It was sarcasm. I was just making light of the fact that the one surface of the garage that the fewest people will see is the one they have plans for. It's a neat concept.
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I would consider the Olive St side of the building to be as crucial to the downtown streetscape as its park side. After all this side faces the library and Christ Church Cathedral.
My questions to Swuss are:
How do you know what materials are proposed for the project by just seeing this (what I consider) very preliminary rendering?
As you mentioned, the Bottle District renderings have changed numerous times, how can you possibly think that this is a final design?
Lastly, I don't think The Lawrence Group designed the Lofts at the Highlands, is it true or not? They are hideous, and assigning them to a company that didn't design them is unfair. If they did, than I digress.
How do you know what materials are proposed for the project by just seeing this (what I consider) very preliminary rendering?
As you mentioned, the Bottle District renderings have changed numerous times, how can you possibly think that this is a final design?
Lastly, I don't think The Lawrence Group designed the Lofts at the Highlands, is it true or not? They are hideous, and assigning them to a company that didn't design them is unfair. If they did, than I digress.
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Saur Associates was the architect for the Lofts at the Highlands:
http://www.balkebrown.com/bba/portfolio ... slofts.php
Mackey Mitchell designed the office building.
http://www.balkebrown.com/bba/portfolio ... slofts.php
Mackey Mitchell designed the office building.
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Some good points broght up by Swuss. I just made some comments on their website questioning the design of the garage. Others should as well because if they start to see a backlash to an uninspired design they might change it. Just a thought.
Matt H , totally disagree. While the layout of the highlands isn't the best, at all.. the bulldings themselves are actually somewhat impressive. The hotel should jump on 40 and floor it out to its twin in Chesterfield Valley. The lofts are pretty well designed. Not the best , but not hideous either.
I agree, the Lofts at the Highlands are actually quite attractive buildings, it's just their relationship to the surrounding city that is horrendous.
I'd just like to repeat my earlier concern: This new addition looks too much like a hospital or something. And I'm with you, Swuss, I can't wait until some developer in St. Louis finally brings in an architect of the caliber of KPF or Pelli. I guess the Bottle District guys at least made some attempt at raising the bar.
According to Emporis, architects for The Highlands were Saur & Associate and the Lawrence Group. Regardless, Lawrence were the architects for the Boulevard and the upcoming Valencia tower at the Boulevard.
Even without seeing the face of the building, the rendering shows what is all too common in mass-produced architecutre: green glass and orange-y brick. I don't need to see a material list to know that those are the main components of the building. It's a horrible, cliched combination and something that has already begun to look outdated. Brick is a hard thing to attempt on such a large scale and it isn't a natural brick color (natural bricks are deep red or sandstone colored). I might be jumping the gun a bit on condemning the architecture, but it's like when you've heard a song so many times on the radio that you're sick of it; all you need is the first few chords before you change the channel. This isn't groundbreaking, unique architecture. I've seen it a million times before and I recognize it immediately even when I see just one face of it.
All I'm saying is, I hope they find better materials to design the building with and that they can come up with a more attractive design.
Even without seeing the face of the building, the rendering shows what is all too common in mass-produced architecutre: green glass and orange-y brick. I don't need to see a material list to know that those are the main components of the building. It's a horrible, cliched combination and something that has already begun to look outdated. Brick is a hard thing to attempt on such a large scale and it isn't a natural brick color (natural bricks are deep red or sandstone colored). I might be jumping the gun a bit on condemning the architecture, but it's like when you've heard a song so many times on the radio that you're sick of it; all you need is the first few chords before you change the channel. This isn't groundbreaking, unique architecture. I've seen it a million times before and I recognize it immediately even when I see just one face of it.
All I'm saying is, I hope they find better materials to design the building with and that they can come up with a more attractive design.
The new addition's design is reminiscent of a hospital or College dorm. Not quite as bad as the Adam's Mark, and certainly in a lower profile location.
Something needs to be done about Tucker. The street is way too wide, has multiple gigantic ugly buildings, and the new infill is of mediocre architectural quality. Can someone please step forward with a grand vision for new landmark buildings downtown?!
