Thanks! That would preclude a traditional 5 over 1 I think, though the Steelyard and those apartments on Russell show what a larger building could look like.stlnative wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2025Without a doubt.PeterXCV wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2025Is the site within Soulard's local historic district?
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... 8-2-10.pdf
Great use of the Compton & Dry map! Suppose there was never a street grid and I was wrong. Agree with your larger thought on what should go there.stlnative wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2025Was 10th street (Rosati) ever connected here? Doesn't seem like it. The plot back in 1875 it was the Anthony & Kahn's (Kuhn?) Brewery.
This site has been on every residents mind for the past year or so. It is a huge development opportunity, but needs to be done correctly. I hope there are some riders on the sale of the property with regards to the neighborhood.
Cramming this site with as many developer apartments as possible is not the winning idea and won't go over well with residents. There needs to be a good mix of single family housing, apartments, retail/commercial, public amenities.....it needs creative thought and planning to really fit well within the existing neighborhood and be successful for all.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4164sm.gp ... 51,0.329,0
Also I mispoke, 11th was Rosati, and I don't think Menard ever crossed the site. State St is now 12th. 10th street certainly did cross as posted above on the 1909 Sanborn.
Here is a picture of the site, I think taken from 2422 S 11th looking Southeast.
Here is a picture of the site, I think taken from 2422 S 11th looking Southeast.
^ Cool to see Max Feuerbacher's "Lion House" there at the SE corner of State (Now 12th) and Sidney. His Green Tree Brewery at the time was a bit down Sidney. (Figure 7 in the plate below, which is the one just east, and closer to the riverfront, from ^.) It later expanded or moved to the Gene Slay site. Also in the plate below is the Assumption Church and School (Figures 16 & 17.) I believe current 9th Street would be just east of the school. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4164sm.gp ... 54,0.217,0
The Soulard Parlour tour’s 50th anniversary is this weekend, with 6 houses, including the Artz house and 1 infill home, this is an amazing year for the tour and the first time since pre-COVID that the tour has had two days of tour groups.
https://www.soulard.org/parlour-tour
https://www.stlmag.com/history/a-look-a ... ct-houses/
https://www.soulard.org/parlour-tour
https://www.stlmag.com/history/a-look-a ... ct-houses/
New construction completed somewhat recently at 1318 Lami - it may be an addition to the house to the west?
It has been a vacant lot since at least the mid-1980s per a review of historic aerials.
It has been a vacant lot since at least the mid-1980s per a review of historic aerials.
Seems like it needs a fake porch at least, no?Miss Shell wrote: ↑3:03 PM - Aug 17I kinda hate that fake door.
Nail on the head!stldotage wrote:Seems like it needs a fake porch at least, no?Miss Shell wrote: ↑3:03 PM - Aug 17I kinda hate that fake door.
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I have no doubt that this was quite the investment, and they matched the existing building very well. But to spend all that money and add that fake door seems like a major design oversight. Why not just have a window instead?stldotage wrote:Miss Shell wrote: ↑3:32 PM - Aug 17Nail on the head!stldotage wrote: Seems like it needs a fake porch at least, no?
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Nonetheless, it's about as nice as a garage-plus gets!
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It may have been required by the Soulard historic district ordinance/rules? I'm not sure there though.Miss Shell wrote: ↑3:39 PM - Aug 17I have no doubt that this was quite the investment, and they matched the existing building very well. But to spend all that money and add that fake door seems like a major design oversight. Why not just have a window instead?stldotage wrote:
Nonetheless, it's about as nice as a garage-plus gets!
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same. there's weird, hanging doors all over the neighborhood like that. I like the fake door!framer wrote: ↑7:34 PM - Aug 17I like the door.
That garage/ADU likely cost more than $500K, btw. So, that door? $2.5+K. LOL
The burned out Bethlehem Mission Church has been acquired by Soulard Restoration Group. They are going to clean it out and see if they can find a way to redevelop it.
Here's the IG Reel on it: Soulard neighborhood restoration group gains control of 160-year-old burnt-out church as the organization plans to put new life into it.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdNPUpqFbXd/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdNPUpqFbXd/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
^Thank you. That's the ancestral church on my mom's side, so I'm really happy to see it in good hands. (I'm suddenly curious what happened with the GoFundMe that was set up immediately after it burned. Seeing as I tossed a little into the kitty and plugged it to mom's cousins.)
Nothing. That was the sculptor who had been renting the property. He seems like a well-intentioned guy, but the reality of the project was against him.symphonicpoet wrote:^Thank you. That's the ancestral church on my mom's side, so I'm really happy to see it in good hands. (I'm suddenly curious what happened with the GoFundMe that was set up immediately after it burned. Seeing as I tossed a little into the kitty and plugged it to mom's cousins.)