Soulard Strip Malls

ecoabsence · PostNov 16, 2007#762007-11-16T18:30+00:00

Afftonguy78 wrote:Why is it so hard to come up with something different.

Expectations. More specifically, expectations from the alderman, tenants and the SLDC/PUD apparatus. So long as those who can throw stumbling blocks in place don't, developers aren't going to try hard for good design. Recent precedents set by Loughborough Commons and Georgian Square will resonate for decades.

matt · PostNov 20, 2007#772007-11-20T14:48+00:00

I had to visit Lowe's last week at Loughborough. What a huge disappointment and a nightmare. Shopping centers like this are built to an exact sameness so that real estate investers have a known, measured unit.

All I know is that I wouldn't set foot in any of the retailers there.

As for the Soulard strip center, I live only a few doors away but the product they're offering will not attract my interests or spending. There are far more attractive products within a good distance.

I think more city residents in these areas should send a message that one generic size does not fit. I hope Georgian Square will offer a better product.

Alex Ihnen · PostNov 20, 2007#782007-11-20T15:19+00:00

Matt wrote:As for the Soulard strip center, I live only a few doors away but the product they're offering will not attract my interests or spending.

I'd bet that the stores there will do great business as I believe those willing to forgoe convenience as part of an urban protest are in the minority. Hopefully you're not close enough to see the line that will stretch around the parking lot at Starbucks every morning!

This is just a theory, but I doubt that if these "strip malls" fail that anyone would be willing to build something more dense and urban. If they are wildly successful then some developer will build a more dense development with more retail. Until an area demonstrates that it can support x dollars/sq ft, two-level retail and expensive garage parking will not be built.

matt · PostNov 20, 2007#792007-11-20T19:14+00:00

Yea, I don't think I fit the profile of the targeted consumer. I think the Soulard center will target thru traffic more than area residents. One way to judge this theory will be the store hours.

jakektu · PostDec 12, 2007#802007-12-12T20:01+00:00

The Bread Co at 7th and Russell opened for business recently.

They close a little early though (5pm, Sat & Sun), but so do a lot of businesses on that stretch.

PostApr 29, 2010#812010-04-29T02:11+00:00

The large lot near S Broadway and Park is being torn up and has construction trailers on site. Anyone know what this is going to be?

Benton Park Jayhawk · PostJun 04, 2010#822010-06-04T21:44+00:00

Wow, so I can't believe nobody has reported on this. I usually come here to get all my news but I can't find any report of this. A freind of mine works construction and saw some satalite view of the property that says it's part of the Green Street St. Louis Economic Redevelopment Project. This piece is called Soulard Green and its a $150 million investment that will include 1 million sq ft of floor space. It will be divided into 2 phases, 33 acres in the first, 24 acres in second. Thats all he said.

The lack of talk on this makes me think maybe his plans were outdated but there is activity on this property now.

If this is for real, we can add it to our list of projects surpassing $1 Bil.

Can anyone confirm or deny this????

Alex Ihnen · PostJun 04, 2010#832010-06-04T21:49+00:00

You're looking for this: http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... en#p171888

Benton Park Jayhawk · PostJun 07, 2010#842010-06-07T21:08+00:00

So, after more research, I dont think the Soulard Green project includes the property that was brought up in this topic. The property in question is north of Soulard Green and on Broadway and Soulard Green does not butt up to Broadway according to this picture. So, i think its still a mystery.

jakektu · PostNov 23, 2010#852010-11-23T20:59+00:00

A sign went up for M&L Foods. Looks like they are moving to South Broadway from North Broadway because of the New Mississippi Bridge.

http://www.mlfoodsstl.com/about.html

Recently, the property and building that M & L resides in was purchased by the Missouri Department of Transportation in anticipation of the new bridge construction. M & L is preparing to move into a brand new facility with the latest in technological innovations complying with the newest food safety laws and regulations. We will also be one of the first companies in the industry to have a green-certified building in an effort to be more eco-friendly.

