Good call on HHGregg.
Louis Vuitton is not a major retailer
The hotels you mentioned are all franchises.
Louis Vuitton is not a major retailer
The hotels you mentioned are all franchises.
Sorry KB - didn't see "major" retailers.
So to sum up "major" - then I would say: Saks, Nieman, Menards, HH Gregg
Most "major" retailers are now everywhere.
As for the hotels... I was just adding those. Yes Franchises, but unique to STL and Missouri/KS.
anywho... I don't know why I even posted in this thread.
So to sum up "major" - then I would say: Saks, Nieman, Menards, HH Gregg
Most "major" retailers are now everywhere.
As for the hotels... I was just adding those. Yes Franchises, but unique to STL and Missouri/KS.
anywho... I don't know why I even posted in this thread.
matguy, you shouldn't feel bad about your posting. The thread itself is confusing. The title of the thread reads, "Retailers Exclusive to St. Louis". It doesn't indicate "major" until you pop open the thread to read the first posting.
But what is "major"?
To me, "major" means (or is kind of implied) that a national (or international) retailer is "major" when it has stores in various markets and is well known and almost every city wants one i.e. IKEA.
The author did not specify boutique vs. big box. A boutique can be "major", in my opinion. Louis Vuitton is a "major" boutique as is Adriano Goldschmied. Whenever a boutique is spread across the country and globe, it is "major". St. Louis is in good company - NYC, SF, Tokyo, Beverly Hills, Miami - with its Adriano Goldschmied boutique store.
I think St. Louis has a tendency to get national and international stores first more often, but truthfully, you will find stores in Kansas City that you will not find in St. Louis and vice versa.
St. Louis, because of its size, might have more of the same (2 Nordstrom stores, for example).
But what is "major"?
To me, "major" means (or is kind of implied) that a national (or international) retailer is "major" when it has stores in various markets and is well known and almost every city wants one i.e. IKEA.
The author did not specify boutique vs. big box. A boutique can be "major", in my opinion. Louis Vuitton is a "major" boutique as is Adriano Goldschmied. Whenever a boutique is spread across the country and globe, it is "major". St. Louis is in good company - NYC, SF, Tokyo, Beverly Hills, Miami - with its Adriano Goldschmied boutique store.
I think St. Louis has a tendency to get national and international stores first more often, but truthfully, you will find stores in Kansas City that you will not find in St. Louis and vice versa.
St. Louis, because of its size, might have more of the same (2 Nordstrom stores, for example).
I agree Arch City and sorry Mat (was just trying to keep the discussion on point-while you pointed out a lot of good things), I view a Major retailer as a top 100 in sales. But regardless, for the most part KC and StL have mostly the same retailers with the exception of Saks, Nieman, HHGregg, and maybe a couple others. KC has IKEA, Nebraska Furniture Mart, and several others that we don't have. Oh well. Not a big deal.
Based on my experience as a retail commercial real estate broker, sometimes it's not the city/market/trade area that causes a retailer to pick one over the other, it's just having the right site and deal terms best for the retailer that ends up resulting in them picking a KC over St. Louis, or Indy over St. Louis, or vice versa. Hence, IKEA. KC has the right site (highway visibility, deliverable site, and a city willing to play ball). We had a city willing to play ball, great site, but undeliverable due a few sellers unwilling to sell. My guess is you'll see IKEA in the next 5 years either at the Chrysler plant site in Fenton, Richmond Heights as planned (if they can get the people to sell), or Northpark.
Based on my experience as a retail commercial real estate broker, sometimes it's not the city/market/trade area that causes a retailer to pick one over the other, it's just having the right site and deal terms best for the retailer that ends up resulting in them picking a KC over St. Louis, or Indy over St. Louis, or vice versa. Hence, IKEA. KC has the right site (highway visibility, deliverable site, and a city willing to play ball). We had a city willing to play ball, great site, but undeliverable due a few sellers unwilling to sell. My guess is you'll see IKEA in the next 5 years either at the Chrysler plant site in Fenton, Richmond Heights as planned (if they can get the people to sell), or Northpark.
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This topic does not require in-depth analysis, but I admit that my wording could have been more specific. I meant national/international chains, regardless of rank or size.
I read several IKEA-KC articles and a number of then mention how they beat out St. Louis and how some were surprised KC got it over STL. Some almost brag or cheapshot STL.
What retailers are exclusive to St. Louis (not in other parts of MO or KC metro).
