I wonder how many abortions Kavanaugh has personally paid for.
How many life defining reversals before we take this seriously?
Also save the sob story about taxes, finances, and feasibility. I don’t care.
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Also save the sob story about taxes, finances, and feasibility. I don’t care.
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^Yes! If everyone is going to say we're the second largest municipality in the state let's at least make it serious and be "second" to a place that deserves to be first.
Or Trump if you include his idiot sons?captainjackass wrote: ↑Jun 24, 2022I wonder how many abortions Kavanaugh has personally paid for.
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the male birth control pill is becoming more of a reality will they ban that too??
Do men have any say in this abortion issue at all? "I'm having YOUR child and YOUR on the hook for at least the next 18 years"
Do men have any say in this abortion issue at all? "I'm having YOUR child and YOUR on the hook for at least the next 18 years"
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Thomas already said in his concurrence that SCOTUS should "revisit" the legality of contraceptives, gay marriage and oral/anal sex.mikenewell48 wrote: ↑Jun 24, 2022the male birth control pill is becoming more of a reality will they ban that too??
Do men have any say in this abortion issue at all? "I'm having YOUR child and YOUR on the hook for at least the next 18 years"
Eric Schmitt is sending out campaign mailings with the STL skyline reversed.
YES. Missourah is unredeemable. The backwards legislature in this state is grossly underestimating the economic fallout that will inevitably result from this disgusting, immoral abortion ban. Companies will leave because as challenging as it already is to attract and retain top talent to Missourah, it's now going to be practically impossible. Any sane person who might've been considering a relocation to St. Louis or Kansas City can now cross those cities off their "maybe" list. St. Louis is trapped. Our progress as a city and region has always been stifled by the state legislature, but this hardline, no-exception, total abortion ban is the nail in the coffin. F**k Missouri- what has happened here is indefensible. I will always love our city but truly detest the state we are stuck in.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jun 24, 2022How many life defining reversals before we take this seriously?
Also save the sob story about taxes, finances, and feasibility. I don’t care.
Obama shouldn't have promised that, but they didn't have the votes. Yes, I know they had a filibuster-proof Senate majority for about 4 months in late 2009 and early 2010, but they absolutely would not have been able to get anywhere near 60 of those Democrats to vote for cloture on a Roe codifying bill, given how many conservative red state Democrats were in the senate at the time (Democrats held seats in both Dakotas, Indiana, Louisiana and Arkansas at the time),Trololzilla wrote: ↑May 14, 2022Codifying Roe v. Wade in the form of the Freedom of Choice Act was literally the first thing Obama said he'd do once he was in office. Yet despite that and the Democrats holding a majority in both houses of Congress at the time, they did nothing.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑May 14, 2022Not sure how you can say that when Democrats appointed every justice that voted to uphold Roe.MarkHaversham wrote: ↑May 13, 2022Democrats have spent 50 years doing nothing to protect abortion rights so I'll be surprised if it makes much difference. They might get a small bump this year while RvW is in the news that fades when nothing changes.
It's the pandering and then not actually doing what they say they're gonna do even when they're well in control of the government that's going to be the Democrats' undoing. Reap what you sow, I suppose.
Like repealing the Affordable Care Act when they controlled both chambers of Congress and the White House?Trololzilla wrote: ↑May 15, 2022Right. Say what you want about Republicans, but when they want something done they generally do get it done.
I'm going to get chewed up for this, but it's not the first time.
To preface this, this is the first time I'm commenting on this issue. I was raised in a family where both sides of the argument have been said in great detail (especially in the past two days). I understand both sides of the argument, but I fall into the category of, "I'm a guy. I cannot say anything in this case because of how I was raised and it's personally none of my business what people want to do, in private and in consultation with their doctor and family".
Personally, I see most Missourians as sensible people who just want what's best. This is a state that overturned the Right to Work rule in a 2018 referendum with nearly 68% voting to overturn the measure, passed Medicaid expansion with 53% of the vote, re-elected Nicole Galloway auditor with 50% of the vote compared to 44% for Saundra McDowell, and passed (before overturning) a non-partisan redistricting measure all within the past 4 years.
Abortion is one of the issues that's a touchy subject for outstate, and even suburban, Republicans and I can see why. Being "pro-life" has been a part of the Conservative Traditionalist-wing of the Republican party platform for a while now. I think that's really the only reason the state has voted, and trended more, Republican instead of more Democratic despite Democrats here being relatively moderate on issues that appeal to more centrist Republicans whereas in a state like Illinois, things are generally more liberal (thanks to Chicago) and less appealing to the same block of voters.