Something needs to be done about Tucker. The street is way too wide, has multiple gigantic ugly buildings, and the new infill is of mediocre architectural quality. Can someone please step forward with a grand vision for new landmark buildings downtown?!
I strolled by today and noticed that a crew is removing the granite infill from the street level corner openings at Olive and 13th.
It is fantastic to see this being opened up to the street and the park. It is going to be quite an improvement to the surrounding streetscape to have activity here.
Sorry, I didn't get any photos, but it is quite dramatic seeing an opening versus the blocked up infill.
It is fantastic to see this being opened up to the street and the park. It is going to be quite an improvement to the surrounding streetscape to have activity here.
Sorry, I didn't get any photos, but it is quite dramatic seeing an opening versus the blocked up infill.
I was hoping that would happen soon. That alone should make a dramatic difference and bring some life to the street level of the building even without occupants.
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I'm hearing prices will start in the low 200's for the condos and go up to the 400's. Square footages will range from around 700 to about 1500. If true, this is pricey! And the penthouses will start in the 500's and go to over $1 million. Not sure on sizes.
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They're having an open house on June 8th from 5-8. I got an invite in the mail today.
There's a small, dark rendering of the Tucker facade in their ad in the Post today. I still don't know how I feel about it.
I tried to go to their website for a better look, but it wasn't working.
I tried to go to their website for a better look, but it wasn't working.
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Went to the grand opening this evening and here is some info/thoughts.
Looked to be a pretty strong turnout. The sales center had a nice upper-end feel to it with plasma screens, large layouts of floor plans on the walls and a nice architectual model of how the whole development will look.
They ran people up to floor 10 where they had two different display units completely built out. If anyone went to the Marquette for their grand opening it was very similar to that. The finishes looked very similar and the floor plans looked very similar.
There will be an exclusive restaurant serving lunch, dinner and brunch, and offering a small retail market, weekly grocery deliveries, room service, house accounts, private party staffing, wine club/cellaring/private rooms and sommelier service.
There will also be a day spa, infinity pool with poolside bar, cabanas, sundeck, fire pit, grill, hot tub, fitness center, yoga/pilates room, concierge services, motorized scooters available, and on and on.
And all this will cost you. They broke prices into "The Parkside" (existing 22 story building) and "Cityside" (new building with floor to ceiling glass and units there are on floors 9 - 14)
Parkside Prices:
The Manning - 1 bed, 1.5 bath, 820 sf - $196,900 - $205,900
The Ascelon - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1037 sf - $276,900 - $295,900
The Streamline - 1 bed, 2 bath, den, 1066 sf - $255,900 - $293,900
The Mikado I - 1 bed, 1 bath, 1074 sf - $229,900
The Mikado II - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1215-1256 sf - $256,900 - $261,900
The Pullman - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1248 sf - $284,900 - $326,900
The Gunnison - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1297 sf - $326,900 - $348,900
The Eagle I - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1485 sf - $376,900 - $401,900
The Eagle II - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1494 sf - $407,900 - $441,900
The Adolphus - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1297-1483 sf - $376,900 - $440,900
Terrace Units and Penthouses range from $306,900 - $1,450,000 and square footages for those range from 1037 sf - 3801 sf.
Cityside Prices:
The District - 1 bed, 1 bath, 823 sf - $282,900 - $305,900
The Prominade - 1 bed, 1.5 bath, 983 sf - $307,900 - $364,900
The Urbanist - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1178 sf - $368,900 - $415,900
The Avenue - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1428 sf - $446,900 - $503,900
The Palisade - 2 bed, 2.5 bath, 1576 sf - $567,900 - $613,900
The Highrise - 3 bed, 2 bath, den, 1981 sf - $662,900 - $734,900
The Cityscape - 3 bed, 2.5 bath, den, 2362 sf - $671,900 - $876,900
WOW! Clayton has now come to downtown. When I had left they had about 21 reserves for Parkside and 3 reserves for Cityside. It was $2500 to reserve, then an additional $2500 in 5 days and then a total of 5% of sales price due in 60 days. So for a $400,000 unit you would owe $20,000 within 60 days. CRAZY! You got $5,000 in free upgrades to reserve tonight and prices were only guaranteed for this evening.
