St. Louis Rams

dredger · PostSep 05, 2014#19762014-09-05T22:59+00:00

^ I also think the reality is that St. Louis Rams also have at least four other NFL teams in relative close proximity (Bears, Chiefs, Colts, and Titans) nor is the metro area comparable in the size to the Mid Atlantic state teams/Bay area, etc. nor is the region growing like Texas/Florida. In other words, St. Louis Rams will always have a small footprint on that map.

Unfortunately, you got a owner who won't publically express what it would take to keep Rams in St Louis and to me, that should worry a lot of fans. Where as Raiders have made it pretty clear in the media, or at least my impression after moving out here, is that it will take a new stadium to stay put in Oakland but they will stay.

gary kreie · PostSep 06, 2014#19772014-09-06T02:09+00:00

Think how we would draw if we were in a division with teams nearby rather than teams as far away from St Louis as one can get. All so Dallas can stay in the East. We always draw well when we play nearby teams because folks from those cities live here. And we would have real rivalries like NFC North. Chicago fans took over Dallas stadium when they played since it was the Midwest.

Bart Harley Jarvis · PostSep 06, 2014#19782014-09-06T14:15+00:00

gary kreie wrote:Think how we would draw if we were in a division with teams nearby rather than teams as far away from St Louis as one can get. All so Dallas can stay in the East. We always draw well when we play nearby teams because folks from those cities live here. And we would have real rivalries like NFC North. Chicago fans took over Dallas stadium when they played since it was the Midwest.

It's a crime, really.

blzhrpmd2 · PostSep 06, 2014#19792014-09-06T14:46+00:00

The regional stuff is an easy excuse. That is the card we were dealt when a west coast team decides to move to the midwest. We would draw better if we won. Even in the Rams short history in STL we proved that as a fan base. This division junk is just like the Dome griping: people notice all the peripheral fluff when the team sucks......Dome is dark, they play the wrong teams, etc......when they win and compete against every team people show up and it is an energetic atmosphere. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case here for too long.

TheNewSaintLouis · PostSep 06, 2014#19802014-09-06T17:35+00:00

The same could be said about the Blues & Cardinals once they start having multiple losing seasons then you can see that fan base erode away & you can say that about every city in this country..
On a different scenario look at Kansas City the Royals are winning however fans aren't showing up to the games they had only 15,000 at the game on thursday but you aren't hearing rumblings about the Royals moving to Portland Oregon.
Also if the Rams move i rather them move back to LA than places like Louisville Austin Portland Albuquerque then that be a big slap in the face.
Im highly optimistic the Rams are staying here in Saint.Louis however if they don't throw a chocolate pudding pie in my face

Also what will help if the Rams would actually consider name change thats more representative of Saint.Louis

gary kreie · PostSep 07, 2014#19812014-09-07T21:54+00:00

blzhrpmd2 wrote:The regional stuff is an easy excuse. That is the card we were dealt when a west coast team decides to move to the midwest. We would draw better if we won. Even in the Rams short history in STL we proved that as a fan base. This division junk is just like the Dome griping: people notice all the peripheral fluff when the team sucks......Dome is dark, they play the wrong teams, etc......when they win and compete against every team people show up and it is an energetic atmosphere. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case here for too long.

I was at the game today. Were you there? If not, which excuses did you use?

dweebe · PostSep 07, 2014#19822014-09-07T22:16+00:00

The improved sound system at the Dome helps a lot. You can actually understand what is being said by the announcers and referees. Don't know why this took so long.

blzhrpmd2 · PostSep 07, 2014#19832014-09-07T23:42+00:00

Gary, yes I was there as I said I would be in an earlier post and I'm not sure why you're challenging me. My point in the previous statement was people say attendance would be better if we played regional games and I'm saying attendance would be better if the team was more competitive.

I'm questioning people making excuses for bad attendance when the winning percentage is really the only thing that I see as a real factor. The Rams fans' attendance will stink and the opposition's fans will be a presence if we play like we did today no matter who we play.

