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Post Dispatch Articles about St. Louis Nightclubs

Post Dispatch Articles about St. Louis Nightclubs

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PostNov 12, 2006#1

The Post Dispatch has a couple of articles on the front page of the A&E section of the Sunday November 12 paper.



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/enter ... Document


The nightclub shuffle

By Kevin C. Johnson

POST-DISPATCH POP MUSIC CRITIC

Sunday, Nov. 12 2006



Venerable rock clubs Hi-Pointe Café and Frederick's Music Lounge: Rest in peace.



Vibrant Washington Avenue maverick Velvet: You've danced your last dance.



Urban meccas Seven and Formula/Isis: It was nice knowing you.



St. Louis' nightlife circuit has taken significant hits in the past year or so,

and many of the passings are significant enough to make scene watchers pause

and question what's happening.



"There have been a lot of really creative and positive venues that have come

and gone," says longtime Washington Avenue promoter Doug Hall, now with

Throttle/Feisty Bulldog on Laclede's Landing.



Still, he sees a lot that's encouraging, including continued growth in the area

known as the Grove on Manchester Avenue, mainly between Sarah Street and Tower

Grove Avenue. Atomic Cowboy, Amp, Freddie's and Novak's operate on that strip.



More promising signs: the arrival of several new, often pacesetting nightspots

in the past year. Upscale lounges/clubs such as Mandarin, Xes, Lucas School

House and Dolce are new; Nectar, Kyo, Copia, Loft Jazz Club, Boogaloo and

Monarch remain fresh. Dante returned, Creepy Crawl moved from downtown to Grand

Center and Bar Italia expanded from a restaurant to a dance destination.



Not to mention all the name and programming changes — Trainwreck becoming

Throttle/Feisty Bulldog, Kastle turning into Dreams, Churchill's morphing into

Posh, and Nik's Wine Bar transforming into Filter Bar.



To the casual observer, it all looks a little crazy. But "there's a very

healthy nightlife scene right now," says Amit Dhawan of venue-event marketing

company Synergy, who is working with Mandarin. "Clubs are getting more and more

packed, and there are more clubs."



The evolving scene is full of hope, excitement and diversity. And it simply may

be experiencing normal sign-of-the-times transitions.



But some people think the scene may not be as solid as it looks because of

inexperienced people stepping in and trying to run clubs and bars, says Munsok,

who recently opened Xes nightclub behind his Drunken Fish restaurant on

Laclede's Landing.



"Most of them just don't have enough money or marketing (savvy) or background

to do this," he says.



Hall says that when amateurs "open up quick places, it affects the market and

makes it hard for experienced operators to operate. There was a lot of that in

the '90s, a lot of carbon-copy Velvets."



That's something Sonja Branscomb may have experienced after the success of her

urban nightclub Isis. It paved the way for Seven, Toxic, Suite2Fifty, Loft Jazz

Club, Plush and Dreams — the former three are gone.



"A lot of the new club owners know it's not as easy as they think," says

Branscomb, whose Formula closed last month, not long after its first

anniversary.



She had reworked Isis into the more diverse, Miami-style Formula, which was the

victim of, among other things, the fickle nature of clubgoers.



"They're always going to go to what's new, and they don't like change,"

Branscomb says. "Some people just like things the way they are. When you start

changing, they start looking for other places. Look at Spruill's. Have they

ever changed anything? You got to cater to what people want."



Caviar to catfish



Andrew Mullins of the experimental marketing agency DJ and the Spark promoted

Washington Avenue clubs for years. He contends that the nightlife scene is a

reflection of what people want.



"They support what they want and walk away from what they don't need," says

Mullins, who is DJ at several clubs.



Cynde Castillo, columnist for the Pulse of the City section of the Evening

Whirl, says there's little loyalty in the St. Louis nightlife crowd. "They're

always looking for the BBD — the bigger, better deal," she says.



"Urban-geared nightclubs often falter by trying new ideas, going elite or

avant-garde — and falling flat," she says.



