Shameless plug...My brother-in-law's new brewery just opened in W/H within walking distance to the stadium. Area is changing quickly.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Yeah Googling the location first I was thinking the closest area for food/drink would be 12th Avenue South--which is still at least three miles and ten minutes by car. But it does look like there is an emerging artsy neighborhood nearby--Wedgewood/Houston--that wasn't on my radar the last time I spent a significant time in Nashville several years ago. I'll be back in a few weeks and will check it out.
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Give us the full plug.Cuba_Odell wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Shameless plug...My brother-in-law's new brewery just opened in W/H within walking distance to the stadium. Area is changing quickly.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Yeah Googling the location first I was thinking the closest area for food/drink would be 12th Avenue South--which is still at least three miles and ten minutes by car. But it does look like there is an emerging artsy neighborhood nearby--Wedgewood/Houston--that wasn't on my radar the last time I spent a significant time in Nashville several years ago. I'll be back in a few weeks and will check it out.dweebe wrote: ↑Apr 20, 2022It really is an oddball location. Auto-centric and no decent pre/post options. In St. Louis terms it would be like if they built in Cortex but MetrolInk didn't exist.
The area is changing. But 8th Avenue is still a mile + away and it's a really unappealing walk along nasty stroads, across railroad tracks and under an interstate.
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Fait La Force Brewing. Its up on 3rd Ave. They share a building with an Italian restaurant called IL Forno and a place that makes records. Guess its kinda Chestnut Hill/Wedgewood Houston-adjacent? IDK, I live here, lol.dweebe wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Give us the full plug.Cuba_Odell wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Shameless plug...My brother-in-law's new brewery just opened in W/H within walking distance to the stadium. Area is changing quickly.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Apr 21, 2022Yeah Googling the location first I was thinking the closest area for food/drink would be 12th Avenue South--which is still at least three miles and ten minutes by car. But it does look like there is an emerging artsy neighborhood nearby--Wedgewood/Houston--that wasn't on my radar the last time I spent a significant time in Nashville several years ago. I'll be back in a few weeks and will check it out.
The area is changing. But 8th Avenue is still a mile + away and it's a really unappealing walk along nasty stroads, across railroad tracks and under an interstate.
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*Awesome. I will definitely check it out when we are there next month.
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Saw on the nightly news that Nashville is getting the first In-n-out Burger in the Midwest.
I heard this about a week ago… seems like there’s a bit more hand wringing about them ditching their West Coast credentials for an eastward expansion than anything else.
Sounds like they might be losing their “luster” out west…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/202 ... nia-roots/“I don’t see us stretched across the whole U.S.,” owner and president Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson said in a 2018 interview, vowing never in her lifetime to expand any farther east than its Texas outposts. “You put us in every state and it takes away some of its luster.”
Sounds like they might be losing their “luster” out west…
And a regional office.moorlander wrote: ↑Jan 15, 2023Saw on the nightly news that Nashville is getting the first In-n-out Burger in the Midwest.
Nashville is not the Midwest.moorlander wrote: ↑Jan 15, 2023Saw on the nightly news that Nashville is getting the first In-n-out Burger in the Midwest.
Good “gotcha” for Nashville. But with stuff like Shake Shack and HiPointe expanding here I’m not going to wring my hands over it.
Every time I have had In-n-out burger it has been terrible. I don't even want it to come here.
I would prefer either local places or other chains like wattaburger or smashburger.
I would prefer either local places or other chains like wattaburger or smashburger.
Eh, you could say that, but it's an iconic brand. Something like that would be a huge win for an urban neighborhood if it was not drive-thru focused but I'm pretty sure every location is, yes? I also thought Shake Shack would have been great for Wash Ave similar to the urban form one I went to in Chicago years ago. But honestly thought it was far more whelming that In N Out. Fries suck at In N Out (even if you get animal style they are like french's potato sticks), but the burgers are very crushable, and they win in the packaging game with the service paper wrapping. My Steak N Shake has begun boxing and selling with service paper and it's such a great experience to keep your mitts clean, which is how handheld grub like hot dogs and burgers should be.
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All these flat smashed burgers are good and all but I’d take a FatBurger any day over those.c2city wrote:Every time I have had In-n-out burger it has been terrible. I don't even want it to come here.
I would prefer either local places or other chains like wattaburger or smashburger.
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Yeah it's been years since I've had In N Out but I thought it had diminishing returns on even the second visit. Nashville has become the preeminent bachelorette party HQ in midwest/south, possibly east coast too (though on my last visit to Charleston it seemed to be drawing a lot of those from DC, NYC). So you could be right that this is attempting to draw on a geography that hasn't lost interest in it yet.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Jan 15, 2023I heard this about a week ago… seems like there’s a bit more hand wringing about them ditching their West Coast credentials for an eastward expansion than anything else.https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/202 ... nia-roots/“I don’t see us stretched across the whole U.S.,” owner and president Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson said in a 2018 interview, vowing never in her lifetime to expand any farther east than its Texas outposts. “You put us in every state and it takes away some of its luster.”
Sounds like they might be losing their “luster” out west…
Since we are talking burgers and Nashville, I am connecting (ugh) at BNA on Wed and I see they have a Shake Shack in C!
Will have to hit that up. I've not yet been and I have two hours between flights so it *should* be plenty of time.
