Tower grove is peaking - if this rain let’s up…
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^I had no idea there'd ever been that round tower there.
There was also this very cool Mid-Century church on Beaumont, just north of Market (Holy Cross Lutheran Church for the Deaf). The congregation moved away, and A.G. Edwards razed the church in 2005. It's now just a grassy lot, with the church steeple remaining.
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That was the Rodeway Inn. Made a cool mark on the skyline, sucks it’s gone. St. Louis once had three round towers- now we’re down to one (Millennium Hotel). Which is why I really hope (against the odds) that it is preserved.
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As I recall that was the church that did services in American Sign Language. In my youth I went to a sister congregation and they would send someone out to give a presentation from time to time. Was sorry to hear when A. G. Edwards knocked it down.framer wrote: ↑Apr 24, 2022There was also this very cool Mid-Century church on Beaumont, just north of Market (Holy Cross Lutheran Church for the Deaf). The congregation moved away, and A.G. Edwards razed the church in 2005. It's now just a grassy lot, with the church steeple remaining.
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What was the third tower?stlgasm wrote: ↑Apr 24, 2022That was the Rodeway Inn. Made a cool mark on the skyline, sucks it’s gone. St. Louis once had three round towers- now we’re down to one (Millennium Hotel). Which is why I really hope (against the odds) that it is preserved.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Apr 23, 2022^I had no idea there'd ever been that round tower there.
Don't know if you're counting only the City proper, but there is also the Lewis and Clark Tower in the County: http://www.beltstl.com/top-of-towers/stlgasm wrote: ↑Apr 24, 2022That was the Rodeway Inn. Made a cool mark on the skyline, sucks it’s gone. St. Louis once had three round towers- now we’re down to one (Millennium Hotel). Which is why I really hope (against the odds) that it is preserved.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Apr 23, 2022^I had no idea there'd ever been that round tower there.
^ Is it still standing? It’s been condemned for close to 10 years I think. Originally was supposed to be two towers:
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bprop wrote: ↑Apr 24, 2022Don't know if you're counting only the City proper, but there is also the Lewis and Clark Tower in the County: http://www.beltstl.com/top-of-towers/stlgasm wrote: ↑Apr 24, 2022That was the Rodeway Inn. Made a cool mark on the skyline, sucks it’s gone. St. Louis once had three round towers- now we’re down to one (Millennium Hotel). Which is why I really hope (against the odds) that it is preserved.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Apr 23, 2022^I had no idea there'd ever been that round tower there.
I was including only the city proper, but yes, the Lewis & Clark Tower definitely qualifies and it would be tragic to lose that one too.
Why is there an ordinance against loitering at night specifically in this one little unremarkable triangle of land in St. Louis Hills?
https://goo.gl/maps/WtXr8ho5yNNTKeLn8
https://goo.gl/maps/WtXr8ho5yNNTKeLn8
15.49.010 - Loitering prohibited.
No person shall loiter, idle, wander, stroll, play or otherwise be in or upon the area, which is bounded by Prather Avenue on the East, Devonshire Avenue on the North, and Nottingham Avenue on the South between the hours of ten p.m. and six a.m. throughout the year.
(1994 C., § 15.49.010; Ord. No. 61476, § 1, 1989.)
I bet there’s a good story. Having lived a block from there, Ted Drewes customers would camp out there and eat custard. I’m guessing it tended to get out of control some warm nights with West County/private school douche-bros high-giving each other until the wee hours.
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Looks like a nice wander, if perhaps a warm day for it. Well done!
I'd be curious to see, what are some of your favorite views and/or "big city" photos you all have. Like photos of Saint Louis that look like they belong in Toronto, Chicago, or New York.
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^That's an oddly complicated question, since "big city" can mean different things to different people. The density of buildings is obvious, and we have a little of that, but our skyline is . . . distinctive.
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For reasons.
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And hard to confuse with other cities.
There are a few concrete canyons, but apart from a few blocks of Olive and Locust most are too broad or too low.
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Neon helps, of course.
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But ironically, I'd say it's a layering of things, or a complexity of things that really does it for me. Layers of infrastructure, one atop the other, feels "big city."
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Which leads me to one of the big winners: nothing says big city like a subway:
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And sure, we have very little underground, but we really do have some. And if you're visiting from out of town you have decent odds of using it.
Another thing that says "big city" to me is a complex interlayering of relatively dense and disparate uses in a variety of ages: row houses, vertical warehouses, urban powerplants, old industry, new buildings and old buildings side by side:
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There are to me specific types of buildings that say "big city" all by themselves, without the need of any additional context. And we have quite a few prime examples:
The great cathedral
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The historic arcade
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The big city hall
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The central library
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(Especially when crowded with people for some kind of civic event: in this case a free concert.)
And of course the grand theatre:
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You're simply not going to find a theatre of that size in most cities. And we have several. We have new theatres, old theatres, opera houses, concert halls, arenas, stadia, movie palaces, ballrooms, and clubs as big as they come and as intimate as you could wish. We have some great ones and some awful ones. Places for experimental theatre and grandly traditional. Room for every style of music under the sun. Culture says big city to me. Entertainment. Art. Sport. Every city has bread, but only the great ones have circuses.
To me, there's really nothing that says "I have arrived" quite like this:
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For reasons.

