ThreeOneFour wrote:Oh, and that mission statement is quite a piece of work. Someone stayed up all night writing that tome.
Great brands have a story to tell. Ours is all about math.
- 10K
- 5,433
Great brands have a story to tell. Ours is all about math.
What in the hell are the people in charge of marketing for Hotel Indigo smoking?
ThreeOneFour wrote:Great brands have a story to tell. Ours is all about math.
What in the hell are the people in charge of marketing for Hotel Indigo smoking?
They probably found one of Stallings' lost stash of herb, powders and pills.
Themes, especially color themes, are too easily used in negative pub, e.g. I have heard the name "Red Rash Inn" thrown around frequently. I'm not sure what you could do with indigo, but I'm sure someone will come up with something.Gary Kreie wrote:I'm having deja vu. Hmmm. Simple philosophy, centered around a color and icon that communicates personality, involving a hotel. Oh, I remember -- Red Roof Inn.
- 10K
The Business Journal is reporting that the former Danielle Hotel in Clayton will be the first (hopefully not only) Indigo in St. Louis
- 729
I have not seen this on the forum but does anyone know what is happening with the building at 921 Locust? It's a 4-story building and construction crews have been in there lately knocking out all the windows and obviously preparing the building for some type of development.
- 214
The Roberts Brothers bought both 921 and 923 Locust at the beginning of 2006. At the time, they indicated that they would probably demolish both buildings and put up something new on the spot, and that was still the plan as of January 2007. Last fall, however, the Business Journal reported that they were debating whether to put their planned downtown Hotel Indigo at that location or convert the infamous WS Hotel instead. At the time, they seemed to be favoring the latter option, and I haven't seen any recent updates on their plans for the Locust properties.
Good for them. The Roberts bros don't seem to get much love around here, yet they quietly get things done where others have failed.
- 479
Gutting has begun at 921 Locust, and the Roberts Brothers Companies applied for demolition permits for both buildings on April 14.
- 729
ecoabsence wrote:Gutting has begun at 921 Locust, and the Roberts Brothers Companies applied for demolition permits for both buildings on April 14.
Sorry if this sounds stupid but does demolition mean tear down or prepare the interior for rehab?
- 10K
TheWayoftheArch wrote:Tear down.
Ridiculous. What's the hurry?
- 1,768
You're asking me? We are talking about the firm who is building a green condo tower without any real sales office, floor plans and general public information...
The lack of communication with potential buyers for a project is really strange. How is it there were able to get financing for the project while others with 30 to 40% presales are still not able to get any? I did finally talk to someone in their office on Saturday and he said that pricing and floor plans should be out at the end of the month. From the information he told me the places should be really expensive.
- 6,775
aj2cb2000 wrote:The lack of communication with potential buyers for a project is really strange. How is it there were able to get financing for the project while others with 30 to 40% presales are still not able to get any? I did finally talk to someone in their office on Saturday and he said that pricing and floor plans should be out at the end of the month. From the information he told me the places should be really expensive.
Not strange at all. You answered your own question. Places like this aren't advertised to the general public for the same reason mansions for sale in Ladue don't have a for sale sign in the front yard - they don't want to waste their time showing them to a bunch of slack jawed yokels who they know won't be able to afford them.
- 3,762
anyone have pics of these buildings? is this a travesty? just curious.
- 10K
urban_dilettante wrote:anyone have pics of these buildings? is this a travesty? just curious.
http://www.builtstlouis.net/opos/921locust.html
http://www.builtstlouis.net/opos/mothersfish.html
- 6,775
923 is a disaster. Good riddance, I say. Unless there is some nice building hiding under that dreadful fake Tudor facade, I'll sign up to push the plunger.
921 seems like a nice building.
921 seems like a nice building.
- 3,762
^ ugh. i mean, what else could possibly be done with an attractive CIVIL WAR ERA building and its nicely proportioned brick neighbor? i'm sure that whatever replaces them will lack any sort of interesting detail, as does most modern office space.
thanks for the link, DeBaliviere.
thanks for the link, DeBaliviere.
