So I notice new windows going in to the build at 1623 N Broadway and work going on 920 La Beaume St. Any body know what is up with them?
Jordan's Warehouse & Boat Bar - First I have heard of this - next door to Shady Jacks on N Broadway - Looks pretty cool & the dude wants to do more in the area
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Jordan’s Warehouse | Facebook
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Jordan’s Warehouse | Facebook
I've heard nothing but good things about this place. Apparently at night, it's more of a DJ club, but during the day it's a more relaxed bar atmosphere. Hope the homeless encampment doesn't create too much controversy for this.beer city wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2022Jordan's Warehouse & Boat Bar - First I have heard of this - next door to Shady Jacks on N Broadway - Looks pretty cool & the dude wants to do more in the area
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... the-latest
Jordan’s Warehouse | Facebook
Too funny this has been an on and off again Night Club for at least 15 years. I used to go to highly underground parties in the basement back in the day before it turned into a very gritty underground alleged adult club in the basement ( I only heard stories - not the book store that burned down ) back around 2010 before I left STL. There have also been good warehouse parties happening up that way for years. I remember a cool Art Galleria at the Warehouse American Building and then head over to some crazy dive bar around the corner off of Tyler. Anyways good to see that Shady Jack's, Artica, and now the Boat Bar are continuing to survive. Maybe one day this area could develop a Cermak - Canal Ave South Pilsen Vibe.. It has the potential - Long Live AL's SteakHouse!!
Long story short, some very cool stuff have been happening in this area for years.
Long story short, some very cool stuff have been happening in this area for years.
This homeless encampment is by definition short term. I'm not a real estate developer, but are they really going to be turned off by that? It sounds about like somebody not buying a house because the walls are painted the wrong color.
Given the state of that area and the ample amount of vacant land, crumbling buildings, and other not-so-great amenities like the halfway house, the chemical storage tanks, the giant parking lots and electrical substation, development is going to be a long-term process. That guy's warehouse is also separated from the river by several blocks, the Cotton Belt depot building and a floodwall. It's not what I'd call riverfront.
Given the state of that area and the ample amount of vacant land, crumbling buildings, and other not-so-great amenities like the halfway house, the chemical storage tanks, the giant parking lots and electrical substation, development is going to be a long-term process. That guy's warehouse is also separated from the river by several blocks, the Cotton Belt depot building and a floodwall. It's not what I'd call riverfront.
Not a developer either, but could be the straw that broke the developer's back, so to speak. Apparently one of the business owners has had issues with homeless people just passing out on his front doorstep, so could see why others might want to avoid that.eee123 wrote: ↑Jan 31, 2022I'm not a real estate developer, but are they really going to be turned off by that?
That electrical substation between this area and the casino is the biggest issue for development here, I think. It disconnects the area from downtown too much. Long-term, though, this area has a lot of potential.
This type of underground and alternative DJ-driven nightlife is a precursor to gentrification in neighborhoods. See Wash Ave late '80's and Grove late '90's. I'd say S. Broadway in Carondelet is happening right now. Add N. Broadway around Cass to the list. Prophett's comp to S. Pilsen in Chitown is right on.
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This could end up being super disappointing news.
Sad how St. Louis has let their riverfront crumble away, and how you have people willing to spend nearly $1 million to raze a building with no (public) plans for the area's future.
Sad how St. Louis has let their riverfront crumble away, and how you have people willing to spend nearly $1 million to raze a building with no (public) plans for the area's future.
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That's a shame. I know it would be a tough building to reutilize but it's a bit of an icon of the North Riverfront these days. That mural was a great backdrop to the Artica fest
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it looks like justine peterson is a non-profit that does low-to-moderate income suburban housing, among other things. so any logical CRO and/or PB ruling would disallow demolition until a suitable plan and financing are in place. but they'll go ahead and allow demo anyway because non-profit optics.
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Why would a nonprofit want to buy a building in North City and spend nearly $1m to have it demolished? Shouldn’t there be plenty of already vacant land nearby in Northside that doesn’t require spending a huge amount to demo? Seems like a waste of $. For a building like the Cotton Belt, you either buy it for re-use or don’t buy at all.
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Well…this story took a turn quickly.
The red, blue, yellow and orange eastern wall of the Cotton Belt building adds a rare splash of color to the otherwise gray North Riverfront, making the historic structure easy to spot for motorists entering Missouri on the Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge.
A demolition permit filed Monday would seem to indicate time has finally run out for the long-vacant, historic rail depot constructed in 1911.
The building’s owner, a company affiliated with nonprofit community development lender Justine Petersen, said it did not authorize the demolition permit application.
“Justine Petersen has no interest or intent to demo the Cotton Belt Building,” Galen Gandolfi, Justine Petersen’s chief strategy officer, said in a statement.
The permit to demolish the Cotton Belt says the application was filed by Justine Petersen Properties LLC, care of Brandon Costello.
Justine Petersen Housing and Reinvestment Corporation late last year transferred the building, at 1400 North First Street, to Justine Petersen Properties LLC, of which the nonprofit is the sole member.
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But Gandolfi said “Costello is in no way associated with Justine Petersen Properties LLC — or Justine Petersen in any fashion.”
Costello’s LinkedIn page says he is the director of finance and development at Ashley Energy, the company that operates the downtown steam loop and, just a few hundred feet south of the Cotton Belt, the energy plant that powers the steam loop. He previously worked at several area real estate companies, according to his LinkedIn page.
Costello did not immediately respond to a message left at his extension at Ashley Energy, and the company didn’t immediately respond to an email.
