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PostAug 28, 2006#51

Jax wrote:Every time he said "heartland," I felt as if a little piece of St. Louis was crushed. I don't like the term at all.


We need to modify it and take it over. Like we did with "Greatest Show on Turf". That modified line will forever be tied to the great Rams teams at the turn of the century.



Maybe we should refer to the St. Louis corridor from Wash U to St. Louis U as America's Smartland.

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PostAug 28, 2006#52

JCity wrote:Wish there was more traffic on Market.



We should get him to come back as often as possible.
If they do it again at the same angle, we should get as many people on cars (and even more pedestrians and bikes) as we can to drive/walk down Market. :)

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PostAug 28, 2006#53

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
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Jax wrote:Every time he said "heartland," I felt as if a little piece of St. Louis was crushed. I don't like the term at all.


I know what you mean. When it is overused, it can be a nice way of saying "flyover country". Instead of of identifying St. Louis as St. Louis, it can be a way of blending St. Louis into the vast, PERCEIVED sameness of the Midwest. It is like saying, "Sorry, we don't have time to learn and understand your real identity."


So when anyone uses the term Northeast or New England, they are dissing Boston or New York? I don't think so...


Northeast, New England, Midwest - not dissing. These are locations.



"The Heartland" is not a location. It is an attempt to invoke an image. It isn't the same thing as "New England", which is a particular region. It isn't dissing, just generalizing too much. It does nothing to bring out the personality of St. Louis. It paints St. Louis with a wide stroke that goes from Pittsburgh to Denver.

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PostAug 28, 2006#54

Gary Kreie wrote:Maybe we should refer to the St. Louis corridor from Wash U to St. Louis U as America's Smartland.


I like that!

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PostAug 28, 2006#55

Jax wrote:
JCity wrote:Wish there was more traffic on Market.



We should get him to come back as often as possible.
If they do it again at the same angle, we should get as many people on cars (and even more pedestrians and bikes) as we can to drive/walk down Market. :)




Hard: I imagine people would want to watch it rather than participate in the "Market filling". But the real key to do isn't to erroneously fill it, its to actually get people downtown walking and riding bikes. People shopping and talking, walking and sitting in the park. If the park was filled with people reading - I wouldn't say we needed to have buildings there. Empty parks and barren streets look bad... but if we are to fill them, we can't lie (like 12th largest market debocle)

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PostAug 28, 2006#56

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I know what you mean. When it is overused, it can be a nice way of saying "flyover country". Instead of of identifying St. Louis as St. Louis, it can be a way of blending St. Louis into the vast, PERCEIVED sameness of the Midwest. It is like saying, "Sorry, we don't have time to learn and understand your real identity."


So when anyone uses the term Northeast or New England, they are dissing Boston or New York? I don't think so...


Northeast, New England, Midwest - not dissing. These are locations.



"The Heartland" is not a location. It is an attempt to invoke an image. It isn't the same thing as "New England", which is a particular region. It isn't dissing, just generalizing too much. It does nothing to bring out the personality of St. Louis. It paints St. Louis with a wide stroke that goes from Pittsburgh to Denver.


Of course it's a location. Just like Midwest, Southeast, Great Plains, etc. They're all arbitrary geographical definitions. While the boundries are rather nebulous, no intelligent person would place LA or Miami or Boston in the "Heartland".

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PostAug 28, 2006#57

^ No, maybe not, but if I threw out the term 'left coast" i bet it has a conotation besides the ablity to define the region I am refering too.

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PostAug 31, 2006#58

Brian Williams' whirlwind trip through St. Louis

By Gail Pennington

POST-DISPATCH TELEVISION CRITIC

08/30/2006



Brian Williams left New York when the sun was barely up last Wednesday, with four newspapers in his briefcase and a day's agenda that included shaking a lot of hands, shooting a lot of promos, writing in his blog and - oh, yeah - putting out an edition of "NBC Nightly News" with a St. Louis dateline.



It wasn't like covering a war or reporting on earthshaking political events. But Williams makes you believe it when he says he loves getting out and getting to know his colleagues across the country, like those who lined up to meet him over a buffet lunch at KSDK (Channel 5).



"And the people here - these are our customers," he says, relaxing for a few minutes with his feet up on a table in a vacant office. "I want to know what they think. I find out a lot when I go to Costco on Saturday mornings or when I talk to my brother in San Antonio, or when I make trips like this. These are my own focus groups."



Williams flew in from New York for the day, arriving in midmorning and leaving for the airport just after 6 p.m. But he made the most of the day, checking out how St. Louis had changed since he was here last and asking hundreds of questions about everything from downtown architecture to KSDK's high-definition cameras to the status of Plaza Frontenac, where he remembers shopping.

"In college" - he attended Georgetown University and the Catholic University of America in Washington - "I fell in with some people from St. Louis," he explains.



"I remember St. Louis when World News in Clayton was the only place in town to buy a New York Times. I feel perfectly at home here. I stayed with a family in Ladue, and once I had a beer at Busch's Grove and saw Augie Busch, which was great.



"But now, wow. The explosion of development downtown is just amazing. You're actually getting people to move back downtown. Do you know how many cities would like to do that?"



