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PostAug 05, 2022#301

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Besides the Kansas vote Mark McCloskey struggling to get 3% in the primary was a key highlight from Tuesday. 

See ya loser!
Pretty impressive considering how insipid the competition was.

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PostAug 05, 2022#302

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The new ward map will certainly take some time to get used to.

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PostAug 09, 2022#303

Missouri voters will get that chance to decide in November if marijuana will become fully legalized in the state.

Missouri voters to decide whether to legalize marijuana in November
Ashcroft, a Republican, said his office confirmed that the campaign to place a legalization question on the ballot indeed collected enough signatures for voters to weigh in this fall, despite unofficial reports from counties last month indicating the effort would fall short.
At the same time, Ashcroft said a plan to institute ranked-choice voting did not collect enough signatures to make the November ballot. The campaign backing the measure, Better Elections, expressed disappointment.

Legal Missouri 2022, which had poured nearly $6 million into the marijuana campaign, now must convince a majority of Missouri voters to back legalizing marijuana in the Nov. 8 general election.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/marijuana/missouri-voters-to-decide-whether-to-legalize-marijuana-in-november/article_cb68f576-b482-56d0-aaba-e903a73a376f.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

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PostAug 10, 2022#304

airforceguy1 wrote:
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Missouri voters will get that chance to decide in November if marijuana will become fully legalized in the state.

Missouri voters to decide whether to legalize marijuana in November
Ashcroft, a Republican, said his office confirmed that the campaign to place a legalization question on the ballot indeed collected enough signatures for voters to weigh in this fall, despite unofficial reports from counties last month indicating the effort would fall short.
At the same time, Ashcroft said a plan to institute ranked-choice voting did not collect enough signatures to make the November ballot. The campaign backing the measure, Better Elections, expressed disappointment.

Legal Missouri 2022, which had poured nearly $6 million into the marijuana campaign, now must convince a majority of Missouri voters to back legalizing marijuana in the Nov. 8 general election.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/marijuana/missouri-voters-to-decide-whether-to-legalize-marijuana-in-november/article_cb68f576-b482-56d0-aaba-e903a73a376f.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
Missouri voters get to decide
*unless the state government doesn't like what voters chose in which case they'll just ignore or undermine the decision

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PostAug 10, 2022#305

^ I feel like marijuana is less of a decisive political issue than Medicaid expansion. Especially since medical pot has already been legalized here.

Plus it’s worth remembering that Jeff City Republicans lost the Medicaid expansion battle…so far. Also, the right to work battle, the minimum wage battle, etc.

Keep doing those amendments, Missouri voters!

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PostAug 10, 2022#306

sc4mayor wrote:
Aug 10, 2022
^ I feel like marijuana is less of a decisive political issue than Medicaid expansion.  Especially since medical pot has already been legalized here.

Plus it’s worth remembering that Jeff City Republicans lost the Medicaid expansion battle…so far.  Also, the right to work battle, the minimum wage battle, etc.

Keep doing those amendments, Missouri voters!
I think you're probably right, though South Dakota ignored it when their voters voted to legalize. I'm just weary of the possibility of shenanigans if the government doesn't like the vote.

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PostAug 10, 2022#307

^ I’ve essentially become numb to shenanigans in Jeff City. I don’t disagree with you at all by the way haha.

They will definitely try and f*ck with it. Constitutional amendments make that f*ckary that much harder. Keep it up!

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PostAug 10, 2022#308

I think it gets approved and I don't think Missouri will interfere too much with legalization.

I think they want the money.

Where I think they might be absolute pains is with expungement and stuff like that. 

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PostAug 20, 2022#309

StlToday - Voters will decide in November if Missouri needs a new state constitution

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 57181.html

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PostAug 20, 2022#310

LOL
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PostAug 20, 2022#311

I’m sure if we vote to re-write the Missouri Constitution, the GOP will eliminate initiative petition altogether so we can’t do things like Medicaid Expansion, or a Kansas-style return to Roe.


