I've aways liked the SLCC logo. I'm glad they've stuck with it over the years.
No kidding. Can't say I like it that much, but they have definitely stuck with that logo, since at least the mid-'80s. That style is very disco, so it could even date from the '70s...wabash wrote: ↑Aug 14, 2020I've aways liked the SLCC logo. I'm glad they've stuck with it over the years.
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns ... the-latestSt. Louis SC has hired German soccer executive Lutz Pfannenstiel as its sporting director, the team confirmed Monday.
This is why I loved the idea of the name being something along the lines of Gateway City United. Something that is uniquely St. Louis and also brings the entire metro and region together with the focus being on downtown St. Louis.
Oh, well. It's not to be.
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I think Gateway would have been a miss. While we do have an internationally known monument to our status as a gateway city, we are far from the only city who considers ourself a gateway to somewhere else. That alone would have created confusion. I think settling on City is a great way to remind the region that we become nothing without our core city, and its downtown.stl_dan wrote:This is why I loved the idea of the name being something along the lines of Gateway City United. Something that is uniquely St. Louis and also brings the entire metro and region together with the focus being on downtown St. Louis.
Oh, well. It's not to be.
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Logical take.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Aug 23, 2020I think Gateway would have been a miss. While we do have an internationally known monument to our status as a gateway city, we are far from the only city who considers ourself a gateway to somewhere else. That alone would have created confusion. I think settling on City is a great way to remind the region that we become nothing without our core city, and its downtown.stl_dan wrote:This is why I loved the idea of the name being something along the lines of Gateway City United. Something that is uniquely St. Louis and also brings the entire metro and region together with the focus being on downtown St. Louis.
Oh, well. It's not to be.
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In the end, I'm extremely excited St. Louis has a new professional sports franchise and can't wait for the next two years to unfold in preparation for the 2023 inaugural season.
Go St. Louis City SC!
p.s. I really like how another poster indicated "SC" could also allude to "Soccer Capital" in addition the more traditional "soccer club". I think I'll just go ahead and program my brain to see "Soccer Capital".
Saint Louis FC - the current USL team that plays in Fenton - will be shutting down after this season:
https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/08/25/saint-louis-fc-fold-usl-mls-expansion-st-louis-city
https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/08/25/saint-louis-fc-fold-usl-mls-expansion-st-louis-city
I still don't understand how there was no contact between the USL and MLS teams, especially with Jim being involved with both.wabash wrote: ↑Aug 25, 2020Saint Louis FC - the current USL team that plays in Fenton - will be shutting down after this season:
https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/08/25/saint-louis-fc-fold-usl-mls-expansion-st-louis-city
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There was contact. At the very beginning STLFC/St. Louis Scott Gallagher (SLSG) were included as part of the development pyramid under the MLS team. But, I don't think SLSG wanted to be tied to a single MLS team and given the latest statements by St. Louis City SC and Lutz Pfannenstiel, I'm not sure City wanted to be tied to a mostly pay-to-play private academy. So with MLS coming to town and setting up their own free academy, operating STLFC no longer makes sense for SLSG because having a second tier professional team as a showcase for academy kids isn't as big of a draw as it once was. I'm not sure STLFC ever brought in enough revenue to pay for itself and this year they have probably been suffering significant losses.
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That's pretty much how I'm seeing it as well. The 'Pay to Play' comments by Lutz seem to be foreshadowing of a better youth system for the region. And if the plan is to actually create an environment with a strong development league, it will ultimately end up having a USLC, USL1, or NISA team. This would happen after they've had a few years to build up a proper high level PDL academy - Lutz already mentioned a U-16 U-17 league as soon as Covid permits. Not to mention, you want your development leagues to have the same branding as your MLS team... its good advertising.
On another note, an end to the pay-to-play era in St. Louis is a really great thing for the region. Accessibility is a problem for a lot youth sports, Soccer included. Really hoping this is what ends up happening... my thousand foot view points this direction, but starting from the ground up can be expensive...
On another note, an end to the pay-to-play era in St. Louis is a really great thing for the region. Accessibility is a problem for a lot youth sports, Soccer included. Really hoping this is what ends up happening... my thousand foot view points this direction, but starting from the ground up can be expensive...
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On this note, do the Cardinals have a developmental system? Baseball is killed by the pay to play scheme, as well.pattimagee wrote:That's pretty much how I'm seeing it as well. The 'Pay to Play' comments by Lutz seem to be foreshadowing of a better youth system for the region. And if the plan is to actually create an environment with a strong development league, it will ultimately end up having a USLC, USL1, or NISA team. This would happen after they've had a few years to build up a proper high level PDL academy - Lutz already mentioned a U-16 U-17 league as soon as Covid permits. Not to mention, you want your development leagues to have the same branding as your MLS team... its good advertising.
