urbanSTL

^ Oh, someone please save our honor!

That is the first time I have ever read an entire comments section. All of the negative comments are so over-the-top that I couldn't imagine anyone taking them seriously. Even my most suburban-minded friends (many from St. Charles County) would view these comments as absurd. My ex-girlfriend's father used to make negative comments much like the ones on STLtoday just to get a rise out of me, and I get the feeling that these people are doing just that. Of course that doesn't make it right and anyone reading the comments might get the wrong impression from them, which is why it is important that we keep going with the positive responses. I think they outweighed the negatives quite well this time around.



^Grover, BRILLIANT!

Completely brain-dead, racist comments aren't the exclusive property of stltoday posters. I followed a link from fark to the Fox affiliate in DC about a robbery gone wrong. Sure enough, the very first comment was something like "black crime yet again." That's very loose paraphrasing, but the comments were startlingly similar to what you'd find on stltoday.

^ Wherever incivility exists, it should be stamped out by advancing accountability. Social control is a biatch.



Let's work to make this blog really damn good. We should shoot to get national exposure and the front page of digg.com. I am not joking...

I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't even bother to read the articles on which they're commenting.

The road to civil discourse in the media continues today with renewed vigor. @STLtoday - Meet @STLtomorrow. Please join our STLtomorrow Facebook Fan Page that we'll use to advance the attack on ignorance. Also follow our Tweets @ http://twitter.com/STLtomorrow.



We need your help in posting some of the more "interesting" comments to the STLtomorrow Fan Page. Together, let us form the biggest pile of concentrated sh*t the world has ever seen! Smear it far, smear it wide. So much stinky poo, the ignoramuses can not hide...



But this isn't just a joke. Not only will we shed light on the problem, we'll provide a blueprint to solve it.



Are you in? One for all and all for one!

Thankfully, it's not just us. A guy on my Facebook friends list posted this the other day regarding his hometown newspaper in Jackson, Tennessee...



"Discovered that the Jackson Sun has stopped allowing comments on their site. I applaud them. One less haven for idiots."

Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.



http://stltomorrow.org

innov8ion wrote:Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.



http://stltomorrow.org

Fair enough, but I think it would be cooler/funnier to be able to type in "stltodaycomments.com" or something.

^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.

innov8ion wrote:^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.

hehe...Fair Use doesn't cover that, huh?

At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly



"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!



Kim A. Knutsen



Webster Groves"

southsidepride wrote:At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly:



"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!



Kim A. Knutsen



Webster Groves"

Isn't there a section online of letters to the editor where people can post responses? Defenders of the city...mount up!

sorry, should have provided a link



http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/letter ... y-of-vice/

Grover wrote:I've set up a blog to highlight the worst comments on STL Today. It's called "The Best of STL Today Comments"



Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/



I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....

This blog was created to highlight the absurdly ignorant, intolerant, sometimes hateful and ultimately unproductive comments found on the Post-Dispatch website www.stltoday.com.



The Post-Dispatch should not allow comments on their STL Today website that they would not be comfortable printing above the fold on the front page of their Sunday edition. Their continued facilitation of ignorance and hate is an abdication of journalistic responsibility.

This link doesn't work - are you using the Facebook group instead?

Moorlander wrote:This link doesn't work - are you using the Facebook group instead?

Yes. Try this instead- it has a link to the Facebook page:



http://www.stltomorrow.org

Just posted this anti-semitic comment from stltoday to http://stltomorrow.org

drumming umpire wrote:Nice try, troylifer. Read the talmud. It states that any non-jew can be killed, injured, or cheated without it being a sin on the jew.

The St. Louis metropolitan area is a classic study in polarization and could benefit from increased levels of understanding in such issues as race, sexual orientation, class, geography (city vs. county), religion, etc. The Post-Dispatch acknowledges this in maintaining a blog titled, "Conversations on Race" yet surprisingly fosters a commenting environment that encourages the spread of ignorance which serves to divide us. Our aim is to compile a running list of stltoday.com comments to highlight that this problem is no mere exaggeration and needs to be addressed. Additionally, that the Post-Dispatch admits it is too lazy to effectively handle this problem is not only disheartening, but irresponsible.



Learn more about this issue here: http://j.mp/STLtodayIgnorance and please join our Facebook Fan Page here: http://j.mp/STLtomorrow. United, we can stand up against ignorance and spur the Post-Dispatch to take action.

Post a vulgar comment while you’re at work, lose your job



LINK

^ If only Mr. Greenbaum took his moderating duties seriously enough to implement the suggestions that Innov8ion has posted here more than once. Anonymity generally works out well on this forum because there is a certain standard of behavior here. If the Post-Dispatch wants to continue allowing comments following articles, columns, and blog postings on STLtoday.com, it really needs to strip away posters' anonymity and make them accountable for what they say.