Delta Air Lines Brings Back JFK Destination To STL
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-news/2025/delta-air-lines-brings-back-jfk-destination-to-stl
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-news/2025/delta-air-lines-brings-back-jfk-destination-to-stl
Of course its one of those small 2x2 Embreaers. But then again, beggars can't be choosers.chris fuller wrote: ↑May 07, 2025Delta Air Lines Brings Back JFK Destination To STL
https://www.flystl.com/newsroom/stl-news/2025/delta-air-lines-brings-back-jfk-destination-to-stl
Cleveland announces a $1.1 billion project for a new headhouse, relocated metro station, and new parking garage.
Headhouse looks tall and light-filled, but not mind-blowing. Very curious to see what a couple billion more will buy STL.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/loc ... s-underway
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Headhouse looks tall and light-filled, but not mind-blowing. Very curious to see what a couple billion more will buy STL.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/loc ... s-underway
https://itsaclevolution.com/
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Do we have any reason to worry about airport expansion in St. Louis given the current federal administration?
Dr. JShank, PhD in St. Louis Aviation Business may know better but I think you’d have three primary concerns from Trump administration.
1. A smaller federal government may not be able to review and approve as quickly. Things like advanced design, environmental, agreements will all have federal hands involved. That said, even Trumps terrible budget increased spending for aviation support.
2. General inflation, pesky interest rates, supply chain from tariffs could just make it more expensive or complicated to build. What was a four year project may turn into five or more due to supply chain alone.
3. A full blown recession that impacts travel may cause airlines to end or pause agreements to cover costs. This is especially precarious in STL as Southwest (the largest funder BY FAR) is in the middle of a milestone business pivot. They’re playing it more conservative while simultaneously redefining their brand. I can think of a dozen ways Southwest isn’t a Top 4 in 2030.
1. A smaller federal government may not be able to review and approve as quickly. Things like advanced design, environmental, agreements will all have federal hands involved. That said, even Trumps terrible budget increased spending for aviation support.
2. General inflation, pesky interest rates, supply chain from tariffs could just make it more expensive or complicated to build. What was a four year project may turn into five or more due to supply chain alone.
3. A full blown recession that impacts travel may cause airlines to end or pause agreements to cover costs. This is especially precarious in STL as Southwest (the largest funder BY FAR) is in the middle of a milestone business pivot. They’re playing it more conservative while simultaneously redefining their brand. I can think of a dozen ways Southwest isn’t a Top 4 in 2030.
^ I think Item 3 would be the real concern for Lambert expansion. All about Lambert's biggest airline funding its share of new terminal.
Current POTUS will be all in on highways and airways while the squeeze will be put on rail/transit.. Lambert will be just fine. Indirectly, Lambert will also be benefactor of current admin's desire for a big plus up on defense spending where Boeing/St Louis will be one of the winners even as proposed discretionary cuts will hurt rural Missourians.
Current POTUS will be all in on highways and airways while the squeeze will be put on rail/transit.. Lambert will be just fine. Indirectly, Lambert will also be benefactor of current admin's desire for a big plus up on defense spending where Boeing/St Louis will be one of the winners even as proposed discretionary cuts will hurt rural Missourians.
1. I’m not too worried about, but I think the point about it reviews being slowed down if the workforce is slashed is a valid concern.addxb2 wrote: ↑May 07, 2025Dr. JShank, PhD in St. Louis Aviation Business may know better but I think you’d have three primary concerns from Trump administration.
1. A smaller federal government may not be able to review and approve as quickly. Things like advanced design, environmental, agreements will all have federal hands involved. That said, even Trumps terrible budget increased spending for aviation support.
2. General inflation, pesky interest rates, supply chain from tariffs could just make it more expensive or complicated to build. What was a four year project may turn into five or more due to supply chain alone.
3. A full blown recession that impacts travel may cause airlines to end or pause agreements to cover costs. This is especially precarious in STL as Southwest (the largest funder BY FAR) is in the middle of a milestone business pivot. They’re playing it more conservative while simultaneously redefining their brand. I can think of a dozen ways Southwest isn’t a Top 4 in 2030.
2. I think the biggest impact here won’t necessarily be slowing it down, but more functional over flash. Probably more likely we get a something that is boring but still works really well, to keep down costs. I think utilitarian would be the term.
3. Probably the biggest risk of the 3, but at this moment it seems like everything is still moving along. I’d be surprised if they weren’t top 4 in 2030. I personally still think the moves they have made will end up being an overall win once things blow over a bit. Cutting free bags completely I do think was a misstep though.
I listened to the airport commission meeting today.
The new comptroller made a few remarks to start. Said she took notes on everything the state gave to KC for their airport as it was happening and plans to use that to make sure we get out fair share also.
Had an ordinance related to accepting grants from the state quicker. Basically so they could cut out all the processes they have to go thru with the city each time. They said it can take up to 6 months. This would streamline it so it doesn’t have to go through all the different channels anymore.
Parking shuttle and lot management is changing. Good discussion on this. Commissioners were not happy with the current operator. One commissioner mentioned a sign that says call for a shuttle, or something like that. Said that sign shouldn’t exist because if they run on the schedule they are paid to run on, no one would ever need to call for a shuttle. That said the new company will have the phones manned 24/7 so someone will always pick up if there is an issue. Sounds like a good outfit but we’ll see.
Rhonda said April checkpoint numbers were much closer to last year than the first qtr. Said leisure travel had fallen off a bit in the 1st qtr.
Some terminal talk. HoK hasn’t been officially signed yet but it sounded like it was close. 90% design will take 18 months. 60% should be done Sept 2026. That sounds behind schedule a bit to me but I’d need to relook at it.