"They realize their idea was a little too big for St. Louis, and to maintain

the club they have to let the riff-raff in the backdoor," Castillo says. "Then

the club goes from caviar to catfish in no time."



Like Branscomb, Lisa Andris retired from the bar business after 20 years of

running Hi-Pointe Café.



"It's hard economically to sustain a place like this," Andris said at the time

of the closing. "It's an exhausting business, a real challenge keeping it

afloat, and it was time to change hands again. Nothing like this can last

forever."



Steve Pohlman, who with his wife, Kit Kellison, took over running Off Broadway

earlier this year, says: "I think it's sad to see any music venue go. But

there's always extenuating circumstances. We've had our ups and downs. We've

had some great, well-attended shows and some not particularly well-attended

shows. It's a challenge for every (concert club). How do you speak to that

audience that comes out to see a show? Because there's a lot going on in the

city right now."



Upping the wow factor



That includes the increasingly busy Lucas School House, owned by Dan Jameson

and his wife, Mia. He didn't let nearby club closings stop his plan. He did

some research before opening the venue, was told his vision wouldn't work and

went ahead anyway.



"We just did it our way, making up some of it as we go along," Jameson says.

"We had no preconceived notions of how it was supposed to be done, and we

weren't paying attention to what the competition was doing."



People are gravitating toward the smoke-free Lucas School House's upscale

approach to concertgoing. Nightclubbers are becoming more sophisticated about

their options, says Xes/Drunken Fish's Munsok, who ran Kaboom several years

ago.



Dhawan and others say St. Louis' nightclubs are in transition, making way for

the next generation of hot spots. Dhawan has noticed several evolutions over

the past decade. About 1997, he says, the scene was music-driven, focusing on

who was bringing in which DJ. After 9/11, people began steering away from

megaclubs, preferring smaller spaces with higher service that they could enjoy

with their friends.



The current trend is toward clubs that are architecturally fantastic, "clubs

taking it up a whole new level," says Dhawan. He's also seeing clubs attracting

black and white or straight and gay patrons, or having appeal outside of their

regular core.



Munsok says people also are looking for destinations where they can do more

than one thing, such as have dinner and party, at one locale. They're finding

it with Drunken Fish/Xes, Feisty Bulldog/Throttle and Pepper Lounge/Nectar.



Another factor: More people are experiencing the scenes in New York, Las

Vegas, Los Angeles and Miami and know nightlife's full potential.



"When they come back home, they want a taste of that here. They want the 'wow'

factor," Mullins says, whether through theatrics, atmosphere or service.



"If you don't wow them, you'll lose them," he says. "But the few who can

deliver it are successful. The bench mark has been elevated."



kjohnson@post-dispatch.com | 314-340-8191

PostNov 12, 2006#2

Another article about Mandarin



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/entert ... enDocument


Businessmen make right moves on nightclub scene

By Kevin C. Johnson

POST-DISPATCH POP MUSIC CRITIC

Sunday, Nov. 12 2006



Buddy Coy and Pete Ferretti once owned a few Mr. Good Sense Subs & Pastas

shops, and both worked in corporate America — none of which would seem to have

prepared them for the path they're paving now.



"It didn't lend itself to overly creative ideas," Ferretti says of their

previous endeavors. Coy adds, "We wanted to have more say in our own business."



They took that experience and applied it to their current jobs as movers and

shakers on St. Louis' roller-coaster nightlife scene.



"Our goal is to open multiple venues and create a brand that has a higher

standard. That's what we bring to the table," says Coy.



They're known for the still-hot Pepper Lounge, which opened four years ago, and

the adjacent year-old Nectar, both downtown on a budding strip of Locust Street.



Now their sparkling Mandarin Lounge is in the midst of its grand opening

weekend. During previews, the Central West End lounge hosted birthday parties

for Nelly, Orlando Pace and Ira DeWitt. Coy, 35, and Ferretti, 36, also were

behind the Outfield at Mike Shannon's and are in talks to open the

tentatively-titled Mist next year at the Lodge of the Four Seasons.



They may be the new Scott Gilmartin, Blake Brokaw or Tom Gray. Those names are

associated with the development of the downtown nightclub scene more than a

decade ago.