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PostAug 21, 2022#312

I see no reason to rewrite the state's constitution, it's not even that old relatively speaking, and we have ways of amending it that I guess some people consider a little too permissive.

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PostAug 22, 2022#313

^From what I was reading that's one of the complaints: that the referendum process has made it too specific. Mind you, I believe that's in part because people are tired of the legislature simply overturning initiatives. I think the legislators are tired of having their hands tied and they're hoping they can permanently cut loose with a new constitution. Dollars to donuts it won't have the same referendum processes in it.

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PostAug 22, 2022#314

From what I understand, Missouri votes on this once every 20 years. The last time Missouri voted to adjust the state constitution was in 1962.

It feels like I should be voting 'no.'

I think it's great that Missourians can collect signatures and force issues onto the ballot. I don't want to see that go anywhere. 

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PostAug 22, 2022#315

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I think it's great that Missourians can collect signatures and force issues onto the ballot. I don't want to see that go anywhere. 
It's the last vestige of democracy we have left!

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PostAug 22, 2022#316

Great to hear all the state's short and long term obligations are covered.

StlToday - Missouri lawmakers to take up tax cuts next month

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 5a66c.html

PostAug 22, 2022#317

Raising the standard deduction sounds good, but why not raise it more instead of cutting the top rate? Or cut the sale tax? Or give people state tax credit for KC and STL earnings taxes to make up for the wealth the state takes away from the regions to spend elsewhere?

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PostAug 23, 2022#318

^Because that doesn't please the big donors. They want to see the state run on sales taxes and with no income tax at all.

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PostAug 23, 2022#319

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^Because that doesn't please the big donors. They want to see the state run on sales taxes and with no income tax at all.
I wish they would! I’m no conservative but looking at TX, TN, and NC, it’s clear that a state can be successful with low taxes and fiscal conservatism. But these rednecks in Jeff City have managed to create a situation where Missouri’s taxes aren’t that low and our services suck.

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PostAug 23, 2022#320

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symphonicpoet wrote:
Aug 23, 2022
^Because that doesn't please the big donors. They want to see the state run on sales taxes and with no income tax at all.
I wish they would! I’m no conservative but looking at TX, TN, and NC, it’s clear that a state can be successful with low taxes and fiscal conservatism. But these rednecks in Jeff City have managed to create a situation where Missouri’s taxes aren’t that low and our services suck.
those 3 states have something in common.....they all take more money from fed gov than give, so its easy to cut state taxes when you're sucking off the federal tit. 

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PostAug 23, 2022#321

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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Aug 23, 2022
symphonicpoet wrote:
Aug 23, 2022
^Because that doesn't please the big donors. They want to see the state run on sales taxes and with no income tax at all.
I wish they would! I’m no conservative but looking at TX, TN, and NC, it’s clear that a state can be successful with low taxes and fiscal conservatism. But these rednecks in Jeff City have managed to create a situation where Missouri’s taxes aren’t that low and our services suck.
those 3 states have something in common.....they all take more money from fed gov than give, so its easy to cut state taxes when you're sucking off the federal tit. 
And we don’t?

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PostAug 23, 2022#322

Yes Missouri does too, hence why they want to cut the state tax from 5.5 to 4.8, because we are a taker state (most red states are)

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PostAug 23, 2022#323

I already looked it up. Each of TX, TN and NC have a smaller ratio of federal funding to income taxes paid than Missouri and Federal Funds to total budget.

PostAug 23, 2022#324

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 23, 2022
Yes Missouri does too, hence why they want to cut the state tax from 5.5 to 4.8, because we are a taker state (most red states are)
But those states aren’t “takers”. They actually have economic development.

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PostAug 23, 2022#325

symphonicpoet wrote:
Aug 23, 2022
^Because that doesn't please the big donors. They want to see the state run on sales taxes and with no income tax at all.
I know. Thing is they'd have to like triple the state's portion of the sales tax (3% is for state general revenue) to make up for it. Or make it apply to other things, or raise other taxes, or do even less.

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