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Progress wrote:Oh no...NO sarcasm at ALL! Traffic really ISN'T THAT BAD! I had a sense of IMPENDING DOOM about the whole thing! In the end, I simply adjusted my own driving patterns and haven't seen any REAL PROBLEMS during the whole time construction has gone on! It's been an opportunity to take different routes to work!



OTOH, it WILL be nice to get back the use of I-64...on a NICE, NEW roadway!

Nice. IMO - I-64 should have become the Chouteau Greenway! All the way from the river to Brentwood!

Progress wrote:Oh no...NO sarcasm at ALL! Traffic really ISN'T THAT BAD! I had a sense of IMPENDING DOOM about the whole thing! In the end, I simply adjusted my own driving patterns and haven't seen any REAL PROBLEMS during the whole time construction has gone on! It's been an opportunity to take different routes to work!



OTOH, it WILL be nice to get back the use of I-64...on a NICE, NEW roadway!

I smiled at your enthusiastic post

JuiceInDogtown wrote:Maybe I'm just a whiny little girl, but I wish the new I-64 signs on Kingshighway said "Downtown" or "Illinois/Downtown" instead of "Illinois." It kind of ignores the whole, ya know, thing we got going on down there.

I totally agree. Does anyone know if they are erecting those sound walls in the city portion of I-64? I sure hope not.

I believe they are doing the sound walls, I noticed the footings going in place when crossing over on Highland Ave bridge in Richmond Heights (one those self created one-ways noted in an earlier post).



On a second note, great plact to take a look on how the work is progressing. My little boy and the big kid in me alway take a moment to see what is going on. The one-way has created a nice little area to stop on the bridege without blocking traffice

From the Business Journal:

You heard it here

An early Christmas present may be awaiting Highway 40 drivers. The word on the street is that the $535 million reconstruction will be completed by Thanksgiving. Gateway Constructors received a $2 million bonus for completing the west half of the project by Dec. 31, 2008, and will receive another $2 million if it completes the east half by the end of the year.

Paving seems to be going at furious pace with the normal weather (or at least being a whole lot drier then it was last year). A bonus, having somewhat mild temperatures also makes a huge difference when putting down concrete. I think they are able to do a whole lot more paving during normal working hours rather then trying to do night pours. That certainly has to help production

Someone send a memo to Al Gore.

Framer wrote:Someone send a memo to Al Gore.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/07/ ... ptics.html

JMStokes wrote:

Framer wrote:Someone send a memo to Al Gore.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/07/ ... ptics.html

This is the coldest July on record in ST. LOUIS. FYI, Global Warming™ is just a socialist attempt to transfer wealth from the first world to developing nations. If you actually think China, India and other burgeoning nations will succumb to emissions caps, you're full of it. Companies will just transition production to these nations.



And I'm not sure what the SLBJ is referring to. What is Highway 40? I'm only aware of I-64.

innov8ion wrote:
And I'm not sure what the SLBJ is referring to. What is Highway 40? I'm only aware of I-64.

For being (an assumed) conservative, you're pretty progressive in picking up on a name thats been around for nearly 20 years. If only the rest of the progressive people of STL could do the same, it would save me many a headache and cringes hearing it still referred to as 40.

hold on this is the highway 40 or I-64 thread, not about climate change/global warming.

^^ Conservative? No. I'm a mix of left, right, Chomsky, Socrates, Buddha and libertarianism. Continually ask questions and look within to find the essence of a given thing. The middle way.

brickandmortar wrote:hold on this is the highway 40 or I-64 thread, not about climate change/global warming.

I really had trouble figuring out what this topic was about because the title wasn't "The New Highway 40 (Interstate 64/Provel is good, really, it is/What high school d'you go to/I drive 10 miles slower than the speed limit in the left-most lane/Remember 1904?)"

JuiceInDogtown wrote:People saying "40" bothers me, but it bothers me even worse when people say they took 40 all the way out to Virginia.



I also hate that people are stupid enough to believe that it is I-64 through the country, but in the St Louis Metro, the highway stops and 40 begins, resuming once you get in to Illinois - yes, people really believe this, as my wife was told this by a native.

That statement is absolutely true. And the Cards are going to win the NL East this year. Oh, wait, is it not 1986 anymore? As of 1987, the US 40 designation through STL and out to I-270 was upgraded to I-64 status(and later extended to/near I-70). Maybe it will only take "locals" 30 years to get this straightened out.

As a relative newcomer I claim to have lived here long enough to supposedly know when to say Hwy 40 and when to say I-64. Yet, I will still make that mistake. However, love the nuance and don't think it is a bad thing that locals keep a little history going as long as the signs correctly mark the highway as coming to age of being interstate I-64 (even if you have to put both I-64 & Hwy 40 on the signs).

using the fact that many locals refer to a road as the previous name is not a good example of how st. louis is not progressive. I think of it as another thing that makes this area quirky. It's traditional and nostalgic. Find something more important to get annoyed over.

Moorlander wrote:using the fact that many locals refer to a road as the previous name is not a good example of how st. louis is not progressive. I think of it as another thing that makes this area quirky. It's traditional and nostalgic. Find something more important to get annoyed over.

Actually, I think it is a small issue that IS important enough to get worked up over. If it's such a non-issue, than just call the damn road I-64 and don't get annoyed when people correct you for saying Forty. Same issue, and one side is more correct than the other.

that's absurd...

Moorlander wrote:that's absurd...

Agreed!