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Before we go the garden route, can we at least get the glass to enclose the entire stairwell, not just two floors. What an embarrassment. What was the cost savings there? They still had to install heavy metal railings instead of the glass. Since they skimped on glass, I highly doubt any money will go to a vertical garden.


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Unfortunately, I think all the dressing up is complete. The cut out windows on the south side and the 2 floors of glass on the stairwell.

Also, I think it was already discussed in this thread, but there is little hope that what was built can handle any residential above it. It was constructed with prefab concrete that was pieced together like a game of Jenga.


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Just saying, but it is possible to stack prefab concrete really high. Just would depend on if they built in capacity for added floors into the load bearing capacities. I just pray that they could have.

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Unfortunately, I think all the dressing up is complete. The cut out windows on the south side and the 2 floors of glass on the stairwell.

Also, I think it was already discussed in this thread, but there is little hope that what was built can handle any residential above it. It was constructed with prefab concrete that was pieced together like a game of Jenga.


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I don't think the question, of being able to build upon the existing garage structure, has actually been answered. Maybe someone has somoe inside knowledge.

On the positive side, maybe their holding that as their trump card hoping to get the occupancy at a point that the new tower is sellable on the financing side.

In other words, Being able to tell the bankers you built the first phase within budget and on time, the property has high occupancy rate at decent sq footage rates for the market, and think we should build new on top of the garage (existing infrastructure on site and property already owned) as orginally planned, designed and engineered (initial costs already rolled into the first phase, just need to do bid docs & shop drawings) before anyone else breaks ground downtown. The timing might be right, Peabody made its committment to downtown yesterday & Peabody Opera House along with Tucker Ave work completed, Stifel Nichols should have its new HQ going up at BPV this year, and Wells Fargo was already mentioned.

The one thing I would be torn on, What location would you pick for the next new residentail tower/space in downtown? Washington Skyhouse, New residencies at Park Pacific if they can add to structure, or BPV?

Garage is mostly finished.



Anyone know if the ground floor retail will be completed? Occupied? Or will this sit unfinished like the Tucker & Clark garage?

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Park Pacific 4/2/2011

From Tucker



From Olive



Street trees have been planted on the Tucker side. Garage is not the most attractive, but there are worst throughout downtown. We just need better design standards.

More than 20 leases have been signed so far at the new $109 million Park Pacific apartments in downtown St. Louis.
"People are moving in everyday," said Joseph Cyr, director of development services at The Lawrence Group, the developer of the 23-floor building at 210 N. 13th St.
"The scale and size really is a bold statement about where we think downtown is in its progress in revitalization," he said. "Many of our residents who are relocating say, 'This is the only thing that feels like New York, Philadelphia or Chicago, where I am relocating from.' This is why we are different."

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... cific.html

It's going to be fun watching this building fill up. I can't wait until some more reach completion.

I was on the downtown home tour and was able to check this building out. The common areas seemed pretty nice, but the individual units didn't seem to match the requested prices. There were many other units on the tour throughout downtown that were advertised at a lower rate and seemed much nicer. Was I alone thinking this?

TheRemedy wrote:I was on the downtown home tour and was able to check this building out. The common areas seemed pretty nice, but the individual units didn't seem to match the requested prices. There were many other units on the tour throughout downtown that were advertised at a lower rate and seemed much nicer. Was I alone thinking this?

No youre not. I havent checked them out in person, but judging from the pics, i thought these units were rather basic. Especially the appliances.

TheRemedy wrote:I was on the downtown home tour and was able to check this building out. The common areas seemed pretty nice, but the individual units didn't seem to match the requested prices. There were many other units on the tour throughout downtown that were advertised at a lower rate and seemed much nicer. Was I alone thinking this?

No, I went with a few friends and checked this place out and felt the exact same. Awesome common areas and great views from the top, but was not impressed at the units themselves, especially with two bedrooms starting at $1700/month (or something like that).

Tim Mckernan had a great plug for this building this morning. He moved in a few weeks back and is absolutely in love with it. He said it's like being on vacation every day. He loves that he can see the CWE and Clayton skylines.

^Er, sorry, but who's Tim Muckerman?

Here is a nice write up about some improvements to the park west of Park Pacific and south of the Library.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... d5b80.html

moorlander wrote:Tim Mckernan had a great plug for this building this morning. He moved in a few weeks back and is absolutely in love with it. He said it's like being on vacation every day. He loves that he can see the CWE and Clayton skylines.

Noticed today that Tim's obviously being compensated to plug his new residence on the airwaves.

framer wrote:^Er, sorry, but who's Tim Muckerman?

Seriously, who is he? Radio/TV personality?

He is one of the radio hosts of the ITD Morning After. It is on 590 AM and is pretty entertaining. He also runs insidestl.com. http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/R ... fault.aspx

Interesting quote on the Park Pacific in the biz journal this week. Now how do we publicize this and let developers know the residential market is strong downtown. It can help create a catalyst for Chemical, Arcade, etc.

"Lawrence Group's Steve Smith says his Park Pacific project downtown - 230 apartments- will be filled 8 months ahead of schedule."