After turning off the room's three TV sets, Williams, 47, who appears to be interested in anything and everything, chats on a wide range of subjects: the challenges and joys of the Internet; the line between news and opinion; even his own sense of humor, a well-kept secret to those who see him only on "Nightly News."



"People ask me why they don't see more of my personality," he says. "I wish I did have more light moments, but that's usually not appropriate. So I go on 'The Daily Show' or Jay Leno and joke around. That gets it out of my system."



Next, the tight schedule calls for Williams to join NBC News' regular afternoon conference call to firm up the lineup for that night's newscast. He also has slotted some "quiet time," which he uses to write in the NBC News blog (www.dailynightly.msnbc.com).



Then it's midafternoon and time to turn out some promos for KSDK, with NBC "promo guy" Frank Radice calling the shots.



The studio, built when KSDK's newscasts went high-definition, is packed with people, 16 by one count, some waiting their turn to be featured, others trying to stay out of the way.



General manager Lynn Beall and anchor Karen Foss watch part of the activity from the interview set, where Foss and co-anchor Mike Bush will talk with Williams later. Cindy Preszler and John Fuller slip into the back of the room from the weather center.



"Cameras, roll and keep rolling. Don't stop till I say cut," Radice says.



And most of the time, the cameras do keep rolling. Except for once when Williams misses his cue by half a beat ("I wasn't paying attention"), he is perfect, take after take.



He also keeps the atmosphere light, ad-libbing "St. Louis is crowded" after one shot with what seems to be half the on-air staff lined up on either side of him.



"Damn it, Karen," he says, getting a big laugh after she has been moved twice to keep her head out of his close-up.



Radice says afterward: "No one else does it like Brian. I've never worked with anyone as good as he is."



It's after 4 p.m., and Williams still has to write his script for "Nightly News," which goes on in less than 90 minutes. Even more urgently, KSDK has a 5 p.m. newscast to put on.



"You're thinking about your 5 and not my 5:30," Williams accuses them before rushing to his computer.



In a conference room, senior producer Maralyn Gelefsky is on the phone, planning a trek to New Orleans to mark the Hurricane Katrina anniversary. Her challenge: making sure the engineers get a hot meal in the evening.



Gelefsky has been with NBC 25 years and has planned hundreds of trips, big and small. She was on the Berlin Wall, in Tiananmen Square, and now she's in St. Louis, where she chose the location atop KSDK's building on Market Street for the "Nightly News" remote, despite a storm that had drenched her during a scouting trip.



"We took a chance with the weather, but it worked out," she says of last Wednesday's blue sky and light breeze.



On the roof, with the Old Courthouse and Arch over his shoulder, Williams is again flawless, using a prompter but never sounding as if he's reading. During breaks, he sometimes chats, but more often he watches the taped pieces roll on a monitor.



Then, after a quick picture with Beall and news director Mike Shipley, he's off, down the stairs and into a waiting car. On the way home, he'll read a stack of articles he pulled out of those four newspapers and saved for later. He'll probably also chat with people who recognize and approach him.



"They're our constituents," he says. "We have constituents in all 50 states, and I'm glad of it."

PostAug 31, 2006#59

I thought Brian Williams mentioning the city as the 12th largest was excellent publicity- even if it isn't correct. 18th metro

I thought it it showed off st. louis very well. I liked how in the begininning the annoucer said "reporting tonight from ST. LOUIS" and NOT "St. Louis, Missouri" - this is a major city, everyone should know where it is.

I'm not upset that the newscast didn't cover a lot of things happening in the city, even though it would have been nice. When he reports from LA he doesn't spend time talking about developments there. No instead, it makes us look like a major city, just like LA, or New York. A regular national news program from st. louis. not some cheeseball fluff, full of "local stories."

The reason he reported from here is because of his large audience here, due to KSDK.

I was gritting my teeth the whole time looking at the joke of the Gateway Mall/ Gateway One building, but the arch shot still looked great.

Wish there was more traffic on Market.



We should get him to come back as often as possible.


I agree.

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PostSep 01, 2006#60

"But now, wow. The explosion of development downtown is just amazing. You're actually getting people to move back downtown. Do you know how many cities would like to do that?"


I'm surprised someone at the P-D didn't clip this out of Gail Pennington's story.



Heck, I was surprised to see an article about this in the first place.



Constant references to the "Heartland" and the embarrassing story about Valley Park aside, I think Williams' visit was a success overall. I'm glad to hear that he took notice of our downtown renaissance. Perhaps he can come back here to do a story about that some time! :wink:

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PostSep 05, 2006#61

The Valley Park story didn't make St. Louis look bad. It made outstate Missouri look bad- which it usually does quite well on its own...

Now we need to get Katie Couric (CBS) and Charlie Gibson (ABC) to st. louis.

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PostSep 05, 2006#62

Is anyone else annoyed by the KSDK promos where Brian Williams says,



"St. Louis is the Heartland, where small town ideals mean big city ideas."



I'm quite sure that KSDK scripted that for him-- it's so in line with the image they're going for. Uggh.

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PostSep 05, 2006#63

^I love it!

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PostSep 05, 2006#64

I love it too!!

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PostSep 05, 2006#65

I'm indifferent!!!

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PostSep 05, 2006#66

Loud Noises!!!

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PostSep 07, 2006#67

I Don't Know What We're Yelling About!!!

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