Opens Monday.
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The main showroom is brightly lit and looks quite nice from I-64.
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Saw the Mercedes sign off i 64 heading west this morning have to say it blew my mind. Stands out a great deal..
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Watching that sign under construction, I was hoping it was for Hardee's.TheNewSaintLouis wrote:Saw the Mercedes sign off i 64 heading west this morning have to say it blew my mind. Stands out a great deal..
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^^Agree...the Mercedes sign looks great.... However, I was hoping for something more grand... like the Amoco sign.....
Slightly wastefully bright at night. Could use a dimmer switch in there 
Perhaps they do it for a reason. See the cars they are trying to sell and prevent theft..
Looks like they're trying out blue LED's at night.imran wrote:Slightly wastefully bright at night. Could use a dimmer switch in there
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Sales are very slow here, I just learned last night...YIKES
Just looked it up. Looks like August Sales for Mercedes US was up 10% compared to last year. That is good, but lower than most other car manufacturers who are having a blockbuster year.
I guess this will be pitched a rumor since it is a "I heard"....
I guess this will be pitched a rumor since it is a "I heard"....
Sales are up 9% this year. Although Lexus is up 16%, Audi 15%, and BMW 12%.
Robust sales of foreign luxury cars is one reason GM is moving Cadillac's HQ to NYC.
Robust sales of foreign luxury cars is one reason GM is moving Cadillac's HQ to NYC.
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ok ok..had drinks with the GM last night...Owners are riding him hard for more sales.
Don't know why this has a blue font, we were at Robust in Webster.
Don't know why this has a blue font, we were at Robust in Webster.
Not even 60 days in the new spot and they're riding him hard? Damn.sirshankalot wrote:ok ok..had drinks with the GM last night...Owners are riding him hard for more sales.
Even if sales didnt increase there for a year straight, do we really care? It's not like they're going to close. They made a long term investment.
That was kind of my reaction. I hope it ultimately does well, but I don't think they'll be bailing any time soon.stlien wrote:Even if sales didnt increase there for a year straight, do we really care? It's not like they're going to close. They made a long term investment.
And frankly, I HIGHLY doubt a visible and easily accessible location nearer the inner core can be counted as a significant reason for bad sales. Seems like a location would have to be particularly flawed to be the major factor there.
Nice quote from the president of the Mercedes dealership at Hampton and 64 (from the Post article about Ackerman's new building):
Tom Hennekes, the dealership’s president, said Thursday sales and service revenue have grown since the move from Ellisville.
Tom Hennekes, the dealership’s president, said Thursday sales and service revenue have grown since the move from Ellisville.
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^ That's great to hear... assumptions were that it was the opposite. (On the other hand, I hope the city doesn't become car dealership central.)
Is it really that bad? Yes, car dealerships are sprawl enablers that don't bring much revenue to the city for the acres of concrete they cover. But the return of new dealers to the city signals to others this is a place they should be.roger wyoming II wrote:^ That's great to hear... assumptions were that it was the opposite. (On the other hand, I hope the city doesn't become car dealership central.)
Are we really that negative about new car dealers we don't want them opening in the city?
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^ Is that on Olive?
^^ I don't think there is anything wrong with some new car dealerships in the City but I don't want to be overrun with them... especially since we have limited key commercial acreage, at some point we need to have a better economic development plan than auto dealers and QuickTrip!
^^ I don't think there is anything wrong with some new car dealerships in the City but I don't want to be overrun with them... especially since we have limited key commercial acreage, at some point we need to have a better economic development plan than auto dealers and QuickTrip!
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except this isn't a new dealership. it's just moving from Kingshighway, the length of which between Chippewa and Arsenal is a wasteland thanks primarily to car dealerships. a few of them are fine, but auto-centric developments like this (and f*cking Quick Trips) are a big part of why St. Louis is in the shape that it's in.dweebe wrote:Is it really that bad? Yes, car dealerships are sprawl enablers that don't bring much revenue to the city for the acres of concrete they cover. But the return of new dealers to the city signals to others this is a place they should be.
Are we really that negative about new car dealers we don't want them opening in the city?
So what do you want at that MSD spot? Residential? Would you live there?urban_dilettante wrote:except this isn't a new dealership. it's just moving from Kingshighway, the length of which between Chippewa and Arsenal is a wasteland thanks primarily to car dealerships. a few of them are fine, but auto-centric developments like this (and f*cking Quick Trips) are a big part of why St. Louis is in the shape that it's in.dweebe wrote:Is it really that bad? Yes, car dealerships are sprawl enablers that don't bring much revenue to the city for the acres of concrete they cover. But the return of new dealers to the city signals to others this is a place they should be.
Are we really that negative about new car dealers we don't want them opening in the city?
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maybe. depends on the building. there are single family homes directly across the street so people do live there. some people even like to live next to highways for easy access. mixed use developments next to highways aren't uncommon—they're all over the place here in the Denver/Boulder area (to which I just moved for a year or two), for example. and for a mixed-use development with a commercial component, highway adjacency seems like it would be a boon.dweebe wrote:So what do you want at that MSD spot? Residential? Would you live there?
look, all I'm saying is you can't fix St. Louis' blighted stretches by continuing with the development patterns that caused them.