Justine Petersen has owned the Cotton Belt for more than four years, one of several properties the nonprofit has acquired in the area after interest in the neighborhood faded following the ill-fated attempt to build a new NFL stadium in the area.
Past owners have been unable to finance a rehab of the structure, which in recent years has served as a graffiti canvas, unauthorized homeless shelter and postindustrial photography backdrop. No development plans for the Cotton Belt are imminent, Gandolfi said, though the organization has reviewed development proposals from time to time.
The city’s Building Division is still reviewing the application. And the Cotton Belt is on the National Register of Historic Places, so it would also need to be reviewed by the St. Louis Preservation Board before a demolition permit could be issued.
Still, Gandolfi questioned how someone could “get that far” in the demolition permit process without showing legal authorization from a property’s owner, calling it “cause for concern.”
The red, blue, yellow and orange eastern wall of the Cotton Belt building adds a rare splash of color to the otherwise gray North Riverfront, making the historic structure easy to spot for motorists entering Missouri on the Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge.
A demolition permit filed Monday would seem to indicate time has finally run out for the long-vacant, historic rail depot constructed in 1911.
The building’s owner, a company affiliated with nonprofit community development lender Justine Petersen, said it did not authorize the demolition permit application.
“Justine Petersen has no interest or intent to demo the Cotton Belt Building,” Galen Gandolfi, Justine Petersen’s chief strategy officer, said in a statement.
The permit to demolish the Cotton Belt says the application was filed by Justine Petersen Properties LLC, care of Brandon Costello.
Justine Petersen Housing and Reinvestment Corporation late last year transferred the building, at 1400 North First Street, to Justine Petersen Properties LLC, of which the nonprofit is the sole member.
People are also reading…
But Gandolfi said “Costello is in no way associated with Justine Petersen Properties LLC — or Justine Petersen in any fashion.”
Costello’s LinkedIn page says he is the director of finance and development at Ashley Energy, the company that operates the downtown steam loop and, just a few hundred feet south of the Cotton Belt, the energy plant that powers the steam loop. He previously worked at several area real estate companies, according to his LinkedIn page.
Costello did not immediately respond to a message left at his extension at Ashley Energy, and the company didn’t immediately respond to an email.
Justine Petersen has owned the Cotton Belt for more than four years, one of several properties the nonprofit has acquired in the area after interest in the neighborhood faded following the ill-fated attempt to build a new NFL stadium in the area.
Past owners have been unable to finance a rehab of the structure, which in recent years has served as a graffiti canvas, unauthorized homeless shelter and postindustrial photography backdrop. No development plans for the Cotton Belt are imminent, Gandolfi said, though the organization has reviewed development proposals from time to time.
The city’s Building Division is still reviewing the application. And the Cotton Belt is on the National Register of Historic Places, so it would also need to be reviewed by the St. Louis Preservation Board before a demolition permit could be issued.
Still, Gandolfi questioned how someone could “get that far” in the demolition permit process without showing legal authorization from a property’s owner, calling it “cause for concern.”
The link DB neglected to include
StlToday - Cotton Belt demo permit application unauthorized, building owner says
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 28018.html
StlToday - Cotton Belt demo permit application unauthorized, building owner says
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 28018.html
Anyone know what the TRRA is up to at 39 BREMEN AVE?
| TERMINAL RAILROAD ASSOCIATION | Building | 11/04/2021 | 05/16/2022 | MFG | $15,692,116.00 | INTERIOR/EXTERIOR ALT & CONSTRUCT ADDITION PER PLANS |
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https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... e8714.htmlquincunx wrote: ↑May 18, 2022Anyone know what the TRRA is up to at 39 BREMEN AVE?
TERMINAL RAILROAD ASSOCIATION Building 11/04/2021 05/16/2022 MFG $15,692,116.00 INTERIOR/EXTERIOR ALT & CONSTRUCT ADDITION PER PLANS
StlToday - Wind-fueled fire rips through vacant warehouse near St. Louis riverfront
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... ee215.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... ee215.html
And another fire at a vacant building in the Near North Riverfront this morning.
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There goes another beautiful and dense building we will never get back. Would have loved (and still would love) to see that whole complex of warehouses redeveloped into apartments
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If I'm not mistaken most of that complex was already a burned out shell anyway. You can see it on G-maps. No roof on the eastern half of it and lots of burned out timbers scattered through it. Basically already just charcoal. Sounds like it might even have been embers from the first fire that ignited what was left of the building. Hopefully if it was salvageable before it's still salvageable now. I hate top see any turn of the century warehouse burn, but better one that was already burned out than one that's still intact. I'm honestly just glad the first fire didn't take down the building across the street from it, which is quite a bit larger, a bit more ornate, and maybe a more suitable candidate for adaptive reuse. But I'm still crying about the fire that gutted about three of the neighbors in the old cold storage complex twenty or thirty odd years ago.
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Here are a few pictures that I found in a Facebook group I'm in. They were supposedly taken a few days before the fire.
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Man, that tin ceiling was pretty. Never would have guessed that was in there. And if those columns are timber, which is what they look to be, man, those were enormous! 
Just imagine the amount of work that went into even simple buildings like these. And all of the architectural details that someone decided were important enough to include. Shame to see them disintegrate.
Love it!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2022Tried to get dinner at Train Shed last night and we went at 5:00….2.5 hour wait.
Wish we could generate the same type of demand at AL's
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Al's, the north riverfront steakhouse?
According to the owners, they have pretty strong crowds.
According to the owners, they have pretty strong crowds.