All that aside, the product on the field today was just awful. That was potentially the worst team on our schedule and we got owned. I'll continue to watch and attend, and hope this sad sack of a franchise sticks around. Total embarrassment today.

gary kreie · PostSep 07, 2014#19842014-09-07T23:44+00:00

dweebe wrote:The improved sound system at the Dome helps a lot. You can actually understand what is being said by the announcers and referees. Don't know why this took so long.

I agree. That was the highlight of the day. On some plays the Rams dominated on defense. Then we give up the long run or have a penalty.

PostSep 08, 2014#19852014-09-08T00:24+00:00

blzhrpmd2 wrote:Gary, yes I was there as I said I would be in an earlier post and I'm not sure why you're challenging me. My point in the previous statement was people say attendance would be better if we played regional games and I'm saying attendance would be better if the team was more competitive.

I'm questioning people making excuses for bad attendance when the winning percentage is really the only thing that I see as a real factor. The Rams fans' attendance will stink and the opposition's fans will be a presence if we play like we did today no matter who we play.

All that aside, the product on the field today was just awful. That was potentially the worst team on our schedule and we got owned. I'll continue to watch and attend, and hope this sad sack of a franchise sticks around. Total embarrassment today.

Sorry. You are correct. The team would draw more if it was competitive. I'm jealous of Indy. They had one crappy year and got Andrew Luck. And with the rookie salary cap. You'd think 10 years of high draft picks would produce a better product. The contrast between the MLB and NFL products given to this town could not be more stark.

jakektu · PostSep 08, 2014#19862014-09-08T00:58+00:00

I agree a winning team on the field is mostly all that matters. But I thought the dome looked terrible like they forgot to have the cleaning service show up and I had two terrible concessions experiences where they were inadequately staffed and out of key items including beer and hot dogs!

dweebe · PostSep 08, 2014#19872014-09-08T01:21+00:00

Hey Los Angeles; are you sure you want this team?

gary kreie · PostSep 08, 2014#19882014-09-08T01:42+00:00

Concessions were very slow in our area, and they could moly take cash for a while.

dweebe · PostSep 08, 2014#19892014-09-08T02:23+00:00

gary kreie wrote:Concessions were very slow in our area, and they could moly take cash for a while.

I swear they use clueless volunteers at about every stand now. At least at Blues and Cardinals games it's a mix and you can figure out which locations to avoid. Plus with Rams games we either tailgate or have a big breakfast/brunch to ensure we're good until after the game.

PostSep 08, 2014#19902014-09-08T02:28+00:00

gary kreie wrote:Sorry. You are correct. The team would draw more if it was competitive. I'm jealous of Indy. They had one crappy year and got Andrew Luck. And with the rookie salary cap. You'd think 10 years of high draft picks would produce a better product. The contrast between the MLB and NFL products given to this town could not be more stark.

If having the Rams play the way they do is karma's way of paying us back for the riches of the Cardinals; then I'll take some lean baseball years if it just means some decent football.

BTW: today was a horrible day to be stuck inside in a windowless dome instead of a full open-air or retractable roof stadium.

DogtownBnR · PostSep 08, 2014#19912014-09-08T12:39+00:00

Anyone have any official attendance figures? Anyone have a take on the crowd that actually showed up? how full/empty was the Dome yesterday? I heard the announcers say it was loud. I'm thankful that the Cards were not playing. Add in Loufest, Art Fest, an awesome day and the attendance could have been way worse.

dbInSouthCity · PostSep 08, 2014#19922014-09-08T13:06+00:00

That game could have been closer and better without that pick to end the 2nd half which turned into a TD for the Vikings, also we really shot ourselves in a foot with WR getting back to back 15 yard penalties that whipped out 35 yards in gains and also set us back another 30 yards.

D wasnt really that BAD, i mean we held AP to 21 carries for only 75 yards

I think we can still win the next 2 games and go into the bye week trying to find an actual solution at QB

PostSep 08, 2014#19932014-09-08T13:06+00:00

DogtownBnR wrote:Anyone have any official attendance figures? Anyone have a take on the crowd that actually showed up? how full/empty was the Dome yesterday? I heard the announcers say it was loud. I'm thankful that the Cards were not playing. Add in Loufest, Art Fest, an awesome day and the attendance could have been way worse.