My observations make me believe that if voters all across the state looked beyond the abortion issue (even though it's very important to people), then we'd be very much alike ideologically (because we are). Most Missourians seem to back Unions, want good healthcare, lower taxes, maintained infrastructure, honest/trustworthy leaders, and security in the jobs, safety, and education categories. Abortion, in my view, is the outlier that starts splitting people along partisan and, in some cases, religious lines. Guns used to be, and still are for the most part, a hot topic issue but not quite like abortion is at this point.
Anyways, it's too early to tell what will happen here as a result of this. People can predict what will happen one way or another, and some will be spot on, and others will be insanely wrong, but I doubt the good times we've seen in St. Louis will cease. We just got to keep on truckin' to best we can. If we let our minds wander off from a net-positive goal, so will the community and that'll have a far worse impact on the future than you might expect.
For now, things could be rough as new rules set in and the dust settles. Despite this, we need to keep our heads held high, push on, and unite behind common goals because I know it's possible. I might sound naive, but I'm trying to remain positive. I do not have answers or even a remote idea of how to navigate out of this situation while keeping people happy. What happened yesterday was the culmination of 50 years of organizing and rallying the pro-life, traditionalist Republicans to get out and vote. Whether or not we see a similar event take place on the Democratic side remains to be seen. The first opportunity is November. Your vote carries weight.
To preface this, this is the first time I'm commenting on this issue. I was raised in a family where both sides of the argument have been said in great detail (especially in the past two days). I understand both sides of the argument, but I fall into the category of, "I'm a guy. I cannot say anything in this case because of how I was raised and it's personally none of my business what people want to do, in private and in consultation with their doctor and family".
Personally, I see most Missourians as sensible people who just want what's best. This is a state that overturned the Right to Work rule in a 2018 referendum with nearly 68% voting to overturn the measure, passed Medicaid expansion with 53% of the vote, re-elected Nicole Galloway auditor with 50% of the vote compared to 44% for Saundra McDowell, and passed (before overturning) a non-partisan redistricting measure all within the past 4 years.
Abortion is one of the issues that's a touchy subject for outstate, and even suburban, Republicans and I can see why. Being "pro-life" has been a part of the Conservative Traditionalist-wing of the Republican party platform for a while now. I think that's really the only reason the state has voted, and trended more, Republican instead of more Democratic despite Democrats here being relatively moderate on issues that appeal to more centrist Republicans whereas in a state like Illinois, things are generally more liberal (thanks to Chicago) and less appealing to the same block of voters.
My observations make me believe that if voters all across the state looked beyond the abortion issue (even though it's very important to people), then we'd be very much alike ideologically (because we are). Most Missourians seem to back Unions, want good healthcare, lower taxes, maintained infrastructure, honest/trustworthy leaders, and security in the jobs, safety, and education categories. Abortion, in my view, is the outlier that starts splitting people along partisan and, in some cases, religious lines. Guns used to be, and still are for the most part, a hot topic issue but not quite like abortion is at this point.
Anyways, it's too early to tell what will happen here as a result of this. People can predict what will happen one way or another, and some will be spot on, and others will be insanely wrong, but I doubt the good times we've seen in St. Louis will cease. We just got to keep on truckin' to best we can. If we let our minds wander off from a net-positive goal, so will the community and that'll have a far worse impact on the future than you might expect.
For now, things could be rough as new rules set in and the dust settles. Despite this, we need to keep our heads held high, push on, and unite behind common goals because I know it's possible. I might sound naive, but I'm trying to remain positive. I do not have answers or even a remote idea of how to navigate out of this situation while keeping people happy. What happened yesterday was the culmination of 50 years of organizing and rallying the pro-life, traditionalist Republicans to get out and vote. Whether or not we see a similar event take place on the Democratic side remains to be seen. The first opportunity is November. Your vote carries weight.
You know what's super depressing?addxb2 wrote: ↑Jun 24, 2022How many life defining reversals before we take this seriously?
Also save the sob story about taxes, finances, and feasibility. I don’t care.
Josh Hawley might be the singularly most despicable person to ever represent the state of Missouri in the United States Senate. And the person who replaces Roy Blunt (Greitens or Schmitt, most likely) in November is almost certainly going to be even worse.