Appears to be another new green building, should fit in well with the previously mentioned Soulard Green.

downtown2007 · PostNov 29, 2010#862010-11-29T03:05+00:00

What is M&L foods?

moorlander · PostNov 29, 2010#872010-11-29T13:15+00:00

did you click on the link jake provided?

brickandmortar · PostNov 27, 2012#882012-11-27T22:11+00:00

This seems as a good of place to post this. Looks like a Dollar Tree is moving in to the old Starbucks/Breadco Strip Mall on Broadway. Starbucks is being demoed for more parking.

http://ilovesoulard.blogspot.com/2012/1 ... ulard.html

downtown2007 · PostNov 27, 2012#892012-11-27T23:24+00:00

Blah. Suburban type development + more parking + lackluster retail store = not exciting

jakektu · PostNov 28, 2012#902012-11-28T02:43+00:00

Crazy the Starbucks building is being torn down. It was new construction and only open a few months.

Too bad they didn't build the Starbucks by the Lafayette Walgreens instead of this one.

PostNov 28, 2012#912012-11-28T02:44+00:00

Great that this area is attracting Dollar Tree and Save-a-Lot as retailers.

Presbyterian · PostNov 28, 2012#922012-11-28T03:33+00:00

The Soulard Historic District only covers the blocks west of Broadway, which is apt, given that everything east of Broadway was bulldozed many decades ago. If you ever want to get depressed, just look for old depictions of Kosciusko.

Though I'm not crazy about surface parking, I won't miss an abandoned Starbucks drive-thru. Eventually, it'll all have to be (re-)bulldozed and replaced with something urban. Something like this. Oh, wait...

ebo · PostNov 29, 2012#932012-11-29T18:21+00:00

I really hope this doesn't put Globe Drug out of business. There are only so many places in the world where you can buy a Mark McGwire welcome mat, a Tiffany style Elvis lamp, a bottle of wine of dubious provenance and a pack of 1991 Donruss baseball cards in the same trip.

Alex Ihnen · PostNov 29, 2012#942012-11-29T18:30+00:00

They have '91 Donruss?!?!?! OK, so 800,000,000 packs were printed, so what? If true, I'm making a trip and hoping for a Mark Grace (yes, I was a Cubs fan then).

ebo · PostNov 29, 2012#952012-11-29T18:49+00:00

^Unfortunately, I had the brand wrong. They actually have 1991 Fleer cards (the banana yellow ones). An entire set is worth a whopping $10, but getting somebody a box of them for Christmas is fun. You'd be surprised how much time you'll spend opening wax packs and saying thing like, "Wow! I remember Pat Combs!"

Or the immortal Geronimo Pena.

Alex Ihnen · PostNov 29, 2012#962012-11-29T19:16+00:00

Fleer? Event better. Making a weekend run...

gone corporate · PostNov 29, 2012#972012-11-29T21:08+00:00

Alex: OT - Warehouse of Stuff has (or had until recently) packs of basketball cards from the late 80s to early 90s, including Donruss and Upper Deck. Can probably find an early Reggie Lewis in there. Some baseball cards, too, but not as many.

Focus: Globe Drug is pure awesomeness. Best thing they have is the pre-wrapped present, where they just fill a box full of random stuff, cover it in wrapping paper, put a bow on it, and sell as-is, contents unseen. I have a buddy in Soulard who'll buy his girlfriend random gift boxes, then sit back as she tries to figure out whether the contents were his idea or not & tries to interpret any symbolic meaning from all the random crap. Good times.

Dollar General won't be nearly as cool as Globe Drug is today.

insomniacafe · PostNov 29, 2012#982012-11-29T22:26+00:00

I am ashamed to say I've never actually been in Globe Drug. I intend to rectify this ASAP; the place sounds awesome.

jakektu · PostDec 24, 2012#992012-12-24T18:03+00:00

jakektu wrote:A sign went up for M&L Foods. Looks like they are moving to South Broadway from North Broadway because of the New Mississippi Bridge.

http://www.mlfoodsstl.com/about.html

Recently, the property and building that M & L resides in was purchased by the Missouri Department of Transportation in anticipation of the new bridge construction. M & L is preparing to move into a brand new facility with the latest in technological innovations complying with the newest food safety laws and regulations. We will also be one of the first companies in the industry to have a green-certified building in an effort to be more eco-friendly.
Appears to be another new green building, should fit in well with the previously mentioned Soulard Green.

PostDec 24, 2012#1002012-12-24T18:05+00:00

brickandmortar wrote:This seems as a good of place to post this. Looks like a Dollar Tree is moving in to the old Starbucks/Breadco Strip Mall on Broadway. Starbucks is being demoed for more parking.

http://ilovesoulard.blogspot.com/2012/1 ... ulard.html

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