RE: the building at the northeast corner of 12th and Ann. It is the former St. Joseph Croatian Church school and the church does indeed have a restriction on the building being used for overnight stay. In late 2019 there was significant interest for a boutique hotel to go in that spot, but it fell through. The church would like for it to be an office building. Don't get me wrong I would love for someone with enough foresight to view that as a ideal workplace. But in the meantime I hate to see it sit vacant when there is significant interest to make it something great again.
Soulard does not strike me as the first choice for a company to relocate its offices
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Soulard and South City as a whole seems like it is really hungry for a hotel. I understand AirBnB is pretty prevalent but it seems asinine that there are literally no hotels in the entirety of South City besides that cluster at 44 and Hampton.
We are in the process of planning our wedding and I would like to be within easy walking (or cheap Uber) distance to the hotel block which really narrows down our possible venue options to the central corridor.
We are in the process of planning our wedding and I would like to be within easy walking (or cheap Uber) distance to the hotel block which really narrows down our possible venue options to the central corridor.
Sounds like 1712 S 10th will have its side lot subdivided, could mean that an infill building in coming.
^^^^ That's disappointing. I've mentioned it before, but Way of Life Church is also hindering potential development by holding onto no less than 5 lots in the vicinity of their church with no interest in selling. Not to mention taking up two other potential plots with their parking lot.
^ Interesting. The one to the north or the one to the south? It would appear both can accommodate a single family or duplex.
^ Interesting. The one to the north or the one to the south? It would appear both can accommodate a single family or duplex.
So, basically, churches can sit on property tax-free for years, and then sell at a huge profit when they feel the time is ripe. Is this correct?
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Frustrating. Tax free landholdings should only apply to productive land uses. Vacant lots and surface parking lots should not be exempt from taxes.framer wrote:So, basically, churches can sit on property tax-free for years, and then sell at a huge profit when they feel the time is ripe. Is this correct?
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^More broadly, religions shouldn't be exempt from taxes period.
Well, if you don't understand why they are, you should probably go back and review your history and civics lessons.newstl2020 wrote: ↑Mar 27, 2021^More broadly, religions shouldn't be exempt from taxes period.
In any case, many inner city places of worship can't even afford to turn on the heat in the winter. So, all of the white, recovering-suburbanite, privileged progressives should go up to the north side and tell your fellow citizens that you have decided that the government will soon be seizing and auctioning their churches, schools, parking lots, fellowship halls, and community centers. And that, in the future, they're going to have to travel to the suburbs if they want to worship. For the greater good, of course.
Just let me make some popcorn first...
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^ fair enough, but there should still be limitations on the amount of tax-free property that religious institutions are allowed to accumulate. and i don't see why they should be allowed to dictate use constraints (beyond what zoning laws dictate) on for-sale real estate for which they don't even pay taxes.
Behind paywall and not sure if already part of a different thread or development but bizournal article on developer seeking zoning change for 300 unit apt on South Broadway. Anyone with better knowledge?
https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news ... 1#cxrecs_s
https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news ... 1#cxrecs_s
That’s in Denverdredger wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2021Behind paywall and not sure if already part of a different thread or development but bizournal article on developer seeking zoning change for 300 unit apt on South Broadway. Anyone with better knowledge?
https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news ... 1#cxrecs_s
$750k building permit application submitter for rehab of 700 Allen at 7th St by South Side Property LLC. Apts above, restaurant below.
^ Great news. I'm glad the whole place wasn't consumed by the BP.
Weird but I can see it now...quincunx wrote: ↑Apr 10, 2021$750k building permit application submitter for rehab of 700 Allen at 7th St by South Side Property LLC. Apts above, restaurant below.
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- Wonderful views of the BP Parking Lot and Gas Pumps!
- Walk to the Convenience Store!
- Get your car washed on the first floor!
It smells just like napalm in the morning.quincunx wrote: ↑Apr 11, 2021You forgot the benzene, yummy!
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^It's easy to pick on it, but I actually bet this will be a great property. It's in the middle of what is probably the single most walkable neighborhood in town. It's literally across from one of the prettiest churches in a city absolutely boiling over with beautiful churches. You'll look out your window and see what 99/100 people in the US would take to be a cathedral. (In most US sees it probably would be the cathedral.) The bells might be a tad loud of a Sunday morning. There is that. But you can walk to the market, any bar you could dream of, nerdy entertainments, live music of all sorts (if we get to play again, that is) and . . . I can't see much of a downside to that apartment. With a tiny bit of luck 7th gets a road diet and Soulard's run starts east, making the property even more desirable. But as it stands, that place'll be great.
Issued, Anyone know what it'll look like?quincunx wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2020$400k building permit application submitted for a town house at 1204 Lynch. I don't see it on the PRB agendas, maybe that's next.
Landmarks Association of St. Louis is rehabbing a long-vacant building at 1805-1807 S. 9th Street in the heart of Soulard. The project is quite an undertaking and very exciting to see it underway. I think it’s an ideal new home for Landmarks- nestled in a thriving neighborhood and a perfect opportunity to expand the organization’s programming, education, events and public engagement. In addition, it’s a living testament to the critical role Landmarks Association has in preserving the city’s built environment.
Check out the Landmarks website for more info, updates, photos and history:
https://www.landmarks-stl.org/news/land ... _facility/
Check out the Landmarks website for more info, updates, photos and history:
https://www.landmarks-stl.org/news/land ... _facility/
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^ Yep, I saw that a couple of weeks ago. Exciting stuff, can't wait to see how this beauty looks all fixed up. Now the only thing glaring in that immediate area is that pesky forever lot on the corner of 9th & Soulard...
Anyone want to take the over/under of when that lot will be built on? Betcha that lot is still nothing in 20 years.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑May 16, 2021^ Yep, I saw that a couple of weeks ago. Exciting stuff, can't wait to see how this beauty looks all fixed up. Now the only thing glaring in that immediate area is that pesky forever lot on the corner of 9th & Soulard...
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^I wouldn't bet against you any more than I'd bet the lot at 9th and Geyer will be anything but a parking lot in twenty years. Neither will change until people are mostly taking the bus. Until then Trinity, Molly's, and Hardshell will all continue to profit off their lots either directly or indirectly.
I'll take the under. I'll take the under if it was 2 years.dweebe wrote: ↑May 17, 2021Anyone want to take the over/under of when that lot will be built on? Betcha that lot is still nothing in 20 years.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑May 16, 2021^ Yep, I saw that a couple of weeks ago. Exciting stuff, can't wait to see how this beauty looks all fixed up. Now the only thing glaring in that immediate area is that pesky forever lot on the corner of 9th & Soulard...
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I would very excitedly take the under on any 20-year bet for 9th and Soulard.
I've seen renderings for a project at that site that fell through.
It's just a matter of time.
I've seen renderings for a project at that site that fell through.
It's just a matter of time.