^I wish this could be done.addxb2 wrote:How many life defining reversals before we take this seriously?
Also save the sob story about taxes, finances, and feasibility. I don’t care.
Unlike a lot of blue cities in red states, a significant part of the St. Louis metro area lies in a blue state. It is time to build up Metro East Illinois and promote this option. So many other cities do not have this escape hatch (KC for instance).
Food for thought.
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This is demonstrably untrue. Democrats have had a dozen supermajorities since RvW and done nothing about it. Even now they could do plenty. For one thing, kick Sinema and Manchin (and less vocal anti-choice Democrats) off their committees if they don't facilitate the party's basic platform planks. Demand that the courts be packed until SCOTUS supports human rights. Put a stop to corporate payouts until they get the votes. Attach a human rights amendment to every single bill until it passes.chriss752 wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2022Your vote carries weight.
Joe Biden has already clarified that he, personally, has no interest in doing anything about this. Nancy Pelosi supports anti-choice Democrats against progressive challengers. The Democrats didn't pass laws on abortion rights, gay rights, trans rights, or anything else of worth. They will continue to do nothing, because they have no interest in abortion rights. Protecting the grift train is more important to them than the fundamental rights of Americans to control their own bodies.
You want to make your vote matter, throw Vote Blue No Matter Who in the garbage can where it belongs. Call Nancy Pelosi and tell her you aren't voting for a single Democrat until they legalize human rights. They already have a majority, if they don't support human rights then there's no reason for them to keep it.
Throw out baby with bath waterMarkHaversham wrote:This is demonstrably untrue. Democrats have had a dozen supermajorities since RvW and done nothing about it. Even now they could do plenty. For one thing, kick Sinema and Manchin (and less vocal anti-choice Democrats) off their committees if they don't facilitate the party's basic platform planks. Demand that the courts be packed until SCOTUS supports human rights. Put a stop to corporate payouts until they get the votes. Attach a human rights amendment to every single bill until it passes.chriss752 wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2022Your vote carries weight.
Joe Biden has already clarified that he, personally, has no interest in doing anything about this. Nancy Pelosi supports anti-choice Democrats against progressive challengers. The Democrats didn't pass laws on abortion rights, gay rights, trans rights, or anything else of worth. They will continue to do nothing, because they have no interest in abortion rights. Protecting the grift train is more important to them than the fundamental rights of Americans to control their own bodies.
You want to make your vote matter, throw Vote Blue No Matter Who in the garbage can where it belongs. Call Nancy Pelosi and tell her you aren't voting for a single Democrat until they legalize human rights. They already have a majority, if they don't support human rights then there's no reason for them to keep it.
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I bet that most people in Kabul also hoped that Pakistan would annex the city as US troops withdrew and the Taliban took over.
At work there is already out of state pressure to cancel two major events that were to take place at the downtown convention center next year.
At work there is already out of state pressure to cancel two major events that were to take place at the downtown convention center next year.
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There needs to be a general strike in this country. Shut everything down for two weeks or however long it takes for the Democrat and Republican Corporate Overlords to demand something be done. Also, the Democrats need to stop putting on some fetishist pretext of 'compromise' and 'being civil'. Screw that. Everyone knows by now that Republicans have no qualms with doing downright despicable things in order to advance the agenda of the vocal minority.
The only other alternative is revolution, since I have little doubt in my mind that the 2022 midterms might well be the last election we ever see in our country.
The only other alternative is revolution, since I have little doubt in my mind that the 2022 midterms might well be the last election we ever see in our country.
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If you understand that the purpose of Democrats is to be controlled opposition and dilute leftist fervor, the fact that their response to RvW consists entirely of "be civil" and "give us money" should be completely understandable and expected.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Jun 26, 2022There needs to be a general strike in this country. Shut everything down for two weeks or however long it takes for the Democrat and Republican Corporate Overlords to demand something be done. Also, the Democrats need to stop putting on some fetishist pretext of 'compromise' and 'being civil'. Screw that. Everyone knows by now that Republicans have no qualms with doing downright despicable things in order to advance the agenda of the vocal minority.
The only other alternative is revolution, since I have little doubt in my mind that the 2022 midterms might well be the last election we ever see in our country.
And it wasn't Republicans sending the troops to rough up protestors in 2014.