This will be a nice project, definitely attempting to take downtown to the next level but would strongly recommend anyone interested in this project to give the Syndicate a look.
Looked to be a pretty strong turnout. The sales center had a nice upper-end feel to it with plasma screens, large layouts of floor plans on the walls and a nice architectual model of how the whole development will look.
They ran people up to floor 10 where they had two different display units completely built out. If anyone went to the Marquette for their grand opening it was very similar to that. The finishes looked very similar and the floor plans looked very similar.
There will be an exclusive restaurant serving lunch, dinner and brunch, and offering a small retail market, weekly grocery deliveries, room service, house accounts, private party staffing, wine club/cellaring/private rooms and sommelier service.
There will also be a day spa, infinity pool with poolside bar, cabanas, sundeck, fire pit, grill, hot tub, fitness center, yoga/pilates room, concierge services, motorized scooters available, and on and on.
And all this will cost you. They broke prices into "The Parkside" (existing 22 story building) and "Cityside" (new building with floor to ceiling glass and units there are on floors 9 - 14)
Parkside Prices:
The Manning - 1 bed, 1.5 bath, 820 sf - $196,900 - $205,900
The Ascelon - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1037 sf - $276,900 - $295,900
The Streamline - 1 bed, 2 bath, den, 1066 sf - $255,900 - $293,900
The Mikado I - 1 bed, 1 bath, 1074 sf - $229,900
The Mikado II - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1215-1256 sf - $256,900 - $261,900
The Pullman - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1248 sf - $284,900 - $326,900
The Gunnison - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1297 sf - $326,900 - $348,900
The Eagle I - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1485 sf - $376,900 - $401,900
The Eagle II - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1494 sf - $407,900 - $441,900
The Adolphus - 2 bed, 2 bath, den, 1297-1483 sf - $376,900 - $440,900
Terrace Units and Penthouses range from $306,900 - $1,450,000 and square footages for those range from 1037 sf - 3801 sf.
Cityside Prices:
The District - 1 bed, 1 bath, 823 sf - $282,900 - $305,900
The Prominade - 1 bed, 1.5 bath, 983 sf - $307,900 - $364,900
The Urbanist - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1178 sf - $368,900 - $415,900
The Avenue - 2 bed, 2 bath, 1428 sf - $446,900 - $503,900
The Palisade - 2 bed, 2.5 bath, 1576 sf - $567,900 - $613,900
The Highrise - 3 bed, 2 bath, den, 1981 sf - $662,900 - $734,900
The Cityscape - 3 bed, 2.5 bath, den, 2362 sf - $671,900 - $876,900
WOW! Clayton has now come to downtown. When I had left they had about 21 reserves for Parkside and 3 reserves for Cityside. It was $2500 to reserve, then an additional $2500 in 5 days and then a total of 5% of sales price due in 60 days. So for a $400,000 unit you would owe $20,000 within 60 days. CRAZY! You got $5,000 in free upgrades to reserve tonight and prices were only guaranteed for this evening.
This will be a nice project, definitely attempting to take downtown to the next level but would strongly recommend anyone interested in this project to give the Syndicate a look.
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Did you get a copy of the rendering for the new building?
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Citylover wrote:Did you get a copy of the rendering for the new building?
They have a really nice, large format, multi-page color brochure that has some renderings of the new building within it. I got a copy of that.
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Damn, I had an invite for this and forgot all about it!
Sounds great though. Some of those are $300+/sq ft. Fantastic!
Sounds great though. Some of those are $300+/sq ft. Fantastic!
Very nice rendering. Lets hope the sales will make this happen.
But something needs to be done about the garage inbetween. Its ugly.
But something needs to be done about the garage inbetween. Its ugly.
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I like it - it will definitely help improve the appearance of Tucker.