The Bottle District

xing · PostNov 26, 2004#12004-11-26T22:18+00:00

The Bottle District will be home to restaurants, entertainment stops and stores, many of which you won?t find anywhere else in The Midwest.

On the board so far for The Bottle District:

Restaurants

Cabo Wabo Cantina

Entertainment Destinations

F1 St. Louis check out F1 Boston

Concert Venue

Bowling Alley

The Bottle District is located on the north side of St. Louis? downtown business district. It is framed by Cole Street to the south, Broadway to the east, 7th Street to the west and Interstate Highway 70 to the north. The Edward Jones Dome and America?s Center are both located directly to the south of the District.

The Bottle District features:

500,000 square feet of entertainment and retail venues, including a concert venue, kart racing, a bowling alley and more

175,000 square feet of dining attractions

A full-service grocery store

More than 150 hotel rooms (2008)

More than 250 contemporary residential units

45,000 square feet of premium office space

Underground parking to Bottle District customers

Pedestrian courtyards with a grand view and fountains

A unique pedestrian environment, with intimate courtyards, wide sidewalks and an entire street reserved for walking.

urbanstlouis · PostNov 30, 2004#22004-11-30T10:53+00:00

I like the fact that this project includes residential. The 250 contemporary residential units are part of the second-phase to begin construction in March 2006. The 60 restored loft-style residential units are part of the third-phase, which will restore a five-story, 100-year-old steel-industry facility. The residential units should be complete by 2008.

comandantecero · PostDec 16, 2004#32004-12-16T05:44+00:00

wouldn't it be better if it allowed through traffic? It seems like pedestrian only streets work only in really dense and populated areas, in an area like the bottle district it seems through traffic would help bring bustle and life to the streets as well as connectin with the streets around it.

xing · PostDec 16, 2004#42004-12-16T06:43+00:00

I agree . They'll find out the hard way.

debaliviere · PostDec 16, 2004#52004-12-16T13:55+00:00

I agree that through traffic should be allowed.

This project sounds kind of similar to Newport on the Levee in Newport, KY (Cincinnati), which does seem to work well though.

par · PostDec 16, 2004#62004-12-16T16:06+00:00

Through traffic should be added with on-street parking. Residential is a must. This project may very well work for what its designed for- a destination. But I doubt it will get people to wander too far in any direction. Maybe the landing, but otherwise they are kind of on an island here. The highway, the dome, and the perception of "the projects" are barriers to integrating this into the surrounding areas- unless- through streets and residential are major parts of this plan. Dont get me wrong I'm not saying it should be dumped, I just hope that the powers that be can leverage something better for the city.

xing · PostDec 17, 2004#72004-12-17T09:10+00:00

It's not too far to work off of both the Landing and Washington Avenue.

suburban lou · PostJan 28, 2005#82005-01-28T00:02+00:00

These really don't show any architectural detail at all but you can see the new residential highrises that will be built.

MattnSTL · PostJan 28, 2005#92005-01-28T01:29+00:00

Nice renderings, now we just need them with an exterior on the buildings.

arch city · PostJan 28, 2005#102005-01-28T04:05+00:00

Awesome. I like that the buildings will face outward instead of inward.

Plus, it looks like the buildings will have some added height because they are on top of commercial buildings. The buildings should have some respectable heights.

xing · PostJan 28, 2005#112005-01-28T18:21+00:00

It appears this will be the color scheme, and it seems a lot of light will be coming out of this.

And here's the site plan.

thewayofthearch · PostFeb 01, 2005#122005-02-01T02:28+00:00

What is up with the "color scheme" ?

Are they trying to give drivers on 70 seizures?

arch city · PostFeb 02, 2005#132005-02-02T22:08+00:00

I like the color scheme. I think it will add a lively feel to downtown.

On a side note, I suspect the apartment communities that border the Bottle District could be eventually bought and demolished for new developments - especially if the Bottle District is successful.

debaliviere · PostFeb 02, 2005#142005-02-02T23:01+00:00

Are you talking about Columbus Square or the highrises?

Hopefully the Bottle District will help spur the redevelopment of Neighborhood Gardens - that would be outstanding.

MattnSTL · PostFeb 02, 2005#152005-02-02T23:28+00:00

Neighborhood Gardens redevelopment would be nice, since the former plans stalled as far as I know. Columbus Square is ok right now, but I would like to see it eventually replaced with something higher density. The density of Downtown should expand that way with highrise condos and office towers. For being so close to everything, I'm amazed that that area is full of lowrise apartment complexes.

wkndacity · PostFeb 03, 2005#162005-02-03T14:45+00:00

MattnStl, what did you hear about neighborhood gardens? Driving down 10th ST on occasion I see progress on the demolition or rehabbing of the public housing there at Cass & 10th.

MattnSTL · PostFeb 03, 2005#172005-02-03T18:50+00:00

Not sure exactly, I just heard somewhere, really don't know where, that plans had stalled because of financing. I may be wrong though.

arch city · PostFeb 03, 2005#182005-02-03T19:04+00:00

DeBaliviere wrote:Are you talking about Columbus Square or the highrises?

Hopefully the Bottle District will help spur the redevelopment of Neighborhood Gardens - that would be outstanding.

Columbus Square.

suburban lou · PostFeb 22, 2005#192005-02-22T22:17+00:00

Day.

Night

MattnSTL · PostFeb 22, 2005#202005-02-22T22:35+00:00

I like the streetlights. Amazing how much the renderings have changed.

xing · PostFeb 23, 2005#212005-02-23T00:59+00:00

It's a bit theme parkish.

comandantecero · PostFeb 23, 2005#222005-02-23T01:14+00:00

looking at the different renderings it keeps looking like a sparkled out roofless mall. But whatever, if it brings more people and development into the surrounding area i'm all for it.

urbanstlouis · PostApr 26, 2005#232005-04-26T08:51+00:00

It looks like Grand Prix Speedways was chosen to operate the track in the proposed Bottle District downtown. Grand Prix Speedways is also the same group reported to be closing a deal on a warehouse in Earth City to build a similar track. The Earth City track is supposed to cost $10 million and would be the largest such indoor track of the 50 or so in North America.

4/25/2005 - The Bottle District selects Grand Prix Racing

The Bottle District Partners, a group leading a $200 Million + development slated to break ground early this summer in downtown St. Louis has selected Grand Prix Speedways to operate a state-of the art, purpose built Indoor Kart Racing and meeting facility that is a cornerstone of the development.

related links:

http://www.thebottledistrict.com/

http://www.grandprixspeedways.com/

http://www.grandprixspeedways.com/media/

soulardd · PostApr 26, 2005#242005-04-26T15:19+00:00

I think that sucks. Earth City?! The Bottle District needs something unique that will cause people to get out of their suburban shell and come to the 'big scary' city. F1 St. Louis to go along with F1 Boston sounds much better than Grand Prix whatever, oh yeah there's one in Earth City too. F the Suburbs.

smsplanstu · PostApr 26, 2005#252005-04-26T18:24+00:00

Hold up on F the suburbs Soulard person, do not be too hasty. The one in Earth City is to be connected to the hype of the Mills Mall, which is unique in that it offers more than shopping. I am against more flood plain properties being taken over for the development of wharehouses when our farms are important. However, when warehouses are abandoned they need another use like Walmart buildings will one day be a problem.