55,919

blzhrpmd2 · PostSep 08, 2014#19942014-09-08T13:17+00:00

One of the post-mortem articles last night in the paper claimed over 55,000 tickets. There were a lot of Viking's fans as expected, but I thought the crowd around us (mostly in the Bud Light Party Zone-plenty of natural light over there for a break from spelunking) was very energetic and enthusiastic-Obviously that turned into disappointment, then to straight anger by the end.

I had some conversations with some Vikings fans, after multiple people kept claiming, hey, don't worry, this is a baseball town....yeah, and Minnesota is the land of a thousand lakes, does that have anything to do with football?
I'm so sick of that crap. Baseball has absolutely zero to do with the garbage that keeps spewing out of the tunnel each week, and it's not as if we had no fans there. Les Snead, Gregg Williams, Jeff Fisher all have nothing to do with the Cardinals and are supposedly good at their jobs in someone's opinion. There were a lot of people downtown excited to see some competitive football that got slapped in the face with a dose of reality.

Bad penalties from veterans and rookies alike and poor fundamental play are just difficult to watch. Combine with the fact that Minnesota destroys our "great" front seven with a mediocre offensive line that showed us what real blocking is. What do they do all week in Earth City? Here's a prediction: Minnesota will proceed to look very ordinary against New England next week.

MarkHaversham · PostSep 08, 2014#19952014-09-08T15:30+00:00

I caught a little of the game, and a little of the SEA-GB game, and it was amazing the difference in entertainment value between good teams and bad teams. It seemed like a snooze-fest even compared to the past few years' hopeless teams.

Is there a reason the AFC West and NFC West aren't realigned to group the west coast teams and the plains/mountain teams?

dweebe · PostSep 08, 2014#19962014-09-08T16:02+00:00

DogtownBnR wrote:Anyone have any official attendance figures? Anyone have a take on the crowd that actually showed up? how full/empty was the Dome yesterday?

The official numbers were 55,000 tickets but I'd guess 48 to 50,000 made it into the dome. However the visitors side of the dome was thick with purple wearing Vikings fans.

DogtownBnR wrote:I heard the announcers say it was loud. I'm thankful that the Cards were not playing. Add in Loufest, Art Fest, an awesome day and the attendance could have been way worse.

It was loud up until late in the second quarter when Hill got intercepted and that killed it.. When the Rams walked off the field down 13-0 for the first half the boos were pretty decent.

It could have been worse. I also contend the crowd would have been better if the game was outside. As usual you couldn't tell in your seats if it was 74 degrees and sunny, 85 and storming like hell or 20 degrees and snowing outside.

STLEnginerd · PostSep 08, 2014#19972014-09-08T19:52+00:00

It could have been worse. I also contend the crowd would have been better if the game was outside. As usual you couldn't tell in your seats if it was 74 degrees and sunny, 85 and storming like hell or 20 degrees and snowing outside.

But in December the reverse will be true. The whole dome complaint is such a red herring. Of course retractable roof serves both but I'd take dome over open air given the region's fickle weather.

ajwillikers · PostSep 08, 2014#19982014-09-08T20:30+00:00

I very much agree with you on it being a moot argument, especially now with the "Mallification" of NFL stadiums. Teams look like they're walking through a food court to the field at JerryWorld in Dallas.

dweebe · PostSep 08, 2014#19992014-09-08T20:47+00:00

ajwillikers wrote:I very much agree with you on it being a moot argument, especially now with the "Mallification" of NFL stadiums. Teams look like they're walking through a food court to the field at JerryWorld in Dallas.

BTW: did anyone see the mob of red wearing 49ers yesterday at the game at AT&T Stadium? At first I thought the game was in Santa Clara until I saw the star at mid-field.

gary kreie · PostSep 09, 2014#20002014-09-09T08:03+00:00

Rams were the only team that did not score a touchdown in week 1. Could Stan really go to the NFL brass and make the case he should be allowed to move because the community failed him?

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