Some examples were provided, like Neuman, Saks ... etc. I know there is a Menards in Jeff City, so that is not exclusive to STL. For some, a large variety of national /international retail, especially trendy and unique chains like IKEA, validate a city in the retail sense. I think STL has come a long way in 20 years. I'd like to see that trend continue. Anything from Cars, food and clothing, to household and hardware.
I'm just guessing, don't know for sure, but are there any other Lamborghini or Jaguar dealerships in Missouri. I think KC is just now getting an REI.
I read several IKEA-KC articles and a number of then mention how they beat out St. Louis and how some were surprised KC got it over STL. Some almost brag or cheapshot STL.
What retailers are exclusive to St. Louis (not in other parts of MO or KC metro).
Some examples were provided, like Neuman, Saks ... etc. I know there is a Menards in Jeff City, so that is not exclusive to STL. For some, a large variety of national /international retail, especially trendy and unique chains like IKEA, validate a city in the retail sense. I think STL has come a long way in 20 years. I'd like to see that trend continue. Anything from Cars, food and clothing, to household and hardware.
I'm just guessing, don't know for sure, but are there any other Lamborghini or Jaguar dealerships in Missouri. I think KC is just now getting an REI.
Well if we're expanding to cars, as far as I know, St. Louis is the only metro area in Missouri to have dealerships for Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Maserati, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Lotus, and Aston Martin.DogtownBnR wrote:This topic does not require in-depth analysis, but I admit that my wording could have been more specific. I meant national/international chains, regardless of rank or size.
I read several IKEA-KC articles and a number of then mention how they beat out St. Louis and how some were surprised KC got it over STL. Some almost brag or cheapshot STL.
What retailers are exclusive to St. Louis (not in other parts of MO or KC metro).
Some examples were provided, like Neuman, Saks ... etc. I know there is a Menards in Jeff City, so that is not exclusive to STL. For some, a large variety of national /international retail, especially trendy and unique chains like IKEA, validate a city in the retail sense. I think STL has come a long way in 20 years. I'd like to see that trend continue. Anything from Cars, food and clothing, to household and hardware.
I'm just guessing, don't know for sure, but are there any other Lamborghini or Jaguar dealerships in Missouri. I think KC is just now getting an REI.
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I hope we have our eyes on elevating STL beyond just a rivalry with KC. And, let's make sure to cheer on their successes; what's good for KC, and what's good for STL, is good for all of us in MO.
Remember that companies positioning themselves in KC are pursuing different markets. They're basically looking to attract shoppers visiting the big city in the Great Plains, basically anything East of the Rockies and South of Minnesota. While the KC Metro Area has strong demand pull, it's the states of Kansas, Nebraska, and Oklahoma that are also served with KC-based stores. I'd honestly expect them to have even more unique offerings than STL.
Remember that companies positioning themselves in KC are pursuing different markets. They're basically looking to attract shoppers visiting the big city in the Great Plains, basically anything East of the Rockies and South of Minnesota. While the KC Metro Area has strong demand pull, it's the states of Kansas, Nebraska, and Oklahoma that are also served with KC-based stores. I'd honestly expect them to have even more unique offerings than STL.
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^However, what is good for KC KS is not good for STL MO or MO in general. It seems like a lot business is heading to the KS side. It has become a huge point of contention in KC. It is a MO vs. KS thing. It is not just a KU vs. MU thing over there. I think KC'ers are much more into the "rivalry" (STL vs. KC) because they feel they are slighted and looked down upon by STL'ers. I agree with what you are saying, but when it comes to jobs (and IKEA 
) KC is the competition. Why are companies like Harley and Ford in KC and not here? Who knows, but any Midwest town is competition for STL when it comes to jobs. Apparently, Connecticut is competition as well. I saw a comment below a KC vs. STL
thread on some blog, where a KC resident said he hates STL so much, it makes
him feel good to see the weather channel leave us off the map in favor of KC.
LAME!!!
) KC is the competition. Why are companies like Harley and Ford in KC and not here? Who knows, but any Midwest town is competition for STL when it comes to jobs. Apparently, Connecticut is competition as well. I saw a comment below a KC vs. STL thread on some blog, where a KC resident said he hates STL so much, it makes
him feel good to see the weather channel leave us off the map in favor of KC.
LAME!!!
REI. Container Store. WHOLE FOODS.
Surely some others outside Brentwood Square, right?
Surely some others outside Brentwood Square, right?
