^ I posted the separate Park East tower rendering a while back on the corporate thread.... Milwaukee is one of the few Great Lakes/Rust Belt cities I'm not very familiar with but it looks like they got some good things going on.
I think I missed something - separate Park East Tower rendering??? What?roger wyoming II wrote:I posted the separate Park East tower rendering a while back on the corporate thread.
This is interesting http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... i-bar.html
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^ beat you to it before jsbru went all Milwaukee is so great on us!
roger wyoming II wrote:This is kind of cool... Aaron Perlut is partnering on the Tiny Bar, which will go into the lobby area of the old Bride's House building that was renovated for Elasticity offices last year.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... l?page=all
So this tiny spot will be next to the Bridge. Maybe the Left Bank Books spot can be subdivided into 3 or 4 small Locust store fronts and we can have Diminutive Row. Small's Teas closed on Cherokee, but maybe it could re-open here; if the state legislature didn't ban show rooms we could have had the Fiat place as well.
sorry about that confusion as I can see you thinking a second CWE tower! But that was in reference to a Milwaukee office tower going up and posted in response to jsbru's comments.wabash wrote:I think I missed something - separate Park East Tower rendering??? What?roger wyoming II wrote:I posted the separate Park East tower rendering a while back on the corporate thread.
Since Milwaukee was brought up, I thought I'd mention this outlook on downtown Cleveland retail in this story about a mixed-use redevelopment of a historic office building into retail and 125 market rate apartments:
"We think demand is there for quite a bit of retail," said Nico Bolzan, president of Millennia Housing Capital Ltd., the financing arm of the Valley View-based family of companies. "We could have an office tenant coming in. We could have retail and a restaurant. We have a lot of demand but nothing lined up."
A handful of restaurateurs have inquired about the building, said Rico Pietro of Cushman & Wakefield/Cresco Real Estate, the Independence-based brokerage marketing the retail space. More notably, he added, Cresco is fielding calls from national clothing retailers - chains that wouldn't have looked twice at downtown a few years ago.
Now a larger residential population, of roughly 13,000 people, and a nationwide surge of interest in urban development has made Cleveland a contender, if not a slam dunk, for stores. Pietro wouldn't identify specific tenants who have asked about the 11-story Garfield Building, which features an ornate lobby long occupied by National City Bank.
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index ... cart_river
I think downtown Cleveland is moving at a faster pace than ours, but I hope our downtown brokers are also fielding such calls.
"We think demand is there for quite a bit of retail," said Nico Bolzan, president of Millennia Housing Capital Ltd., the financing arm of the Valley View-based family of companies. "We could have an office tenant coming in. We could have retail and a restaurant. We have a lot of demand but nothing lined up."
A handful of restaurateurs have inquired about the building, said Rico Pietro of Cushman & Wakefield/Cresco Real Estate, the Independence-based brokerage marketing the retail space. More notably, he added, Cresco is fielding calls from national clothing retailers - chains that wouldn't have looked twice at downtown a few years ago.
Now a larger residential population, of roughly 13,000 people, and a nationwide surge of interest in urban development has made Cleveland a contender, if not a slam dunk, for stores. Pietro wouldn't identify specific tenants who have asked about the 11-story Garfield Building, which features an ornate lobby long occupied by National City Bank.
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index ... cart_river
I think downtown Cleveland is moving at a faster pace than ours, but I hope our downtown brokers are also fielding such calls.
Thanks for the clarification on Park East Tower. I was hoping it had something to do with the CWE.
Speaking of which, Cleveland could be moving faster on retail than Downtown (it wouldn't take much), but I wouldn't be surprised if Opus is fielding calls for their 10,000 sq.ft. of retail halfway between a Lululemon & Whole Foods.
Speaking of which, Cleveland could be moving faster on retail than Downtown (it wouldn't take much), but I wouldn't be surprised if Opus is fielding calls for their 10,000 sq.ft. of retail halfway between a Lululemon & Whole Foods.
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And near Patagonia and Free People... forget when that gets underway though.wabash wrote:Thanks for the clarification on Park East Tower. I was hoping it had something to do with the CWE.
Speaking of which, Cleveland could be moving faster on retail than Downtown (it wouldn't take much), but I wouldn't be surprised if Opus is fielding calls for their 10,000 sq.ft. of retail halfway between a Lululemon & Whole Foods.