"What most venues need to be successful is to evolve," Ferretti says. "That's

easy to say but doing it requires a little bit of luck. … But a great location,

service, staff and a great space is what you start with."



They say it also takes listening to customers' requests, and anticipating what

will be hot six months from now.



All of this, along with taking cues from what's going on in bigger cities on

the coasts and Las Vegas, has allowed them to offer great nightlife options.



The classy, hip, laid-back Mandarin, with its Buddha and Chinese warrior

statues throughout, is a must-see spot blending cool sounds, sights and

spirits. Some of the best features include its outdoor patio overlooking the

refurbished fountain area in the Central West End; its "cocktail trees," fun

for groups; and a playfully naughty peek-a-boo section on the wall separating

the men's and women's bathrooms.



The venue makes use of about 5,000 square feet including the lobby and patio;

capacity is 280. There's valet parking, pods and booths for seating, and

emphasis on service and atmosphere for its target demographic: 25- to

35-year-olds.



Mandarin music ranges from old Prince and the Police to current top 40 hits.

The club officially launched in late summer at a party during MTV Video Music

Awards week.



In opening Mandarin, Ferretti says the most difficult thing was avoiding

copying what they'd already done. "How do you make it just as cool?"



kjohnson@post-dispatch.com | 314-340-8191

PostNov 12, 2006#3

Another side box.


The Departed: Among the clubs that are no more





— Hi-Pointe Café closed with little notice Labor Day weekend after 20 years as St. Louis' best dive; the building was taken over by a new owner.



— Fred Friction hung it up, closing his beloved hangout, Frederick's.



— Velvet, Washington Avenue's long-running dance club, responsible for bringing in some of the genre's best-known dance DJs, is now home to retail.



— The Formula, a Washington Avenue staple that enjoyed a longer life as Isis, was shuttered last month after a fatal stabbing there, though its owner already had sold the lease.



And Seven, Toxic, Europe Nite Club and Suite2Fifty also joined the Galaxy, Tangerine, the Firehouse and Lo Twist (sic) on a long list of clubs that have closed.

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PostNov 12, 2006#4

dweebe wrote:Another side box.


The Departed: Among the clubs that are no more





— Hi-Pointe Café closed with little notice Labor Day weekend after 20 years as St. Louis' best dive; the building was taken over by a new owner.



— Fred Friction hung it up, closing his beloved hangout, Frederick's.



— Velvet, Washington Avenue's long-running dance club, responsible for bringing in some of the genre's best-known dance DJs, is now home to retail.



— The Formula, a Washington Avenue staple that enjoyed a longer life as Isis, was shuttered last month after a fatal stabbing there, though its owner already had sold the lease.



And Seven, Toxic, Europe Nite Club and Suite2Fifty also joined the Galaxy, Tangerine, the Firehouse and Lo Twist (sic) on a long list of clubs that have closed.
I really miss Tangerine; a shame as now I only live a block away from that location. Can't say I miss homicide club though.

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PostNov 13, 2006#5

According to KSDK there was a murder outside Union Station's nightclub "Plush"



http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.a ... yid=107406


Man Killed Outside Union Station Club

created: 11/13/2006 8:16:47 AM

updated: 11/13/2006 8:23:12 AM









KSDK - St. Louis have identified a man who was killed early Sunday morning outside Club Plush, a nightclub on the Market Street side of Union Station.



The victim is 22-year-old Charles Hogans.



Hogans and another man were reportedly fighting inside the club. They were both told to leave by security. Outside the club, Hogans was shot and killed.



No suspects had been arrested as of Monday morning.





KSDK

PostNov 13, 2006#6

According to KSDK there was a murder outside Union Station's nightclub "Plush"



http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.a ... yid=107406


Man Killed Outside Union Station Club

created: 11/13/2006 8:16:47 AM

updated: 11/13/2006 8:23:12 AM



KSDK - St. Louis have identified a man who was killed early Sunday morning outside Club Plush, a nightclub on the Market Street side of Union Station.



