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MattnSTL wrote:To go along with the rumors, I've heard that land has already been bought by the Shriner's from BJC/WashU. This is from an unconfirmable source, but still some food for thought.

That is NOT the case. No agreement has been reached although talks are definitely in progress.

Thanks tubesocks, but I'm going to have to listen to ward 17 on this one.

Grover wrote:Thanks tubesocks, but I'm going to have to listen to ward 17 on this one.

They won't know anything before I do.

^ Intriguing, but I'm not completely convinced. I propose a scoop-off between tubesocks and ward17. Whomever can break news first on Shriner's move gets the award - all the $1 PBR's you can drink at Magee's.

^

I think Magee's just closed.

Son-of-a-Shriner! So let's make it drinks at the Billy Goat!



(BTW - what's going on at the Magee's building? I'd heard that the Gills own it - hopefully this means will be left standing. IMO - it was great to have a bar there and I hope it will be a restaurant. They should do a killer lunch and a decent dinner with the thousands working at the doorstep. Just bring down the green panelling and put in some windows!)

BTW, is Duffy's on the south side of 40 (at Boyle and Chouteau?) still open?

Grover wrote:^ Intriguing, but I'm not completely convinced. I propose a scoop-off between tubesocks and ward17. Whomever can break news first on Shriner's move gets the award - all the $1 PBR's you can drink at Magee's.

Oh, ward17 is a poster. I missed that the first time.



I'm all for any challenge that involves adult beverages, but I don't think I'd post anything that's not already public knowledge, or well-known by both parties involved and not considered confidential. But I'll be more than happy to clear up any misconceptions that I see posted. After all, I registered only because I saw this thread.



Shriners Hospital surgeons are primarily Washington University docs that practice at both Shriners and Children's Hospitals. And since Shriners has limited diagnostic capabilities, it often uses Children's facilities for certain tests. Clearly, having them in closer proximity is advantageous. Unfortunately, any construction will not occur until after the Highway 40 project is complete (coincidentally, not by design) so things will get worse before they get better.



As for Shriners current campus, clearly it's in the crosshairs of many developers, and Frontenac would love to grow their tax base. While they've been supportive of Shriners at their currently location, they won't miss them at all.



So, in the long run, Washington University physicians, Shriners Hospital patients, Children's Hospital, Frontenac, St. Louis City, and St. Louis County will all benefit from this move when it occurs. But like I said, think years, not months before that happens.

So this is it eh tubesocks? [mr. burns] Excellent. [/mr. burns]



You got anything other than a link to share?

Grover wrote:So this is it eh tubesocks? [mr. burns] Excellent. [/mr. burns]



You got anything other than a link to share?

Should be a signed agreement to purchase the land in the next couple weeks, then it's pretty much a done deal that Shriners is moving. Things will get rolling this summer, and there's likely to be at least a symbolic groundbreaking next year when some 10,000 Shriners flock to St. Louis for their annual powwow, followed first by a parking garage, then a whole new hospital.

:hyper:



This is sweet.

DrDrew wrote:My guess for a shriner's location would be directly across 40 from the gasometer, in what is now a big WashU parking lot.

toot

tubesocks wrote:

Grover wrote:So this is it eh tubesocks? [mr. burns] Excellent. [/mr. burns]



You got anything other than a link to share?

Should be a signed agreement to purchase the land in the next couple weeks, then it's pretty much a done deal that Shriners is moving. Things will get rolling this summer, and there's likely to be at least a symbolic groundbreaking next year when some 10,000 Shriners flock to St. Louis for their annual powwow, followed first by a parking garage, then a whole new hospital.

OK, no parking garage, but the new hospital is still coming. 6-8 stories on stilts with parking underneath, presumably for all the mini-cars the Shriners drive. Break ground (at least symbolically) during the Shriners' Imperial Session next July, building up and hospital open by say.....Late 2011?

^ So will they share some of the existing parking facilities? It doesn't seem as though there would be enough parking below the building and underground parking doesn't seem to make sense with all the land available. Though, I'd love to see it underground. How many sq ft and how big's the footprint?

Let's hope the parking level is enclosed somehow. I think those "buildings on stilts" look really tacky. I mean, it's not like we're expecting a storm-surge or anything.

^ True and eventhough this will likely be a fairly isolated building, it's nice to have some street life - sidewalks, landscaping, nice street-level entrances . . .

Where will the new Shriner's hospital be located in the complex?

SW corner of Clayton and Newstead? I'm guessing, but I think someone told me that.

^How many of those buildings are for the med center?

I guess it's true - Everything's bigger in Texas.