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Coming to downtown, a new take on the ‘mini bar’
http://m.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2 ... twt&r=full
http://m.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2 ... twt&r=full
Milwaukee's my hometown, so I'm pretty familiar with it as I go back on holidays. It also introduced me to John O. Norquist--who later founded Congress for New Urbanism--and who, of course, was responsible for tearing down the Park East freeway.
It's got its share of problems and suburban cynics/nihilists/haters, but its downfall wasn't as great as Detroit/St. Louis/Cleveland. It also has no train at all so far, so St. Louis is ahead of them in that regard. The suburbs there are REALLY opposed to any sort of public transit at all.
It's got its share of problems and suburban cynics/nihilists/haters, but its downfall wasn't as great as Detroit/St. Louis/Cleveland. It also has no train at all so far, so St. Louis is ahead of them in that regard. The suburbs there are REALLY opposed to any sort of public transit at all.
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One of the nice things about downtown is that we did get a larger grocer than a lot of other cities... but wow, Cleveland will be getting something special when their's opens next month:
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http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/i ... rt_gallery
I don't think Cincinnati and Pittsburgh currently have full service groceries.
http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/i ... rt_gallery
I don't think Cincinnati and Pittsburgh currently have full service groceries.
^There's a Kroger in OTR, which is really bad (especially considering the corporate HQ is a few blocks away). I think there are currently plans for a Fields Foods style market in one of the office building to apartment conversions.
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^ yeah, I was thinking of a grocery in the thick of things downtown like Culinaria that is easily walkable for residents and workers. That Heinen's in Cleveland is very well-centered downtown like ours and on the Health Line BRT running down Euclid. Detroit is kind of like the Cincy situation where it has had a Whole Foods in Midtown for several years now... not too far from downtown but not quite in the CBD; the short trip for downtown Detroiters will be even shorter though when their M-1 Streetcar line opens up.
Something I hope that comes to pass before too long is a market opening up in Downtown West. Doesn't need to be as big as Culinaria, but something along the lines of Local Harvest or the old City Grocers would be great and a strong marker of downtown's health.
Something I hope that comes to pass before too long is a market opening up in Downtown West. Doesn't need to be as big as Culinaria, but something along the lines of Local Harvest or the old City Grocers would be great and a strong marker of downtown's health.
Probably not getting a CVS/Walgreens in the Park Pacific/Tucker garage. Papa Johns coming soon sign in SE corner.
I think that just moves them almost across the street from where I believe they had to leave due to the reconstruction of the garage that they were previously in.
I think that just moves them almost across the street from where I believe they had to leave due to the reconstruction of the garage that they were previously in.
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^ musical pizza chairs.... so if I get my directions right this will be the spot that wraps around Tucker and Pine? That will still leave a significant amount of square footage fronting Tucker & Olive but I'm not sure how much a typical downtown CVS/Walgreen's needs.
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Shake Shack (SHAK) went public today. Danny Meyer doing the media rounds, all smiles....reminds me of Jack Dorsey recently.....
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Over at the state of downtown thread, true-dope pointed to a Downtown STL video where the Millennium Center rep said they are working on bringing in a furniture store. I'm not sure if its a good or bad thing to be so close to Niche, but it also is an indicator that the residential action increasingly seems to be in the CBD as opposed to Downtown West.
In its roadshow in support of today's IPO, Shake Shack has been saying that they plan on opening ten stores a year. It's only a matter of time.
So we Meyer should throw his hometown a brittle bone sometime within the next decade? Sorry, I've gotten a little turned off by guys like him and Dorsey who seem unwilling to do things that could benefit the city in very positive perception and economic ways.wabash wrote:In its roadshow in support of today's IPO, Shake Shack has been saying that they plan on opening ten stores a year. It's only a matter of time.
It might be and probably is unfair. And for all I know, they're investing behind the scenes. But I wish they'd do something that made a bigger statement.
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Put it in Forest Park since Forest Park Forever is one of only a handful of forward-thinking entities we have in town.
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Meyer should open one at the old Houlihan's spot at Union Station. BOOM
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What about here? This building is vacant right?
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.626702, ... PCRu9Q!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.626702, ... PCRu9Q!2e0
Getting OT here, because it's not Downtown, but this will be a nice, high profile, high foot-traffic location with ample outdoor seating opportunities:
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