Will have to hit that up. I've not yet been and I have two hours between flights so it *should* be plenty of time.
They are putting a shake shack in T2 here.
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why are so many people moving to TN Nashville?
https://usafacts.org/data-projects/states-with-lowest-tax-burden
https://usafacts.org/data-projects/states-with-lowest-tax-burden
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Snowball effect.
Nashville has a powerful cultural niche that drives huge amounts of tourism from the surrounding 500 mile radius. Within the radius, Nashville is the top destination for shindigs the young and upwardly mobile do like fraternity formals and bachelor/bachelorette parties.
The "vibe" or "energy" of Nashville impresses them on their weekend visit and suddenly the city is on the short list of places they would consider moving to when they graduate/decide to move from their boring town. Nashville keeps growing, the snowball rolls further down the hill, and it seems even more vibrant to future visitors. Just another reason we need to make downtown a regional priority, we get plenty of tourism but downtown just doesn't impress people like Nashville does.
It helps even more that Nashville has a pretty comparatively small "urban" area to places like STL which makes it easier to build out and justify giant glass towers. STL would need 10x the amount of development to get to that level of density just in the central corridor because we have such a massive urban landscape.
Nashville has a powerful cultural niche that drives huge amounts of tourism from the surrounding 500 mile radius. Within the radius, Nashville is the top destination for shindigs the young and upwardly mobile do like fraternity formals and bachelor/bachelorette parties.
The "vibe" or "energy" of Nashville impresses them on their weekend visit and suddenly the city is on the short list of places they would consider moving to when they graduate/decide to move from their boring town. Nashville keeps growing, the snowball rolls further down the hill, and it seems even more vibrant to future visitors. Just another reason we need to make downtown a regional priority, we get plenty of tourism but downtown just doesn't impress people like Nashville does.
It helps even more that Nashville has a pretty comparatively small "urban" area to places like STL which makes it easier to build out and justify giant glass towers. STL would need 10x the amount of development to get to that level of density just in the central corridor because we have such a massive urban landscape.
The vibe I got after a weekend visit to downtown on a beautiful Saturday was that it felt like a honky tonk version of Cancun during spring break only w/ way more adults than college kids. It was equal parts impressive due to the crowds/energy and eye-roll inducing after you see the 20th party trailer rolling down Broadway being pulled by a bulldozer that has "let's get plowed" plastered on the side.
I'd be curious to see downtown during a weekday because the weekend traffic is probably 90% tourist. I'd have to assume that residents avoid that area like the plague on the weekends, like NYC people stay away from Times Square. Didn't get to see much of the surrounding neighborhoods as the majority of the weekend was in Brentwood/Franklin area which is nice.
There certainly are a lot of new glass towers popping up all over the place.
I'd be curious to see downtown during a weekday because the weekend traffic is probably 90% tourist. I'd have to assume that residents avoid that area like the plague on the weekends, like NYC people stay away from Times Square. Didn't get to see much of the surrounding neighborhoods as the majority of the weekend was in Brentwood/Franklin area which is nice.
There certainly are a lot of new glass towers popping up all over the place.
What struck me during my visit to Nashville was how all the growth seems to radiate out from downtown. Our development is mostly linear, but theirs is more like an onion, growing ever more rings. Downtown seems to be visible from every neighborhood.
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^I'd agree with that. Though going east there is a fair amount of dead space once you cross the bridge and before you get to the trendy nabes of East Nashville.
Just wondering if anyone sees Tennessee's increasingly right-wing legislative actions ultimately affecting Nashville's boom?
No. Texas and Florida hasn’t slowed down, so no reason to think Nashville will. Companies care about their bank account more than anything.framer wrote: ↑Apr 08, 2023Just wondering if anyone sees Tennessee's increasingly right-wing legislative actions ultimately affecting Nashville's boom?
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Talked with quite a few people that are permanent WFH. Places that don’t have state income tax will be huge benefactors of that population especially the ones that have no families/kids or can easily move. I know 5ish people that plan to move to Texas or Tennessee within the next 2 years as it saves them lots of money.jshank83 wrote:No. Texas and Florida hasn’t slowed down, so no reason to think Nashville will. Companies care about their bank account more than anything.framer wrote: ↑Apr 08, 2023Just wondering if anyone sees Tennessee's increasingly right-wing legislative actions ultimately affecting Nashville's boom?
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Florida is reveling in their new status as the place where "woke goes to die" or whatever. I think you'll see less migration there from more liberal cities than before. Texas is going more purple and could flip if the state goes much further to the right and the GOP's losses in the suburbs overwhelm their slight growth with Hispanics in South TX.jshank83 wrote: ↑Apr 08, 2023No. Texas and Florida hasn’t slowed down, so no reason to think Nashville will. Companies care about their bank account more than anything.framer wrote: ↑Apr 08, 2023Just wondering if anyone sees Tennessee's increasingly right-wing legislative actions ultimately affecting Nashville's boom?
Nashville is unique in that it's booming while the rest of the state is not. I get the feeling people who move to Nashville are generally center left to center right. I don't think people are moving there for political reasons. Yes it's been a right leaning state but if it moves too far to the right even those who moved there to escape higher taxes of Northeastern cities could be turned off to the GOP.
In short I don't think it will cause growth to slow. But it could change partisan makeup of the region, though it would take quite a big shift to make the whole state competitive.