And hard to confuse with other cities.
There are a few concrete canyons, but apart from a few blocks of Olive and Locust most are too broad or too low.


Neon helps, of course.

But ironically, I'd say it's a layering of things, or a complexity of things that really does it for me. Layers of infrastructure, one atop the other, feels "big city."





Which leads me to one of the big winners: nothing says big city like a subway:

And sure, we have very little underground, but we really do have some. And if you're visiting from out of town you have decent odds of using it.
Another thing that says "big city" to me is a complex interlayering of relatively dense and disparate uses in a variety of ages: row houses, vertical warehouses, urban powerplants, old industry, new buildings and old buildings side by side:

There are to me specific types of buildings that say "big city" all by themselves, without the need of any additional context. And we have quite a few prime examples:
The great cathedral

The historic arcade

The big city hall

The central library

(Especially when crowded with people for some kind of civic event: in this case a free concert.)
And of course the grand theatre:


You're simply not going to find a theatre of that size in most cities. And we have several. We have new theatres, old theatres, opera houses, concert halls, arenas, stadia, movie palaces, ballrooms, and clubs as big as they come and as intimate as you could wish. We have some great ones and some awful ones. Places for experimental theatre and grandly traditional. Room for every style of music under the sun. Culture says big city to me. Entertainment. Art. Sport. Every city has bread, but only the great ones have circuses.
To me, there's really nothing that says "I have arrived" quite like this:

Good stuff, SP!
SC4Mayor posted this one a few days ago which struck me as "big city":
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SC4Mayor posted this one a few days ago which struck me as "big city":
^ Yeah, that’s a great one. The skyline viewed from the Chase terraces is definitely a bigger city view than your average view of the STL skyline. You get a much better picture of the city’s density that way.
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From Compton Hill:
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The waterfront:
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The right angle at the ballpark is pretty great too:
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We all know what truly sets St. Louis apart though…it’s row houses
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From Compton Hill:

The waterfront:


The right angle at the ballpark is pretty great too:

We all know what truly sets St. Louis apart though…it’s row houses





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^^Agreed Framer. SC4 always posts great pictures, and transit emerging from underground is particularly special "big city." That's a great spot.
^I love that we both have views across Lafayette Square and Soulard to the Cahokia power station. I'm a little jealous of your drone, of course.
Yes, row houses have a particular big city feel to them as well. Great stuff!
^I love that we both have views across Lafayette Square and Soulard to the Cahokia power station. I'm a little jealous of your drone, of course.
^ Head on down to the waterfront and take a ride! I'd like to actually charter one some day so I can spend a bit more time up there. Maybe we could split one! 
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^Depending on the cost I might well be down with that. Mind you, I'm not independently wealthy. But I am trying to make friends in the aviation community. We'll see what comes of that. 


















