Or even for the Tigin/Fado chain people to come back. But their overall count seems to be down. COVID must have hit them hard.
https://fadoirishpub.com/locations/
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Too much hate for the renderings, I think. For a hotel bar, it's pretty good. I'm a fan of wood paneling at a pub, and the green looks fine to me. This place mostly looks like a bar inside a country club, and I'm cool with that. If anything, it just makes me lament the loss of The Dubliner even more. But, considering that this is the old Have A Nice Day Cafe, it's a hell of an improvement. Meanwhile, I'm not looking for schnitzel and fish & chips or anything overly experiential here; Union Station has enough touristy stuff already. If they do end up serving meat pies, that'd be nice, but I wouldn't say that's absolutely necessary here. I'm just glad a proper sports bar near the stadium is on the way.
Personally, I'm planning on being at the Schlafly Taproom for my pre-game already. I'll consider this another option and look forward to seeing the final results.
Personally, I'm planning on being at the Schlafly Taproom for my pre-game already. I'll consider this another option and look forward to seeing the final results.
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The individual or group that opens a Euro-centric bar with tasty Euro dishes next to Centene Stadium is going to make good money.dweebe wrote:Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
There should be a bar where Premier League and Bundesliga fans such as myself have a place to watch games from morning until night. I would love to watch a Euro soccer game at the bar in the morning and then head over to Centene Stadium for a St. Louis City SC game. That would be epic.
This bar should show Cardinals and Blues and whatever else. It should have Budweiser. I'm not asking for a pretentious bar. I'm asking for a new incredible spot to watch early morning international soccer -- and yeah, I kind of want it in the shadow of what we're establishing here locally.
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Not sure if you read the article, but this place will be opening at around 5am for Premier League games.RockChalkSTL wrote:The individual or group that opens a Euro-centric bar with tasty Euro dishes next to Centene Stadium is going to make good money.dweebe wrote:Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
There should be a bar where Premier League and Bundesliga fans such as myself have a place to watch games from morning until night. I would love to watch a Euro soccer game at the bar in the morning and then head over to Centene Stadium for a St. Louis City SC game. That would be epic.
This bar should show Cardinals and Blues and whatever else. It should have Budweiser. I'm not asking for a pretentious bar. I'm asking for a new incredible spot to watch early morning international soccer -- and yeah, I kind of want it in the shadow of what we're establishing here locally.
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Certainly am not asking for that. Just a couple of stinky dive bars that feel authentic and organic rather than slapping me in the face with soccer kits on the wall and $8 drafts because a stadium just popped up next to it.dweebe wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
Anyways, hope its successful, just depressing we have nothing granular and individual immediately around Enterprise Center and Union Station.
One thing they'll need to do is their homework to ensure that they have whatever channels/streaming services are showing European matches and they should know schedules. They should never say "we can't get that game" or "huh?" unless it's some sort of super obscure match between two poorly performing Premiere league teams that nobody in America can get unless they have a VPN.RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022The individual or group that opens a Euro-centric bar with tasty Euro dishes next to Centene Stadium is going to make good money.dweebe wrote:Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
There should be a bar where Premier League and Bundesliga fans such as myself have a place to watch games from morning until night. I would love to watch a Euro soccer game at the bar in the morning and then head over to Centene Stadium for a St. Louis City SC game. That would be epic.
This bar should show Cardinals and Blues and whatever else. It should have Budweiser. I'm not asking for a pretentious bar. I'm asking for a new incredible spot to watch early morning international soccer -- and yeah, I kind of want it in the shadow of what we're establishing here locally.
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Honestly I think this is the type of place that is more likely to pop up once the team (and the surrounding soccer environment) gets going or at least is a lot closer, I don't think it'd be something that gets a press release nearly a year out from the MLS team's first game. Probably the closest we have right now (but for hockey and baseball, not soccer) is Maggie O'Brien's, I'd love something similar showing soccer games.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022Certainly am not asking for that. Just a couple of stinky dive bars that feel authentic and organic rather than slapping me in the face with soccer kits on the wall and $8 drafts because a stadium just popped up next to it.dweebe wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
Anyways, hope its successful, just depressing we have nothing granular and individual immediately around Enterprise Center and Union Station.
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Did Maggie O's close? It was an unpretentious institution with some pubbish fare. (I seem to recall pot pies of some sort. Or shepherd's pie maybe. Been a while.) Besides, half of the pubs I recall in England at least had Budweiser on offer. Not all the chain pubs, probably. (Or at least not the ones owned by the English breweries.) But quite a few had Bud or Amstel or something SAB.
Anyway, I'm fine with this at the station. It's a train station. Even in the great days of railroading the lunch counter was a chain run by Fred Harvey. Along with probably ten thousand other lunch counters, restaurants, and dining cars across the country. And Bud and burgers will be fine. There's Schalaffly a few blocks away and Maggie O's doubtless has Guiness and or Bass and maybe other foreign labels. Not like anybody's going to be pumping Adnam's out of a cask. (And even if they did, I'd be fine with something local anyway. It'll be fresher.)
Anyway, I'm fine with this at the station. It's a train station. Even in the great days of railroading the lunch counter was a chain run by Fred Harvey. Along with probably ten thousand other lunch counters, restaurants, and dining cars across the country. And Bud and burgers will be fine. There's Schalaffly a few blocks away and Maggie O's doubtless has Guiness and or Bass and maybe other foreign labels. Not like anybody's going to be pumping Adnam's out of a cask. (And even if they did, I'd be fine with something local anyway. It'll be fresher.)