Negotiations with the airlines is going well they are getting into some of the finer details at this point.
The new comptroller made a few remarks to start. Said she took notes on everything the state gave to KC for their airport as it was happening and plans to use that to make sure we get out fair share also.
Had an ordinance related to accepting grants from the state quicker. Basically so they could cut out all the processes they have to go thru with the city each time. They said it can take up to 6 months. This would streamline it so it doesn’t have to go through all the different channels anymore.
Parking shuttle and lot management is changing. Good discussion on this. Commissioners were not happy with the current operator. One commissioner mentioned a sign that says call for a shuttle, or something like that. Said that sign shouldn’t exist because if they run on the schedule they are paid to run on, no one would ever need to call for a shuttle. That said the new company will have the phones manned 24/7 so someone will always pick up if there is an issue. Sounds like a good outfit but we’ll see.
Rhonda said April checkpoint numbers were much closer to last year than the first qtr. Said leisure travel had fallen off a bit in the 1st qtr.
Some terminal talk. HoK hasn’t been officially signed yet but it sounded like it was close. 90% design will take 18 months. 60% should be done Sept 2026. That sounds behind schedule a bit to me but I’d need to relook at it.
Negotiations with the airlines is going well they are getting into some of the finer details at this point.
Southwest did not cut free bags completely, all Southwest cardholders still get at least 1 free bag per flight.
International Loads February (DOT)
Southwest Cabo 89.60%
Southwest Cancun 88.54%
Frontier Cancun81.49%
Alaska Puerto Vallarta 74.09%
AA Cancun 73.91%
Frontier Punta Cana 72.08%
AC Toronto 61.87%
LH Frankfurt 59.92%
International loads April (Customs)
LH Frankfurt 90.54% (37.4% foreign up from 33% last April)
Southwest Montego 76% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
AC Toronto 75.94% (53% foreign down from 55% last year)
Southwest Cabo 72.52% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
Frontier Punta Cana 54.38%
Southwest Cabo 89.60%
Southwest Cancun 88.54%
Frontier Cancun81.49%
Alaska Puerto Vallarta 74.09%
AA Cancun 73.91%
Frontier Punta Cana 72.08%
AC Toronto 61.87%
LH Frankfurt 59.92%
International loads April (Customs)
LH Frankfurt 90.54% (37.4% foreign up from 33% last April)
Southwest Montego 76% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
AC Toronto 75.94% (53% foreign down from 55% last year)
Southwest Cabo 72.52% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
Frontier Punta Cana 54.38%
It will be interesting to see what happens with the Southwest numbers once the bag charge kicks in. Industry-wide/other airports also on top of St. Louis' stats.jshank83 wrote: ↑May 09, 2025International Loads February (DOT)
Southwest Cabo 89.60%
Southwest Cancun 88.54%
Frontier Cancun81.49%
Alaska Puerto Vallarta 74.09%
AA Cancun 73.91%
Frontier Punta Cana 72.08%
AC Toronto 61.87%
LH Frankfurt 59.92%
International loads April (Customs)
LH Frankfurt 90.54% (37.4% foreign up from 33% last April)
Southwest Montego 76% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
AC Toronto 75.94% (53% foreign down from 55% last year)
Southwest Cabo 72.52% (last inbound for season, restarts June)
Frontier Punta Cana 54.38%
This seems like it could be a very good opportunity for STL to get more international flights.
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That’s what I was thinking. Even if just in North America.Auggie wrote:This seems like it could be a very good opportunity for STL to get more international flights.
DFW has doubled the size/cost of its new terminal project (adding a sixth terminal to the airport), from $1.7B and 15 gates to $4B, 31 gates. The terminal will be "self supported," with its own baggage claim, check in, and parking garage, linking to the rest of the airport via a new station on a pre-existing people mover.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... erminal-f/
A Dallas architecture critic notes that the design is functional, but not extraordinary.
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-enterta ... erminal-f/
I am tempering my expectations for a showpiece terminal in STL. This DFW project, already in progress (and using lower-cost modular construction) has a 30% larger budget for exactly half the number of gates, with many of the same other amenities (entire new baggage claim, parking garage, etc). Of course, with the new DFW terminal serving AA's hub, I assume there are costly demands for wide bodies and international flights that will not be as burdensome to STL.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... erminal-f/
A Dallas architecture critic notes that the design is functional, but not extraordinary.
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-enterta ... erminal-f/
I am tempering my expectations for a showpiece terminal in STL. This DFW project, already in progress (and using lower-cost modular construction) has a 30% larger budget for exactly half the number of gates, with many of the same other amenities (entire new baggage claim, parking garage, etc). Of course, with the new DFW terminal serving AA's hub, I assume there are costly demands for wide bodies and international flights that will not be as burdensome to STL.
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^I think you are right to temper expectations. With material prices going up and interest rates high, to keep prices down, I wouldn’t expect anything flashy. Unless they get some kind of outside investment which is probably doubtful
After all the storms, they've got Southwest planes parked everywhere tonight.
I'm seeing on FB that the WN planes parked on the tarmac and at unused gates all sustained hail damage. Looks like 7-8 planes total.
It appears like STL-Puerto Vallarta on Alaska will be back in 2026
Operated by Alaska Airlines:
St. Louis (STL) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR): Jan 24 – Apr 4
https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news ... o-in-2026/
Operated by Alaska Airlines:
St. Louis (STL) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR): Jan 24 – Apr 4
https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news ... o-in-2026/
American added two Mizzou football related flights for the Auburn and Oklahoma games.
Montgomery, AL down Oct 17 back Oct 19
Oklahoma City down Nov 21 back Nov 23
Montgomery, AL down Oct 17 back Oct 19
Oklahoma City down Nov 21 back Nov 23
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