The victim is 22-year-old Charles Hogans.



Hogans and another man were reportedly fighting inside the club. They were both told to leave by security. Outside the club, Hogans was shot and killed.



No suspects had been arrested as of Monday morning.





KSDK

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PostNov 13, 2006#7

dam@%! there goes one more unwarrented tick on the DT crime stats.

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PostNov 13, 2006#8

^
unwarrented


Sounds like a shooting on Market outside of Union Station would result in a warranted 'tick' on the DT crime stats . . . I'll have to admit that I am generally not downtown after ~10pm. I'd rather end a night out at a neighborhood pub or in the CWE.

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PostNov 13, 2006#9

:evil: This is getting ridiculous.

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PostNov 13, 2006#10

I was downtown until 3:00 AM and didn't feel unsafe at anytime. Going to clubs like Plush probably isn't the best idea, to be quite honest... obviously, still a very unfortunate incident.

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PostNov 13, 2006#11

steve wrote::evil: This is getting ridiculous.


The sad thing is I'm sitting here going "meh-no big deal. Another day in the big city." even though I work a few blocks away and walk past here a few times a week.

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PostNov 13, 2006#12

I know what you're saying. I go downtown all the time, stay into the wee hours of the morning, and never feel threatened. Then again, I don't go to nightclubs and get in fights with people.



I'm just frustrated with all the news of crime lately. It's just starting to get to me.

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PostNov 13, 2006#13

Ihnen wrote:^
unwarrented


Sounds like a shooting on Market outside of Union Station would result in a warranted 'tick' on the DT crime stats . . . I'll have to admit that I am generally not downtown after ~10pm. I'd rather end a night out at a neighborhood pub or in the CWE.
By unwarrented I mean a non-random crime. It's a targeted club violence crime that would not affect tourists or even any remotly normal DT visitor.

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PostNov 13, 2006#14

Urban Elitist wrote:
Ihnen wrote:^
unwarrented


Sounds like a shooting on Market outside of Union Station would result in a warranted 'tick' on the DT crime stats . . . I'll have to admit that I am generally not downtown after ~10pm. I'd rather end a night out at a neighborhood pub or in the CWE.
By unwarrented I mean a non-random crime. It's a targeted club violence crime that would not affect tourists or even any remotly normal DT visitor.


True.



But think of all the tourists staying at the Hyatt who might have heard the gunshots or the resulting commotion.



Who's to say a stray bullet couldn't have ended up in Maggie OBriens? Or what about the Hyatt ballrooms? Who's to say there weren't out of towners at a wedding reception who come out to this sort of stuff

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PostNov 13, 2006#15

Just to be a stickler and having seen it repeated so many times, it's spelled "unwarranted"

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PostNov 13, 2006#16

Thanks stlWebster-Merriam, dually noted.

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PostNov 13, 2006#17

My question is, if someone was fighting inside a club, did the security simply tell them to take the fight outside (which resulted in the escalation of violence), or did they get them off the property and then call the police (which is something I believe they should have).



The latter "may" have resulted in the troublemakers dispersing. Then again, you have hardcore idiots who think there is nothing to get arrested.



Sad.......

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PostNov 13, 2006#18

Plush is a very rough club and I have heard there is a lot of gang activity there. HMMMM too bad

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bsharmastl wrote:My question is, if someone was fighting inside a club, did the security simply tell them to take the fight outside (which resulted in the escalation of violence), or did they get them off the property and then call the police (which is something I believe they should have).



The latter "may" have resulted in the troublemakers dispersing. Then again, you have hardcore idiots who think there is nothing to get arrested.



Sad.......
You're on to something there. This probably could have been prevented if the club had a zero tolerance fighting policy. Fighting in the club should result in you being held in custody by security until the police arrive, at which time you should go directly to jail.

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PostNov 13, 2006#20

Urban Elitist wrote:Thanks stlWebster-Merriam, dually noted.


It would be nice if the forum had a spell check tool. On my longer posts I type them up in MS Word, spell check and then paste. I've seen other forum engines with the feature.