Kansas City has Whole Foods. Is getting REI. Great call on Container Store
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DogtownBnR wrote:^However, what is good for KC KS is not good for STL MO or MO in general. It seems like a lot business is heading to the KS side. It has become a huge point of contention in KC. It is a MO vs. KS thing. It is not just a KU vs. MU thing over there. I think KC'ers are much more into the "rivalry" (STL vs. KC) because they feel they are slighted and looked down upon by STL'ers. I agree with what you are saying, but when it comes to jobs (and IKEA
thread on some blog, where a KC resident said he hates STL so much, it makes
him feel good to see the weather channel leave us off the map in favor of KC.
LAME!!!
The Kansas side of KC area has all the money. Overland Park, Leawood, and Shawnee Mission arewas are their "West County." And I don't care if someone in KC is like KC better than StL. KC has a lot to offer.
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I know KC doesn't have a Qdoba, but they have a whole bunch of Chipotle restaurants. It seems there's one ever 3 miles or so. Alas, they don't get to enjoy the queso options inside their burritos 
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The key is to get the retailers that are not already located here to set up shop downtown. It would be the only location in the region that would draw people from all over the region instead of opting for the nearest location.
How can we do this? Maybe offer a pop up store front or offer a temporary short term lease for one of these unique retailers?
How can we do this? Maybe offer a pop up store front or offer a temporary short term lease for one of these unique retailers?
KC used to have Qdoba but KC has so many real Mexican places from every region of Mexico that it views places like that to be too gringo. KC does have a lot of Chipotle though and also Freebirds from W Coast, which STL does not have.WestCounty21 wrote:I know KC doesn't have a Qdoba, but they have a whole bunch of Chipotle restaurants. It seems there's one ever 3 miles or so. Alas, they don't get to enjoy the queso options inside their burritos
A few other things KC has is Microsoft store, Moosejaw and a few other exclusives on The Plaza. KC had Costco before STL did, STL had Trader Joes before KC. KC used to have Saks but is outdated compared to Halls. KC got a Michael Kors store then STL later. It's not a big deal.
Both cities eventually get what the other has. STL will eventually get Ikea. Who is the one with inferiority complex here.
STL has a Microsoft store at the Galleria. Here's the link: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... store.html
So STL recently added Microsoft, though it looks like a holiday store. Overland Park has a permanent one, with classes. Like I said, both cities eventually get the same things. KC's Plaza does have a lot standards like H&M, B&N and Banana Republic that build flagship class stores like Michigan Ave, compared to mall class. Plaza has Standard Style and some boutiques from E Coast like Free People and others I can't think of. KC has a couple Lego stores, STL will probably get one within a year.
Lego Store coming in the Spring-
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... re-at.html
Surprised that there was none here before
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... re-at.html
Surprised that there was none here before
^ They really have a small number of stores considering. So not surprised it took a while for one to pop up nor has Lego had strong financials in recent years. What I'm surprised about was the fact that Santa could get a lego for myself, I mean for my 7 seven yr old boy cheaper through Amazon/ToysRUs then their flagship website.
What I would be interesting to know or at least to me, how much competition was there between the mall owners to land this lease? This store will draw families with income to spend.
What I would be interesting to know or at least to me, how much competition was there between the mall owners to land this lease? This store will draw families with income to spend.
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I imagine the Galleria would have wanted this store -- "where the best stores have their best store" -- but I can see the young family demographic pulling it further west.
Tesla Motors will be opening their new service center in u-city soon.
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 18a65.html
There are a couple shots of a tesla showroom in the article. Would be cool to see one go in at the galleria or Frontenac.
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 18a65.html
There are a couple shots of a tesla showroom in the article. Would be cool to see one go in at the galleria or Frontenac.
Permanent location coming next year.kcmax wrote:So STL recently added Microsoft, though it looks like a holiday store. Overland Park has a permanent one, with classes. Like I said, both cities eventually get the same things. KC's Plaza does have a lot standards like H&M, B&N and Banana Republic that build flagship class stores like Michigan Ave, compared to mall class. Plaza has Standard Style and some boutiques from E Coast like Free People and others I can't think of. KC has a couple Lego stores, STL will probably get one within a year.
Microsoft to open store at the St. Louis Galleria: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... sw.twitter
Just read that KC (KS side) is getting a Title Nine (www.titlenine.com) - upscale womens sporty/lifestyle clothing retailer. I think most of their stores are located West, but there are some in Chicago, Madison, WI, etc. Northern Cal/Colorado/PacNW sporty sort of vibe; would be nice to get such as store in StL.