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^ still open and recently spruced up a little with complete paint job and signage on the outside and they finally opened up their windows so now you can see people inside and that it's open
1000% this. This whole thread isgoat314 wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022Honestly, I find it weird that MLS fans would want to pattern themselves after European fans. I'd rather have something uniquely American that is representative of what St. Louis is as a city.dweebe wrote: ↑Jun 08, 2022Were you guys really expecting a hard core purist, totally European-centric football only place that was so absolutist that they wouldn't even carry Budweiser plus refused to show dirty American sports like hockey and baseball? Is your demand that the place would fit in perfectly next to Emirates or Old Trattford?
and a shining example of why MLS and the "EPL on NBC" fanboy demographic has stopped me from going to places like The Dam to watch a game since like 2015. An army of tryhards.And the manager of this "Pitch", jesus christ! He should be leading the circus! He clearly has no grasp of the local soccer scene or its history. Nobody who is in their target demographic would ever need to be explained what a pitch is. His "research" of soccer culture is watching Ted Lasso? Just for their use of "Atheltic Club" devoid of any actual meaning makes me want them to fail.
In this thread alone somone posted about, "we need authentic soccer bars.....we need to wholesale steal English/German pubs". LEARN YOUR DAMN ST LOUIS HISTORY, WE DON'T NEED TO RIP OFF ANYONE.
I really hope Amsterdam opens a second bar and puts this Pitch out of business. Give me a Schlafley/Hodaks with 3 TVs over this Dave n Busters sh*t any day of the week.
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There is just as much a place for establishments like this as there is for Amsterdam Taverns and whatnot. The more soccer bars the better IMO, it just further builds the culture
I agree, I don’t get the hate here. It’s a soccer themed bar across from a soccer stadium within a giant tourist trap (Union Station). Seems pretty on point to me. If it’s not your thing just don’t go there.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2022There is just as much a place for establishments like this as there is for Amsterdam Taverns and whatnot. The more soccer bars the better IMO, it just further builds the culture
I don’t understand the purity test and demands.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2022I agree, I don’t get the hate here. It’s a soccer themed bar across from a soccer stadium within a giant tourist trap (Union Station). Seems pretty on point to me. If it’s not your thing just don’t go there.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2022There is just as much a place for establishments like this as there is for Amsterdam Taverns and whatnot. The more soccer bars the better IMO, it just further builds the culture
Would everyone pissed about this place be happy if it was just empty space?
It's not that bad. At least the release didn't mention a "drink program" among other pretentiousness. We do need more dive bars. The hard times lounge was great.
Not really a soccer guy but I don't get why soccer requires we use British words for everything like pitch, kit, clean sheet, etc. when we have American English words for all of that. That plus the dumb Brit verb tense (Stl are winning).
Are we going to say a 2:30 game (sorry, match) is at half two?
Not really a soccer guy but I don't get why soccer requires we use British words for everything like pitch, kit, clean sheet, etc. when we have American English words for all of that. That plus the dumb Brit verb tense (Stl are winning).
Are we going to say a 2:30 game (sorry, match) is at half two?
You can't say "zero" if one or both teams haven't scored: it's nil or nil-nil.eee123 wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2022It's not that bad. At least the release didn't mention a "drink program" among other pretentiousness. We do need more dive bars. The hard times lounge was great.
Not really a soccer guy but I don't get why soccer requires we use British words for everything like pitch, kit, clean sheet, etc. when we have American English words for all of that. That plus the dumb Brit verb tense (Stl are winning).
Are we going to say a 2:30 game (sorry, match) is at half two?
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I’ll just add that sometimes I enjoy the dive bar, sometimes I enjoy the pub, and sometimes I enjoy the “Vegas sports bar.” We really can have it all in the StL.
And like GC, I too remember this as the Have A Nice Day Cafe space.
And like GC, I too remember this as the Have A Nice Day Cafe space.
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i too have a bit of an distaste for the default to "eurofication" of American soccer. I would go as far as preferring teams names like Seattle Sounders, LA Galaxy and Portland Timbers to ones that a clearly homages to the teams in europe like LA FC, Sporting KC, Real Salt Lake, and even St. Louis City SC. I just feel like its trying to be something we not. I do like some of the team symbology like the Coat of Arms but i prefer to present ourselves proudly as Americans, and as Americans one of our maybe weird longstanding tradition has been to name our sports teams after a common job or animal in the region the team is founded.
In the end i am happy we will have a team and i will try not to roll my eyes when i hear people calling a soccer field a pitch, because in the end good soccer is good soccer.
In the end i am happy we will have a team and i will try not to roll my eyes when i hear people calling a soccer field a pitch, because in the end good soccer is good soccer.
Similarly, football is my favorite sport yet I roll my eyes when I here ‘pigskin’ and ‘gridiron’ — don’t try so hard to be ‘in the know.’
Curious, what’s the testosterone/bravado infused version of obsequious?
Curious, what’s the testosterone/bravado infused version of obsequious?
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Tried to get dinner at Train Shed last night and we went at 5:00….2.5 hour wait.
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I saw this at Union Station today where the Conservation and Education Center was, next to the aquarium entrance. Does anyone know anything about this?