On another note, an end to the pay-to-play era in St. Louis is a really great thing for the region. Accessibility is a problem for a lot youth sports, Soccer included. Really hoping this is what ends up happening... my thousand foot view points this direction, but starting from the ground up can be expensive...
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The Cardinals have an extensive developmental system.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Aug 25, 2020On this note, do the Cardinals have a developmental system? Baseball is killed by the pay to play scheme, as well.pattimagee wrote:That's pretty much how I'm seeing it as well. The 'Pay to Play' comments by Lutz seem to be foreshadowing of a better youth system for the region. And if the plan is to actually create an environment with a strong development league, it will ultimately end up having a USLC, USL1, or NISA team. This would happen after they've had a few years to build up a proper high level PDL academy - Lutz already mentioned a U-16 U-17 league as soon as Covid permits. Not to mention, you want your development leagues to have the same branding as your MLS team... its good advertising.
On another note, an end to the pay-to-play era in St. Louis is a really great thing for the region. Accessibility is a problem for a lot youth sports, Soccer included. Really hoping this is what ends up happening... my thousand foot view points this direction, but starting from the ground up can be expensive...
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As in youth? Not minor leagues.wabash wrote:The Cardinals have an extensive developmental system.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Aug 25, 2020On this note, do the Cardinals have a developmental system? Baseball is killed by the pay to play scheme, as well.pattimagee wrote:That's pretty much how I'm seeing it as well. The 'Pay to Play' comments by Lutz seem to be foreshadowing of a better youth system for the region. And if the plan is to actually create an environment with a strong development league, it will ultimately end up having a USLC, USL1, or NISA team. This would happen after they've had a few years to build up a proper high level PDL academy - Lutz already mentioned a U-16 U-17 league as soon as Covid permits. Not to mention, you want your development leagues to have the same branding as your MLS team... its good advertising.
On another note, an end to the pay-to-play era in St. Louis is a really great thing for the region. Accessibility is a problem for a lot youth sports, Soccer included. Really hoping this is what ends up happening... my thousand foot view points this direction, but starting from the ground up can be expensive...
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^ Outside of donations to local organizations that sponsor youth teams, I don’t believe any MLB team has a full blown youth developmental system. If there is one I’ve not heard about it.
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Some MLB teams have their own youth academies, but not all. The Nationals were early adopters and have a pretty decent program: https://www.mlb.com/nationals/youth-baseball-academy
There are others in LA, KC, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Houston, Phillie, and coming soon to both NYC and San Francisco. They are supported primarily by local teams. MLB also sponsors academies in Puerto Rico and New Orleans.
There are others in LA, KC, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Houston, Phillie, and coming soon to both NYC and San Francisco. They are supported primarily by local teams. MLB also sponsors academies in Puerto Rico and New Orleans.
MLB also has really focused on their Play Ball initiative to make baseball accessible for all youth: https://www.playball.org/
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Just for the record, I was more comparing the Cardinals farm as a way to save $$ on signing free agents versus getting control of developed prospects.
Same idea, but obviously the structures of MLB and soccer development leagues are on completely different levels. However, the method of managing/organizing those leagues probably have some similar insights.
Same idea, but obviously the structures of MLB and soccer development leagues are on completely different levels. However, the method of managing/organizing those leagues probably have some similar insights.
^No reason why they can't adopt the Louligans though, unless they don't want to, of course.
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The Louligans have already said publicly they aren't going anywhere - they also have strong ties to Jim Kavanaugh.
I know, just thinking that CITY (you forgot the caps
) may be inclined to start fresh with their own "official" supporter club to sponsor fan events/charity fundraisers.But I guess I really don't know how MLS teams approach such things these days, as I haven't been to an MLS game since the Fire played at Soldier Field (the first time around)...
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ST. LOUIS (KMOX) - Fans have set a new Major League Soccer record in the first six hours of sales for deposits on St. Louis City SC season tickets.
The team announced on Twitter Wednesday afternoon that a record had been set, but the total number of deposits hasn't been released yet
Austin did 30,000 and that was a record....soooo
The team announced on Twitter Wednesday afternoon that a record had been set, but the total number of deposits hasn't been released yet
Austin did 30,000 and that was a record....soooo
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I heard a rumor that they had broken 30,000 seats for 10,000 accounts by 11:00am. Although the published start time was 10 am, a link was sent to the St. Louligans that allowed them to start placing deposits at 8:00 and STLFC season ticket holders received a link for 9:00 so assuming those were shared around a bit there were probably a thousand accounts or more registered before the official start time. People were allowed to indicate they would be purchasing up to 8 seats on a single deposit so whatever the final seat number is, it is probably pretty inflated over actual demand. If you assume each account averages 2 tickets actually purchased, they are still doing pretty well. Plus 10,000 accounts for at least $50 a pop is a pretty good chunk of cash to be sitting on.