Then again Firefox 2.0 has a spell check tool built into the browser. Cool feature.

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PostNov 13, 2006#21

I'm using 2.0 and I love having the spell check built in.

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PostNov 13, 2006#22

Duly noted.

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PostNov 14, 2006#23

Ihnen wrote:I'll have to admit that I am generally not downtown after ~10pm. I'd rather end a night out at a neighborhood pub or in the CWE.


I'm not generally downtown after 10 p.m., but that's because I have a three year-old boy that's (usually) sound asleep by that time of the night. :wink:



On those occasions when Mrs. 314 and I have the night to ourselves, we're as likely to choose downtown for our destination as anywhere else in Saint Louis. It's obviously been some time since we were even close to being regulars, but we've been downtown plenty of times after 10 without any trouble. Of course it's not without its problem areas, but I certainly don't believe it's inherently more dangerous than any other popular city neighborhood.

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PostNov 14, 2006#24

Look like the owner of "Plush" has a lot of problems.



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument


Violence plagues clubs at Union Station

By Bill Bryan

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

Tuesday, Nov. 14 2006



St. Louis — The Plush nightclub in the St. Louis Union Station complex, near

the scene of a fatal weekend shooting involving a customer who had just been

thrown out, surrendered its liquor license on Monday, officials said.



And a hearing is scheduled later this week regarding the license of Spruill's

nightclub on North Jefferson Avenue, which also has been linked to recent

violence.



There was no explanation by the license holder at Plush. A spokesperson for St.

Louis Excise Commissioner Robert Kraiberg confirmed the report late Monday.

Messages left for the owner were not returned.



Charles Hogans, 22, of Dellwood, was shot several times and killed about 2:30

a.m. Sunday in a parking lot behind Plush. Moments earlier, Hogans and another

man had been kicked out of the club for fighting, officials said.



Homicide detectives said Monday they had no strong leads in the slaying.



At Spruill's, a police officer working as a security guard Sept. 24 wounded a

man who had just shot another man on the club's parking lot. Then on Oct. 11,

two St. Louis police officers working security there wounded four men outside

the club after seeing them standing over another man and shooting him.



"We're very concerned about the complaints regarding these clubs," Kraiberg

said earlier Monday.



"We'll be holding hearings (about license suspensions or revocations). We'll

certainly be looking at all this."



St. Louis police Maj. Harry Hegger, commander of the Central Patrol, which

takes in both Plush, at 20th and Market streets, and Spruill's, at 1100 North

Jefferson, has furnished Kraiberg and state liquor control agents with police

reports documenting the problems.



"I've got a zero-tolerance attitude for these kind of clubs," Hegger said.

"We've had all kinds of problems with Plush, including severe traffic problems

there on weekends.



"At Spruill's, we've arrested guys who were intoxicated and had guns, and there

have been several shootings around there."



Pete Lobdell, supervisor for the Division of Alcohol and Tobacco Control, in

Jefferson City, will be at the Wainwright Building downtown on Friday to

conduct a hearing regarding Spruill's license. Lobdell's St. Louis office

investigators have called Spruill's "a disorderly house," he said.



"They want a severe suspension if not a revocation," Lobdell said. "It's a big

problem. "I've read where St. Louis has been named a very unsafe city, and I

have to protect the public safety of St. Louis."



The owners of Spruill's could not be reached for comment.



bbryan@post-dispatch.com | 314-340-8950

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PostNov 14, 2006#25

I thought the article was a convoluted mix of venues. Something like "lifestyle centers" in retail shopping, nightlife has also become more distinctive. As I've alluded to in other posts, the St. Louis market is ready for new nightlife experiences. Segment the market and mine it more deeply - especially as the customer pool grows more highly educated and professional. I suppose there may always be some room for the traditional dance club but there are far too many in St. Louis. The recent thinning of the herd is a good thing. I'd almost go so far as to suggest that these types of clubs may have a brighter future in Illinois. Those that still try to prosper with this business model need to be more highly regulated - oversight of their business needs to be heavy-handed. Maybe the the license fee for a dance club should be very high ($100,000?).

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