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:923 is a disaster. Good riddance, I say.
i kind-of like the faux-timber facade - maybe it adds a little diversity to the streetscape? in any case i'd rather see the facade updated than the building scrapped.
While the demolition of neither building is much of a loss, particularly if replaced with a nice new structure, I am somewhat concerned that both could be coming down before any known plan is in place for their replacement.
With the improvements to the Farm and Home Savings, 315 Lofts, and the Syndicate, there is a lot going on at 10th and Locust. Tearing down two buildings on an otherwise intact corner just as the area is ready to thrive seems like a step backward without known development.
The only thing I can think of is that Roberts Tower is selling well even without the advertising and the Roberts are ready to move forward with the previously planned residential tower on this site. Lets just hope this is the case and not another bite sized parking lot in the heart of downtown that is too small for the construction of a new office tower (and without the market for the construction of a new residential building).
With the improvements to the Farm and Home Savings, 315 Lofts, and the Syndicate, there is a lot going on at 10th and Locust. Tearing down two buildings on an otherwise intact corner just as the area is ready to thrive seems like a step backward without known development.
The only thing I can think of is that Roberts Tower is selling well even without the advertising and the Roberts are ready to move forward with the previously planned residential tower on this site. Lets just hope this is the case and not another bite sized parking lot in the heart of downtown that is too small for the construction of a new office tower (and without the market for the construction of a new residential building).
- 8,912
JMedwick wrote:
The only thing I can think of is that Roberts Tower is selling well even without the advertising and the Roberts are ready to move forward with the previously planned residential tower on this site.
what's this about a new residential tower?
- 10K
JMedwick wrote:While the demolition of neither building is much of a loss, particularly if replaced with a nice new structure, I am somewhat concerned that both could be coming down before any known plan is in place for their replacement.
With the improvements to the Farm and Home Savings, 315 Lofts, and the Syndicate, there is a lot going on at 10th and Locust. Tearing down two buildings on an otherwise intact corner just as the area is ready to thrive seems like a step backward without known development.
The only thing I can think of is that Roberts Tower is selling well even without the advertising and the Roberts are ready to move forward with the previously planned residential tower on this site. Lets just hope this is the case and not another bite sized parking lot in the heart of downtown that is too small for the construction of a new office tower (and without the market for the construction of a new residential building).
And maybe this is rehashing previous discussions, but with acres of vacant lots scattered throughout downtown, combined with a struggling economy and housing market, I just don't see the point in tearing down perfectly viable buildings. How nice would it be to have a corner pub in the 923 building and some live/work space and new retail in 921?
New Residential Tower:
From ages ago, but here is the thread with a link to it.
When the Robert's first bought this site, the stated range of development options included everything from rehabbing the buildings (not likely know if they are pursuing demo permits) to a new hotel/ condo tower.
Along those lines, it might make sense to merge this thread with the older one on the Roberts' purchase of this site.
While it would be nice to see construction happen on lots such as the one at Olive and 10th before these buildings are torn down, IF the Roberts are proposing a nice new addition to downtown on the site and are ready and able to move forward with it, I am willing to sacrifice these structures. As Deb rightly points out, they key is the viability of a project. With no known project or plans, there is no reason to tear them down.
From ages ago, but here is the thread with a link to it.
When the Robert's first bought this site, the stated range of development options included everything from rehabbing the buildings (not likely know if they are pursuing demo permits) to a new hotel/ condo tower.
Along those lines, it might make sense to merge this thread with the older one on the Roberts' purchase of this site.
While it would be nice to see construction happen on lots such as the one at Olive and 10th before these buildings are torn down, IF the Roberts are proposing a nice new addition to downtown on the site and are ready and able to move forward with it, I am willing to sacrifice these structures. As Deb rightly points out, they key is the viability of a project. With no known project or plans, there is no reason to tear them down.