building a soccer stadium.   Another plus $400 million dollar worth of investment in downtown that supports hotel rooms.    

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PostApr 19, 2019#195

I think this could really take Laf. Sq. to another level following years of infill in and around the neighb. 

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PostApr 19, 2019#196

Here is a little higher quality rendering of the birdseye view. The bridge thing between the garage and the hotel appears to be a sign of some sort. The second rendering is of 2300 LaSalle when viewed from the North. Because 2300 was designed by HOK, I assume the other buildings will carry a similar look. 
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PostApr 20, 2019#197

I notice that the corner building is set back from Jefferson/Chouteau. I suppose this is in response to the neighbors who wanted the dentist office across the street torn down to "improve visibility" for drivers at the intersection (now occupied by stupid QT).  

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PostApr 21, 2019#198

Just need muh juicy SLU green space entryway! How will anyone ever know what this is otherwise?!

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PostApr 23, 2019#199

PD reporting that preservation board approved the 5 story apartment building in first phase.   Cost reported seems low but don't know what is reasonable on square footage cost

 https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... a551f.html

The planned apartment building, estimated to cost between $6 million and $10 million, includes ground floor commercial space, and the residential units will have two floors of space. The company hopes to start construction this summer and complete it around the end of 2020.

Odell said an additional 14 detached town homes will be constructed as part of the first phase. But much of the initial work requires upgrading the old utilities and other infrastructure in the former industrial area. Odell said the group hopes to begin a 150-unit apartment building on the Praxair site early next year, but timing will depend on the infrastructure work. A new public park would be added around that time.

They’re cleaning the Vanguard Truck site out now and hope to announce plans for that portion of the area soon, Odell said. Other developments for the remaining pieces of the site will be announced later, he said.

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PostApr 23, 2019#200

dredger wrote: A new public park would be added around that time.

They’re cleaning the Vanguard Truck site out now and hope to announce plans for that portion of the area soon, Odell said. 
Does anyone know if this park will be an official St. Louis park or maintained by the owners? Also will Vanguard truck move to another city location or are they calling it quits or moving to the burbs?

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